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Posted by: Lightsbane.9012

Lightsbane.9012

So a general rule of warfare is to strike where your opponent is weakest, and for the humans, right now that place is Divinity’s reach. Why would the Centaur ignore this opportunity? Why is there no further content about them?

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Posted by: cptaylor.2670

cptaylor.2670

How is Divinity’s Reach weak right now? If they were going to attack while the city was down, they would have done it back when the plaza became a giant pit.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Yeah, I’m not sure why you’d think DR is weak. The weakest place would have been Fort Salma, but that place was dragon corruption and well… pointless for the centaurs to attack.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

Maybe the centaur caused the collapse…

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Posted by: adormtil.1605

adormtil.1605

Also their kinda well defeated so with what can they attack DR?

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

They think they might find thorns there?

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Posted by: Lightsbane.9012

Lightsbane.9012

i would assume that most of the seraph force is in maguuma.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

Considering we haven’t had any living world content since HoT there was never an update to make the centaurs take advantage of all the Seraph running off to maguuma….

Wait until season 3 releases. The centaurs may very well attack Divinities reach in it.

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Posted by: Donari.5237

Donari.5237

“I hope the Queen held enough of us back to defend DR, if it comes to that,” has felt like a line of foreshadowing to me since I first heard it.

Hang out near the Camp Resolve currency vendor, you’ll hear it. A lot.

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

Did many Seraph, besides Logan, go into the actual jungle?

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Posted by: Zok.4956

Zok.4956

the centaurs and heart of thrones
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Why is there no further content about them?

Maybe because the heart of the thrones could be the heart of Daenerys Targaryen, which is a totally different story.

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Posted by: Halandir.3609

Halandir.3609

Maybe because the heart of the thrones could be the heart of Daenerys Targaryen, which is a totally different story.

Aww come on… You saw the commercial:
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Posted by: Donari.5237

Donari.5237

Did many Seraph, besides Logan, go into the actual jungle?

I don’t think so, but the Camp Resolve soldier’s concern is that a lot of Krytan forces were committed to the Silverwastes and thus DR is less well defended. It’s one of those mushy areas where waypoints and gates are canon but that still doesn’t mean you can move an entire army in an instant.

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Posted by: Lightsbane.9012

Lightsbane.9012

the centaurs and heart of thrones
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Why is there no further content about them?

Maybe because the heart of the thrones could be the heart of Daenerys Targaryen, which is a totally different story.

didn’t even realize i made the typo hahaha

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Posted by: Kossage.9072

Kossage.9072

Based on what we’ve seen so far, the centaurs suffered a major setback when we pushed into their main war camp and slew their War King, Ulgoth, at the end of the Harathi Hinterlands meta event chain.

As the maps are stuck in a certain point in time and more or less follow a specific chronological order (notice the growing team-ups of the three orders as you progress into higher level maps in Central Tyria as well as increasing references to the Pact in later maps, which shows that certain maps take place after others in the timeline) except for some tweaks introduced to certain portions of the maps in Living World seasons (e.g. the marionette wreck in Lornar’s Pass, the remnants of the Tower of Nightmares and the overgrown Fort Salma in Kessex Hills, the recent bandit/ley line events in various maps), the meta event in Harathi Hinterlands would’ve taken place in 1325 AE before the Pact’s invasion of Orr.

Since Ulgoth’s death, years have passed as we’ve been through two Living World seasons as well as the events in Heart of Thorns and the Forsaken Thicket raid. There’s sadly been no detailed information (that I know of) about what’s happened with Central Tyria’s centaurs since then. All we really know is that the centaurs are still a considerable threat to humans as per Queen Jennah’s comments during the World Summit (“Centaurs run right up to our doorstep. Every week, I send letters of condolence to families who have lost loved ones.”). We also know from lore that Ulgoth and his Modniir bullied the Harathi and the Tamini into fighting alongside them in the war against humans, but with the War King now gone thanks to our campaign, perhaps the Harathi and Tamini will eventually rebel against the abusive Modniir while the Modniir commanders are both busy selecting a new War King and trying to keep the shaky alliance with the more reluctant tribes from falling apart.

Hopefully a future storyline in some LW season (or even expansion!) will address the centaur issue and perhaps have us push beyond Harathi Hinterlands into more centaur lands (new map(s)) where we’d actually get to visit centaur civilian camps with children (foals?) and perhaps have us help some Harathi and Tamini rebel cells overthrow the Modniir overlords in exchange for our centaur allies signing a peace treaty with humanity and centaurs being granted rights to settle into Krytan lands similar to how we’ve witnessed the (mostly) peaceful coexistence of charr and humans in present day Ascalon such as the Ebonhawke situation. This could lead to interesting politics as there would no doubt be many ministers (Caudecus and his cronies) and Krytans in general who’d be opposed to “giving in” to the demands of yet another enemy race for the sake of peace, putting even more blame on Jennah and how this act “proves” she’s a weak queen unfit to rule Kryta. Not to mention the Modniir overlords not wanting to give up their power or their glorious war without a fight, so we could see a would-be War King successor rising from their ranks to oppose us and the centaur rebels in the centaur “civil war” and give us a named antagonist to fight against.

I for one would love to get to interact with more peaceful Harathi, Tamini and even Modniir and help make a change while getting to know their centaur culture in depth apart from what little we’ve seen in Personal Story, Central Tyria maps as well as from the more peaceful Maguuma centaurs in Dry Top. Imagine how charr and human PCs could have race-related dialogue changes with the Tyrian centaurs to reflect their race’s stance on the centaur conflict and comparing it to the ongoing Ascalon treaty talks etc. A charr PC’s point of view about ending the conflict and bringing about a peaceful-ish coexistence between two races could be particularly juicy given what’s happened between humans and charr in the past.

(edited by Kossage.9072)

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Posted by: Walhalla.5473

Walhalla.5473

Why is DR weak? DR is a big fortfied City and even with Magic you need to lay Siege on it. Or do it like the Aetherblades and use Airships

And the Centaurs were close in getting to DR at the Beginning of the Personal Story in Sheamor, after that they were being pushed back by the Seraph and us with the Result that the Modniir King Ulgoth, the driving Force of the Centaur War, has been killed. Getting your Leader killed is a MAJOR Setback and can get a Faction destroyed, but since the Queen mentioned Centaurs raiding the Lands it looks like that the Modniir have a new Leader now and they are trying to prolong the War. We don’t know if thats only the Modniir or if they could hold the Centaur Alliance together. We could use some updates here. But it is clear that they aren’t in that favourable Position, they held at the Beginning of GW2, anymore.

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Posted by: Cirian.8917

Cirian.8917

DR might have restocked on clockwork knights by now.

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Posted by: CaptainVanguard.4925

CaptainVanguard.4925

My suspicion is that if we can proove Cadecus is infact working with the bandits/mantle (assuming he isnt a neutral party and is genuinley not involved by some unlikely miracle) then its possible Cadecus would convince the ministry to join team mantle.

This is my thesis:

By the half-season finale of Season 3, the gates of DR will open from “inside” as the Ministry betrays the Seraph, and by doing so, the Bandits will charge in and slaughter hundreds of people in DR, and the Centaur will also be involved in the chaos too.

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Posted by: Lightsbane.9012

Lightsbane.9012

it was my understanding that the white mantle were using the Centaur as a proxy force to wage war against the crown of Kryta (and subsequently its people), and now that we know the mantle is alive and well..

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