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Posted by: SlingDash.2350

SlingDash.2350

Hi all,

I’m on 95% map completion now, and have been told I have to enter WvW and do all those maps to get 100%. I’ve only ever happily played PvE for the past year or so, and I’ve absolutely no idea what I’m doing in WvW or PvP, which is probably why I keep getting killed within a few seconds of arrival.

I presumed that respawn ‘spawned’ you where you were killed, but it apparently spawns you back where you started, so it’s becoming a real pain to run to every POI or Vista that I need every time I die, because the Waypoints are so far apart – or contended or whatever it is. Is there another way to travel to more remote areas you need to get to instead of using Waypoints? No idea what all the icons are on the map.

I’ve done one Battlegrounds map (somehow!), but how on earth are you supposed to get the one that is occupied by ‘enemy’ players? Presumably I need to join a guild or group, because some of the skill challenges are impossible when you’re alone, and even the supposedly friendly maps are full of enemy players who inevitably kill me whenever I’m right near a POI or Vista that I need.

I was really loving my time in GW2, but having to kill other players and going to WvW, when I had no intention of ever doing either, is a real pain. If I can’t find a way to finish my map, I don’t see any point in continuing to play, unfortunately, because it’s just frustrating me now. I think ArenaNet should change the way you can get 100% map, because not everybody enjoys killing other players in PvP or WvW, and forcing this upon people who just want to get 100% map, whilst enjoying their adventures in PvE, is very unfair.

Has anybody else finished the main world map and only needs to do WvW maps to get 100%? I’d be more than happy to play along with you.

Having only ever played PvE on my own, I’ve no idea how any of the WvW, friends, guilds, chat or group things work, but feel free to email/message me in-game if you want to team up.

Many thanks.

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

Ok, I’m going to try and cover all your points, I’ll try and put it into a clear order but I apologise in advance for the long post.

Firstly there is no such thing as a completely friendly map in WvW. Each server has a home base on every map, and can take control of areas. The ‘friendly’ map is simply one where your server starts in the middle, which gives them a tactical advantage.

You can see what your server controls by looking at what colour they are (on the first page of the WvW menu) and then looking for any icon that’s the same colour. This isn’t fixed, it’s constantly changing as servers take over objectives. Sometimes a server can take over an entire enemy borderland (except the central citadel and the 3rd servers camp, which aren’t needed for map completion).

Also even if you’re in enemy territory it doesn’t necessarily mean you will be killed. You’ll have a harder time navigating because you can’t get through doors without breaking them down, but unless you run into guards (NPCs, about as easy to kill as vets in PvE) or other players you’re fine. You will be killed sooner or later, but waypoints are free and repairs are free too so having to run back to where you were is the worst of it.

The most important thing to be aware of is that unlike PvE you shouldn’t expect to be able to do the entire map in one go, or even necessarily map complete an entire area, it’s more a matter of doing what you can when you can.

Anything that’s in your colour should be safe and therefore easy to get. To get enemy areas you have two options:
1) check regularly and wait for your server to claim them (or to change colour, which happens on Fridays). Also try at different times of the day as it can make a difference.
2) Join in with the zerg (look for a commaner tag) and follow them as they take objectives. You don’t necessarily have to fight (although there’s no reason not to) but even if the attack fails you may have time while the doors are broken open to get into an enemy keep or tower and do map completion.

You don’t need to join a WvW guild, or even have friends who do WvW to participate (although it would help if someone can show you around). Just look for the commander tag and follow them.

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Posted by: NL Dennis.9048

NL Dennis.9048

Hello SlingDash,

It is true that trying to explore WvW maps as a solo player can become extremely tedious. How I completed mine was running with the main zerg or blob, depends on how you would like to call them, when they are raiding the Enemy Borderlands. Then break off every now and then to capture the vista’s in enemy fortresses when your blob captures them.

This of course is also relying on your current match up. If your server is up against stronger opponents in WvW and your server can’t capture a lot of their Home Borderlands, you will have to wait and hope for an ‘easier’ match-up the next week.

Furthermore, if you are looking for players to tag along with you, please keep in mind you will need to state the server you are playing on, as WvW maps are server-specific. Please do not get your hopes up if you only have a small inexperienced group to capture Garrisons tho. Towers/Keeps shouldn’t be too hard to do, but you will find Home Borderlands Garrisons to usually be well-guarded and sieged, so you will need a decent zerg/blob to capture those.

Go out there and avoid those pesky Thief roamers!

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Posted by: SlingDash.2350

SlingDash.2350

Thanks very much for the replies. Forgive me, but what’s a Zerg and a Blob? I honestly haven’t a clue about any terminology or anything to do with playing with other people in servers or whatever, as I’ve only played PvE on my own since I got the game. I have so much to learn!

I think I’m just going to have to run through and get what I can when I can. I’m so close to 100% map now, but am not confident i’ll be able to get the final 5%, because so far it has been a nightmare.

I did join a guild, but just didn’t have a clue what was going on, so thought it best to leave and not make a fool of myself or the guild by having their name above my head!

Thanks again for taking the time to help. Much appreciated.

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Posted by: AdaephonDelat.3890

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Zerg/Blob = a large group of players usually following a commander tag (in WvW anyway). If you’re having difficulty getting things in WvW find a commander tag and follow it.

Also what class are you playing? For WvW it’s advisable you change your gear and traits as different things are more effective/useful in WvW than PvE.

With regards to the guild try joining a friendly/helpful guild and don’t be afraid to ask questions. What region/server are you on?

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Posted by: Brother Grimm.5176

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Yeah, mapping the WvW maps is better done as a long term goal WHILE you are doing all the other mapping. Those maps being your final requirements is going to be quite frustrating for a PvE only player.

For my own part, I do VERY little WvW but do know some of the mechanics and have played enough to know when to attempt mapping and when to just move on and do something else.

Here are a few suggestions:

  1. Map into Eternal Battlegrounds on a regular basis and if you see your server has control of Stonemist (the big castle in the middle)….RUN for it and map everything you can while you can.
  2. Per above, it is easiest to map your own color Borderland. Colors CAN change every Friday at Server reset….that does not mean your server WILL get a new color Borderland but you need to check and see every week.
  3. When your server color changes, also map what you can of Eternal Battlegrounds for that color (and possibly more).
  4. It is easier to solo map at off server peak hours. Note that this depends on how good the enemy servers are at 24/7 coverage.
  5. It is easier to map with a large group, but getting them to go where you need is far from easy.
  6. Finding some guildies or friends to roam in a small group (say 3 to 10) is MUCH more likely to yield good results that trying to solo roam WvW.

I’ve mapped it solo twice by myself and play very little WvW so it CAN be done. Don’t get overly discouraged and realize that complaining about being “forced” to enter WvW to obtain a mostly PvE title is not going to change anything….just do it. Also, keep in mind that players that mostly do WvW or PvP are “forced” to do a MUCH larger portion of PvE to obtain the same.

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Posted by: SlingDash.2350

SlingDash.2350

Thanks very much guys (and girls?). I’m on 96% ‘normal’ map at the mo, so just need to get the last few maps in WvW.

I’m in the UK and on Arborstone (FR) server – whatever that means! I honestly haven’t a clue!

I don’t know what a “commander tag” is, or how to follow it, or change my traits (to what?), but I’m playing a level 80 Hunter. Advice on changes/upgrades more than welcome.

There must be somebody who needs to do the same as me here, surely? Please send me a message in-game (if you can? Do I need to provide any contact info for that?), and I’d like to join a guild who’d be happy for a clueless WvW ‘noob’ to tag along with them.

Thanks again for taking the time to help – very much appreciated.

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Posted by: Melanie.1240

Melanie.1240

Thanks very much guys (and girls?). I’m on 96% ‘normal’ map at the mo, so just need to get the last few maps in WvW.

I’m in the UK and on Arborstone (FR) server – whatever that means! I honestly haven’t a clue!

I don’t know what a “commander tag” is, or how to follow it, or change my traits (to what?), but I’m playing a level 80 Hunter. Advice on changes/upgrades more than welcome.

There must be somebody who needs to do the same as me here, surely? Please send me a message in-game (if you can? Do I need to provide any contact info for that?), and I’d like to join a guild who’d be happy for a clueless WvW ‘noob’ to tag along with them.

Thanks again for taking the time to help – very much appreciated.

FR means that you’re on a French speaking server, I hope you’re bilangual or you’re going to have a hard time and may want to switch.

As a hunter (thief I assume?) you have a lot of access to stealth, so make sure to use it wisely. It can save your butt. There are probably even traits to increase your stealth time, those may come in handy. Do you know what traits are? Press H, then go to the second tab and click Traits. There you’ll see rows where you can put points into to unlock traits. Traits are basically effects that are added to skills. I don’t have a thief but for example, elementalist has a trait that gives you a heal when you dodge. Or a trait that gives you might when you use Cantrip utility skill. Furthermore, you may want skills that give you a lot of mobility so you can get through the map fast and flee when needed.

A commander is someone who has bought a commander tag and has “tagged up”, aka visibily showing the commander tag. You can see the tag (it is red, yellow, purple, red or blue and has the shape of a dorito/triangle) above the player’s head and on the map. Usually a commander is followed by a group of players who follow the commander’s instructions to work together and reach a certain goal. In WvW they’re usually after concuering a tower or castle or something like that.

You can only WvW with people on the same server as you, meaning you can only play with the Frenchies.

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Posted by: AdaephonDelat.3890

AdaephonDelat.3890

Arborstone is a French language server – that’s what the FR means. I’m on Aurora Glade and we sometimes play them in WvW so in theory I could help then but it would be weird (as we’re supposed to be enemies!)

A commander tag is the Blue/Yellow/Red/Purple upsides down triangle you sometimes see on the maps. When you get close to the player displaying it you will see it above their head in front of you. Run to one on the map and then just follow it around doing what they say.

Check the Ranger sub-forum for a WvW build. I’m not sure what’s best option for WvW builds for Rangers. I’m guessing something like Shared Anguish would be a good idea but they’d be able to provide better information build wise.

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Posted by: AdaephonDelat.3890

AdaephonDelat.3890

Thanks very much guys (and girls?). I’m on 96% ‘normal’ map at the mo, so just need to get the last few maps in WvW.

I’m in the UK and on Arborstone (FR) server – whatever that means! I honestly haven’t a clue!

I don’t know what a “commander tag” is, or how to follow it, or change my traits (to what?), but I’m playing a level 80 Hunter. Advice on changes/upgrades more than welcome.

There must be somebody who needs to do the same as me here, surely? Please send me a message in-game (if you can? Do I need to provide any contact info for that?), and I’d like to join a guild who’d be happy for a clueless WvW ‘noob’ to tag along with them.

Thanks again for taking the time to help – very much appreciated.

FR means that you’re on a French speaking server, I hope you’re bilangual or you’re going to have a hard time and may want to switch.

You can only WvW with people on the same server as you, meaning you can only play with the Frenchies.

Also if you’re going to take Melanie’s advice and move I’d recommend our server Aurora Glade. We’re awesome :-P

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Posted by: Sagramor.7395

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Purely for getting around the map as fast as possible I’d equip Signet of the Hunt, Lightning Reflexes, Greatsword and Sword. Sword offhand is up to you. Also trait for Soften the Fall and Martial Mastery. Should have enough Evades and mobility to stay out of trouble. Only thing that you have no control over is getting in towers and keeps you don’t control. Borderlands change weekly (although on occasion you may not change) and if you have the patience you should be able to get all of Eternal Battlegrounds given enough time.

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You should be able to get in 2 leaps per swap.

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Posted by: Gobble D Goop.4081

Gobble D Goop.4081

i think most of it is covered, but here it is:

Guide for WvW map completion

Method 1: (only for active servers)
actively follow the commander around the map as they take things

Method 2: (any server)
transfer to an active server and follow method 1

Method 3: (most popular method for lower tier servers)
Run to objectives on reset night to get exploration quickly (before your server loses things). WvW matchup resets 1 hour and ~5 minutes after the daily reset on Friday night (currently 5:05 PM PST)
When the matchup resets, your server has a claim over all the keeps and towers in their Borderland and the keep and 4 towers for your corner in Eternal Battlegrounds.

When reset occurs go to your BL and run like crazy (bring swiftness!) to the 2 souternmost keeps (Bay and Hills) get all the POIs and vistas there. Then move north from them visiting towers, camps, and the garrison. You should have the 3 keeps and all the towers and camps north of Bay/Hills (dont worry if it takes more than 1 week). If your server still has stuff in EB, then go there and pick up your keep, 4 towers and the 2 camps on your side (will likely need more than one week for this and BL). to get the stuff in the south, you have to wait until your color is NOT the same as the BL (go to BLs that are “not your server name borderlands”)(unless you are really fast and can get to that southernmost tower before the enemy gets it). You will need 4 friends. You can activate the commander NPC (seigerazor/siegecrusher) if he is there. He will help you take the tower closest to your spawn. You can also take the 2 camps nearest to your spawn and get the south skill point/vistas.

Stonemist Castle will probably be your biggest issue if your world never takes it. The best way i can see to do it is to follow an enemy zerg into it (be careful they will see you as an easy target). Stealth is your best friend (if youre a mes or thief just equip your stealths and carefully fun around the perimiter picking up the POIs, otherwise bring a freind who can stealth you). You have to follow your enemy through the inner gate as well in order to get the skill point (this should be done after most of them leave).

Tips:
*Be patient, this is a PvP map and it might take some time to do if your server has 0 presence
*Always avoid enemies when you can. Anyone that sees you will tell their 50 “freinds” in map chat and generally try to engage you
*Stealth, speed boosts, and even invulnerability skills are very helpful
*non-peak times can also be helpful if you are against servers where people actually get some sleep

Good Luck with your exploration

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Posted by: SlingDash.2350

SlingDash.2350

I’m playing a hunter/ranger with longbow and greatsword – not a thief.

Somebody in-game mentioned this French server thing once, but as far as I remember, when I got the game I just clicked everything it told me to and I think it just recommended that server, so I went along with it. I can’t see anything anywhere about UK servers – just general ‘EU’ servers. Presumably I was automatically assigned to one of these when setting the game up? If I did have an option, then it wasn’t clear. You have to pay stupid money to transfer servers, don’t you? I’d happily do that, because I don’t care what server I’m on, but not paying out loads of money just to transfer. Having said that, do you think it’d be advantageous to do so? Would I find more UK players to team up with?

Things I know how to do, and what I’ve done:

I’ve equipped speed sigils (is that what they’re called? The stone things?) on my weapons, and a few random others on armour etc. I’ve s**t loads in my bank, but not too sure what they do or which are the best to use – it’s all so complex! Loathed to destroy or sell them in case they’re useful to my four alts, so would like to keep them.

Traits: I’ve chosen things that appeal to my play style. Probably not got an optimum build, but happy with it at the mo and don’t really wnat to start all over again and learn new skills, as I’ve tried Warhorns and swords/daggers and they just don’t feel right. Probably not a good build for WvW, but who knows – will check the build topics for that.

I managed to grab a couple of POIs last night, but got killed time and time again when venturing further. I suppose it’s like you say – just run quickly and grab what I can when I can.

Not sure about these:

What’s a ‘BL’, please?
What’s this ‘Reset’ thing and how do I know when it’s going to happen and how it will affect things?
How do I know where enemy players are? Green dots are friendly, I know, but can you show enemies on map with an option?
I know you can get through blue shimmering doors, and red are obviously locked enemy doors, but what about green? Couldn’t get in those last night. If you have to break the doors down, how do you do that? I’m doing no damage with any weapon or skill that I use, but even if I could, I’d surely have to be with a group to get anywhere in the castle I’ve entered to grab the POI or Vista?

Many thanks again for all the time and help you’ve all offered – much appreciated.

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Posted by: AdaephonDelat.3890

AdaephonDelat.3890

Somebody in-game mentioned this French server thing once, but as far as I remember, when I got the game I just clicked everything it told me to and I think it just recommended that server, so I went along with it. I can’t see anything anywhere about UK servers – just general ‘EU’ servers. Presumably I was automatically assigned to one of these when setting the game up? If I did have an option, then it wasn’t clear. You have to pay stupid money to transfer servers, don’t you? I’d happily do that, because I don’t care what server I’m on, but not paying out loads of money just to transfer. Having said that, do you think it’d be advantageous to do so? Would I find more UK players to team up with?

Right there are language specific servers (like yours which is French Language) and EU servers with no official language but generally accepted that it’s English language. If you chose Arborstone (FR) then that means your home server is a French Language server. In PvE due to the megaserver you will get mixed in with lots of different players from different servers but the likelihood you end up with French speaking players is increased.

You will find lots more UK players to team up with if you transfer to an EU server, so in the end it’s up to you.

Not sure about these:

What’s a ‘BL’, please?
What’s this ‘Reset’ thing and how do I know when it’s going to happen and how it will affect things?
How do I know where enemy players are? Green dots are friendly, I know, but can you show enemies on map with an option?
I know you can get through blue shimmering doors, and red are obviously locked enemy doors, but what about green? Couldn’t get in those last night. If you have to break the doors down, how do you do that? I’m doing no damage with any weapon or skill that I use, but even if I could, I’d surely have to be with a group to get anywhere in the castle I’ve entered to grab the POI or Vista?

Many thanks again for all the time and help you’ve all offered – much appreciated.

BL = Borderland. WvW is split into 4 maps. Green Borderland, Red Borderland, Blue Borderland and Eternal Battlegrounds.

Reset is when the new matchups are announced. It occurs at 6pm UTC (I believe) on a Friday night. It determines which servers you will be playing against that week and which colour you will be that week.

Enemy players do not show up on the map. It’s best to keep your eyes open and stay away from roads/paths.

Breaking down doors is done with siege weaponry like flame rams – http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Flame_Ram

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Posted by: Gobble D Goop.4081

Gobble D Goop.4081

You can go through doors that match your color in wvw. The blue doors that you can go through at the moment might not let you through after reset happens since your server might not be blue again.

i checked the wiki and Euro servers reset at 1800 UTC on saturday i think (my guide has the NA reset time so you can disregard that). This page about wvw on the wiki might help you somewhat:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World_versus_World

There are also links to other pages with more details if you want to read them too.

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