Guild Wars 2

Tl/dr is located at the bottom, but I encourage you to read this.

So I’m a level 80 necro. Pretty tired of farming CoF and was looking to get into some structured pvp.

I’ve mostly been doing PvE with some wvw on the side. Right now I’m a conditionmancer spec, currently have a end-game gear set consisting of condition damage-precision-pwr, with full 30/30 in power/condition traits using scepter/dagger and staff. It seems like decent damage, hell, it’s not that bad at all in wvw in zerg groups, but I know that this would be dominated in s-pvp.

So right now I’m 30/30 pwr/condition spec, with scepter/dagger and staff, with pwr-prec-cond gear. I’m not even sure if this is the correct gear for this build lol.

At this point I still haven’t decided if this is actually the best or not in terms of overall dps either, and am wondering if there’s something else I could be doing for more overall damage in PvE. Since necro’s don’t really hit that hard even with axe or staff, I’m not sure if getting %crit damage gear would benefit the class at all like it does a thief so I would like to hear anyone else’s thoughts on this that play a necromancer in PvE.

I’m also sort of confused on what to do for PvP. Obviously you would need toughness or vitality traits for pvp. I’m just kind of confused on what the “best” build is for this category and play style.

Is it axe/horn with dagger/dagger? The staff seems really useless, since it’s base attack is mediocre even compared to a scepter, and the marks are kinda meh all around to be honest. Also not sure what traits you get for pvp. Do you go vita/pwr? or vita/tough?

Also, what gear do you use if you go axe/horn with dag/dag in pvp? PwR would make each hit harder, so I’m guessing pwr but what would the other stats be? +healing? Or vit/tough ? No clue.. because +healing benefits dag/dag and life leach right? Just really confusing.

I was also watching a toughness necro with max minions in structure pvp which looked rather good in the video, considering you get toughness from more minions and they can also leech life to you and whatnot and have some decent abilities however I heard if you get turned into an animal by that guardian or mesmer or whatever that ability is, that it basically removes all your pets or something like that which pretty much shuts that build down completely, so yeah, that would be lame and a waste of time lol.

So yeah I’m just really confused right now on what to do. I’m not even sure if I have the proper gear for conditionmancer in PvE. The class is just really confusing to play. It seems that if you go fully into something, you are still hindered in some way badly.

Necromancer almost seems like a fish caught out of water if you get my drift. The traits and things you can go into only “sort of” make sense for whatever you want to go into, meaning you don’t fully get the benefits out of the traits no matter which weapon selection you choose to play with, or which gear you decide to go with it. At least that’s what I’ve been able to get out of this, which is why I’m so confused here.

Basically I just want to know what the best possible PvE build and gear is for a necro, and what the best possible PvP build and gear is for a necro.

I thought I had the PvE gear and build down, but I’m not so sure. As for the best pvp build/gear for necro, well I just don’t know.

I just want some confidence going into pvp with an idea of what I want to accomplish in terms of build/gear so I don’t waste a considerable amount of time doing it, by going in clueless.

Help would be appreciated.

TD/DR:
What is the best possible PvE build/gear for Necromancer?
What is the best possible PvP build/gear for Necromancer?

If you at least “think” you know, that would at least help me look at this at a different angle, cuz right now I’m thinking about just rolling thief to simplify all my problems…

Ok. first picture is my gear statistics for pve so you can see that.
2nd picture is my solo traits/skills I use when soloing.
3rd picture is my group traits/skills I use when grouping.

These screenshots are PvE related of course so you can give me any tips or suggestions. No idea what I’m gonna do for pvp at all, which is my biggest concern at the moment.

Conditions blow.

Focus on power/precision and crit with enough toughness to taste for pvp, the damage will be significantly higher and you will also do good damage in death shroud and blazing damage in lich form.

Conditions just do not scale very well, bleeds only take 5% of condition damage stat and poison 10% and people can remove them before they do remotely close to their full damage.

I personally like the spectral utilities and focus on traits which boost life blast, extend duration of spectral abilities and lower cooldown. Axe is your best weapon for direct damage. You can stack on a mountain of vulnerability on an opponent which really boosts your damage.

Hm yeah, I knew axe was the best in terms of raw damage (other than condition dmg), for necro at least.

But what about the gear for pvp with this? What are the exact traits and gear for axe build ?

what is the exact gear build and trait build for axe with necro ?

? still looking for more information about axe pvp necro.

still no takers? Should I just reroll at this point lol … ?

Hey there, I have been using for testing – reviewing and trials,

http://www.guildwars2hub.com/structured-pvp/necro-builds-pvp

It has helped a bit in my own processes, but I have found in PVP play what your comfortable and known tactics. It’s not about pure damage but control for necro’s running your cd’s at optimum timing. Most Necros I have read are using multiple trait builds with varying weapons, favourite combo for condimancers is scepter dagger switch to staff. But I have been enjoying Axe Dagger and Dagger Dagger combinations. Will have a look at what build currently using and post.

Another Site : http://www.necrobator.com/

Basic build suggestion using axe – sigil requirements.

http://www.necrobator.com/features/necros-in-structured-pvp-starting-build-and-gear-overview/

Rygyr.5309:

Basic build suggestion using axe – sigil requirements.

http://www.necrobator.com/features/necros-in-structured-pvp-starting-build-and-gear-overview/

that website is a good 5 months behind according to these article dates on the site. All that websites information came from the beta, and most of what was in the beta was changed with the final release of the game.

They don’t even list skills correctly on that website.

I’d like a better source rather than this.

The main thing I’m confused on at the moment is if I want %crit damage gear, or if I want +healing gear for dag/dag. That’s one of the main things I am confused about regarding a axe/horn dag/dag setup. If you don’t want +healing gear, then is the dag-dag setup even useful? Also if you don’t want +healing gear with axe build with, that makes a lot of the blood traits seem near pointless.

To me, it seems that necromancer isn’t capable to out damage anybody and also it seems we’re atm at the bottom of the ladder with elementals. But there is one build which has worked pretty good for me, basically you just outlast ppl. 10 points to death magic and rest to blood magic and soul reaping. You want to put optional points to improved wells and so that your death shroud bar fills up fast.

Now this build mainly works in tight spaces and if the enemy just goes out of the well area, you are screwed, but atm it seems that warriors and thieves are so used to get ppl down fast, that they stay in the area. Also wells work on the node of course. But if enemy blows all of his cooldowns on me and he sees that his losing, there’s no way to catch him, if he decides to run.

Other than that, I saw spectral specced necromancer video, which did pretty good (or he handpicked bad players to the video) tried out myself, and well, didn’t work for me.

btw I use axe/whatevah (usually dagger)

yeah I just tried structured pvp. I felt completely worthless. I did axe/horn with dag/dag. i also tried the toughness minion build, with vita-tough gear and vita-tough traits.

They seriously need to start balancing these classes because right now necromancer is useless lol. I don’t even feel like I do good enough damage in pve compared to other classes at the moment.

ugh, I’m putting this game on the shelf for a while. I don’t feel like I should be forced to make an alt because my class sucks compared to others. They need to serious buff the necromancer… or at least make their traits make some ounce of sense for our abilities.

“outlasting” people in pvp… so run around and do nothing? Wouldn’t a warrior be better since they can do the same thing with insane dps? lol… why do I always roll the most broken class in the game for mmos ?

I was only using the websites as a basic reference while running through my own trials.
I have been using Axe, Dagger with Well Build. Rotating through my wells for 3 sec protection procs. as well as life regen.

http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#MzVzzm0MoxhMMmTbnMf0px0VmRMRb

Using Dark Path to tele to range. I do feel a little underpowered if i dont manage my wells. Works really well when i have a Guardian or Warrior right beside me.

+healing gear would be very effective with this build.

Shelledfade.6435:

yeah I just tried structured pvp. I felt completely worthless. I did axe/horn with dag/dag. i also tried the toughness minion build, with vita-tough gear and vita-tough traits.

They seriously need to start balancing these classes because right now necromancer is useless lol. I don’t even feel like I do good enough damage in pve compared to other classes at the moment.

ugh, I’m putting this game on the shelf for a while. I don’t feel like I should be forced to make an alt because my class sucks compared to others. They need to serious buff the necromancer… or at least make their traits make some ounce of sense for our abilities.

“outlasting” people in pvp… so run around and do nothing? Wouldn’t a warrior be better since they can do the same thing with insane dps? lol… why do I always roll the most broken class in the game for mmos ?

Lol! Stop sucking and learn your class maybe?….. Just because you don’t Nuke people down in 5 seconds doesn’t mean that the class sucks. I tear people apart and I’m really not that great. I last a pretty good amount of time, necros have pretty much 3 health bars and I love it. I can pretty much take anyone down 1v1 and in some cases 1v2. You just gotta know what you’re doing.