Are keyboard macros legal in GW2? (Razor)

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Posted by: Arccai.4870

Arccai.4870

Hello!

I recently started with a Herald Zerker, running Shiro/Glint.
And the combination requires me to tap about 5 buttons at the same time at one point which is fine, but would be much less of a hassle by doing so with 1 click.

And i love the game, so i really wanna avoid getting banned.
So my question here would be, is it legal to use a Razor keyboard which have macro features? allowing you to bind multiple buttons with 1 click.

I mean it’s a gaming keyboard, but if i understand it correctly, the macros are created with a program that comes with the keyboard, and a third program is kinda what worrying me.

So if anyone has an answer , or should i ask through a ticket?

Thank you.

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Posted by: Turamarth.3248

Turamarth.3248

Not legal.
General rule is that one click equals one action.
They are being lenient regarding macros that give no advantages for example music instruments.
All other macros are strictly forbidden regardless of how you create them.

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Posted by: Arccai.4870

Arccai.4870

Thanks for info, should probably ask the devs just in case tho.

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Posted by: Belzebu.3912

Belzebu.3912

No need to ask a dev, they gave the answer already:
Policy: 3rd-Party Programs; Multi-Boxing; Macros

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Posted by: Solid Gold.9310

Solid Gold.9310

Thanks for info, should probably ask the devs just in case tho.

You don’t need to, it’s illegal.

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Posted by: Klangy.8293

Klangy.8293

May i ask for what reason? I play rev myself.

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Posted by: Kiza.5630

Kiza.5630

One interesting question would be: I also have a gaming keyboard that comes with programmable keys and a background software. I use it to enable volume down/up keys on the keyboard. The same software also allows creating macros.

If they just check for the existence of certain background tasks that would be a bit extreme as some keyboards need that running in order to fully function.

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Posted by: Kraggy.4169

Kraggy.4169

May i ask for what reason? I play rev myself.

Read that Anet post in that link, part of it says:

“The best way for a player to kitten whether a specific third-party program could have any impact on another player or a PvP opponent is to ask:

“Does this program allow someone to play faster, better, longer, or more accurately than someone who doesn’t use it?”
“Does this program allow someone to ‘play’ when he/she is not at the computer?”
“Does this program allow the user to gain undeserved rewards?”

If the answer to any of these questions is “yes”—or even “maybe”—then we strongly recommend that you do not use the program because to do so may place your Guild Wars or Guild Wars 2 account in jeopardy."

Pretty good overview of why this type of thing isn’t allowed.

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LOL at the asinine filter, that ‘kitten’ was used on the word: ay-s-s-e-s-s

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Posted by: Misguided.5139

Misguided.5139

Yeah, a single macro that activated all the facets would be a no-go.

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Posted by: Meneh.2954

Meneh.2954

I’m wondering if that is correct and what GW2 is picking up.
In the Razor GUI you can build e.g. Mouse 5 to “press” 1,2,3 with e.g. 1 second intervals.

I would suspect that GW2 only picks up the information that 1-2-3 are pressed in this case, and it won’t notice any difference whether it comes from a macro or you actually physically press 1-2-3.

So it’s not one macro that enable all facets, it’s 1 macro which click 1-2-3 and therein lies the difference.

All games are against macros, 3rd party enhancement programs etc, however I have yet to ever meet someone that was banned from using the Razor macro tool in any game.

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Posted by: Belzebu.3912

Belzebu.3912

You can try your luck, I agree that it is almost impossible for Anet find out that you are using a macro from your gaming Keyboard or Mouse since from the server side both are identical, BUT if for some reason Anet discovers that, you’ll be banned and you won’t be able to complain at all.
So it is a matter of risk/reward balance.

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Posted by: Moondancer.3874

Moondancer.3874

What about for people with disabilities is this still illegal?

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Posted by: Belzebu.3912

Belzebu.3912

What about for people with disabilities is this still illegal?

I’m pretty sure it would still be illegal.
What can be done is 1 button do different commands every time it is pressed, in that case it would be a macro, but only executing 1 command per click/press.

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

I’m wondering if that is correct and what GW2 is picking up.
In the Razor GUI you can build e.g. Mouse 5 to “press” 1,2,3 with e.g. 1 second intervals.

I would suspect that GW2 only picks up the information that 1-2-3 are pressed in this case, and it won’t notice any difference whether it comes from a macro or you actually physically press 1-2-3.

So it’s not one macro that enable all facets, it’s 1 macro which click 1-2-3 and therein lies the difference.

All games are against macros, 3rd party enhancement programs etc, however I have yet to ever meet someone that was banned from using the Razor macro tool in any game.

People have definitely been banned from GW2 for it, because then they come to this forum or another one (or get a “friend” to do it for them) to complain about how it’s completely unfair and they had no idea because they didn’t read the ToS when they accepted it.

It’s actually a fairly easy thing to pick up if you have access to all the data. A person trying to push the same keys at the same interval will be imperfect. Sometimes the interval will be 1.3 second, sometimes 0.8, sometime they might miss one completely, or stop part-way through.

Whereas a computer program will always, always push the same keys in the same order with exactly the same interval.

So if you can see the order of key presses and the intervals it’s pretty easy to tell the two apart. You can even get another computer program to do it for you.

Software is fine, a lot of people use programmable mice and keyboards, but the rule (from dev posts in previous, identical threads) is 1 button press = 1 action in game. Any more than that and it’s a bannable offense.

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Posted by: Klangy.8293

Klangy.8293

Yeah, a single macro that activated all the facets would be a no-go.

Huh? When will u possible want all activated at The same time? I guess OP is new to to game or just facesmash keyboard. And want to have a macro to use all keybind åt once.

First of all it’s stupid idea. NEVER use all your cds st once. Learn your rotations (pve) and be careful with important cds (pvp)

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Posted by: Misguided.5139

Misguided.5139

Yeah, a single macro that activated all the facets would be a no-go.

Huh? When will u possible want all activated at The same time? I guess OP is new to to game or just facesmash keyboard. And want to have a macro to use all keybind åt once.

First of all it’s stupid idea. NEVER use all your cds st once. Learn your rotations (pve) and be careful with important cds (pvp)

You might make an effort to understand the profession before telling other people how to play it. First off, activating the facets doesn’t trigger any cooldowns. Second, one of the popular skill rotations with Shiro/Glint is to activate all Glint facets to purposely run out of energy (thus deactivating all facets including Facet of Nature) before invoking Shiro).