Guild Wars 2

I’m in the consideration phase of switching to condi druid, and while I have quite a bit of gear that I can forge-swap, I would need to make a shortbow. Yassith’s is one of those second-gen, super-ultra-expensive prefixes; my understanding is it’s cheaper to make a basic ascended weapon, like Zojja’s, and then swap it in the Mystic Forge. Is this correct? If yes, what is the cheapest prefix to make before swapping away?

Sister Saxifrage.7361:

Yassith’s is one of those second-gen, super-ultra-expensive prefixes; my understanding is it’s cheaper to make a basic ascended weapon, like Zojja’s, and then swap it in the Mystic Forge. Is this correct? If yes, what is the cheapest prefix to make before swapping away?

Viper’s is actually cheaper than Berserker’s.

Powerful blood and black diamonds are around the same price but you need 5 blood versus 5 diamonds.

The main issue with the HoT stats is fulgurite which requires obsidian, airship oil, auric dust and leyline sparks. Those items used to be a pain to obtain prior to the patch April of last year. There is also the crazy prices for things like freshwater pearls and maguuma lilies for minstrel and trailblazer.

Oh, okay! I figured it would be proportionate to the gap between, say, exotic berserker’s and exotic viper’s, the latter of which calls for those oiled components instead of the regular ones and so on.

Actually, the total cost depend on the crafter. Here’s the rule of thumb I use:

1. If you know the recipe already, craft the items you want directly.
2. If you don’t know the recipe already and intend to craft more than one (someday), get the recipe (which takes you to rule 1).
3. If you don’t know the recipe and doubt you’ll craft more than one, use a recipe you do know and convert in the forge.
4. This goes for HoT and Core stats both, unless you run short on fulgurite (needed to created jeweled patches & dowels). In that case, it’s cheaper to convert (you can buy on the TP, but the premium is steep compared to conversion).

The reason is that the recipes cost a few gold plus other currency; that tends to matter a lot when you’re making a full set. That said, the difference between one method or another is often just a few percent; ascended gear costs 70-100g depending on the piece and the saving is maybe 3-8g per piece.

Two other exceptions:

• It’s roughly the same price to make Caladbolg versions of dagger, GS, sword, and shield and you can choose any stat for those. Scepter is slightly more costly and probably worth scavenging, too.
• The costs for using fractal or PvP currency are currently comparable if you’re purchasing on the TP. However, it can be easier for you if you have an excess of T5 mats; traditional crafting uses more mid-tier (and more T6) mats.

make a grizzlemouth’s version and then stat swap.

felincyriac.5981:

make a grizzlemouth’s version and then stat swap.

That’s not cheaper unless you already know the grizzlemouth recipes.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

felincyriac.5981:

make a grizzlemouth’s version and then stat swap.

That’s not cheaper unless you already know the grizzlemouth recipes.

it’s just 3 gold and 5 laurels to learn the recipe, around 60 gold to make the weapon (less if you make the daily mats, i bought most of the mats and it cost me 60 gold for Grizzlemouth + stat swap). It is cheaper by a few gold to make the yassith’s one directly if you have the fulgrite and the inscription learned via auric basic merchant.

felincyriac.5981:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

felincyriac.5981:

make a grizzlemouth’s version and then stat swap.

That’s not cheaper unless you already know the grizzlemouth recipes.

it’s just 3 gold and 5 laurels to learn the recipe, around 60 gold to make the weapon (less if you make the daily mats, i bought most of the mats and it cost me 60 gold for Grizzlemouth + stat swap). It is cheaper by a few gold to make the yassith’s one directly if you have the fulgrite and the inscription learned via auric basic merchant.

First, you advise people to make Grizzlemouth and stat swap; now you’re saying it’s cheaper to make Yassith’s directly, if you have a certain recipe.

My point is that it’s not ‘cheaper’ to start with Grizzlemouth if you have to buy the recipes — as you point out, those cost 3g and 5 laurels (which are worth a total of ~3g today and often more than 5g); that eliminates any savings you might get from starting with Grizzlemouth.

It’s always cheapest to go with the recipes you already know (unless you plan to make multiple sets, reducing the per-piece cost of recipes). The biggest exceptions are: if you can’t make enough fulgurite or you have enough Fractal/PvP currency and more T5 than mid-tier mats.

Grizzlemouth isn’t inherently better than, say, Hronk’s, which is also cheap.

Here’s the math
According to GW2 BLTC:

• Grizzlemouth’s Warhammer costs 65 gold to make:], if you craft everything
• Hronk’s Warhammer costs 65 gold to make, too
• 5 ecto costs 1.6 gold & a Viper’s inscription costs 5.5g to make
• Yassith’s Warhammer costs 70 gold to make, from scratch

Ignoring recipe costs, it’s cheaper by a few gold to make the Yassith’s directly. But if you know Grizzlemouth or Hronk (and not Yassith), then you can save a few gold by stat converting.

just making grizzlemouth and converting it is cheaper (in terms of time), it costs a few more gold, but you save a lot more time since fulgurite isn’t required.
Ofc people have different circumstances like you pointed out.