Guild Wars 2

Hey guys, I played for a while when the game first came out and a little in the beta I got my Guardian to lvl 60 and then I just didn’t have time to play anymore.

But now I do! But when I got on my Guardian I felt completely lost with what was going on, and what changes had been made to the Guardian so I was thinking I’d just reroll another character.

So, I’m here to ask for suggestions of what class I should start over with, I would like to WvWvW and PvE and preferably to be able to hold my own alone in WvWvW when it comes down to it. I also am not looking for an overly complex class at endgame such as what the engineer used to be. So if you could leave your suggestions it would be greatly appreciated

Guardian is fine. Or warrior or Mesmer.

I’d prefer to not go back to the Guardian because I remember always feeling out of place in WvWvW

Randymarsh.3962:

I’d prefer to not go back to the Guardian because I remember always feeling out of place in WvWvW

I am not sure how that came about. Used as support, the Guardian is a HUGE force multiplier in WvW. If I have just one guardian running with me, our capability increases five-fold.

Regardless, my suggestion is to try out the different classes. Obviously, you dont get the whole feel for a class until at least level 30, but you may be surprised at what you end up enjoying the most.

After leveling several classes to 80, what fit me best was the Ranger. Would not have seen that one coming had I not experienced for myself, lol.

well I guess I should also mention I was looking to be more of damage dealer or maybe even tank, but as a Guardian I felt restricted to support and I felt extremely weak with the scepter and or staff.

If you are looking for mostly damage dealer, maybe you can try thief. A bit fragile but pretty good damage.

Randymarsh.3962:

well I guess I should also mention I was looking to be more of damage dealer or maybe even tank, but as a Guardian I felt restricted to support and I felt extremely weak with the scepter and or staff.

Guardians make one of the best tanks in the game. I wont try to convince you, since you obviously dislike the class. Ill just point out that the shortcomings of the Guardian you experience may be due to you, and not the profession itself.

I would suggest trying out different classes to see which one clicks the best. If you are looking for a tank, the guardian is indeed what you are looking for. Maybe you arent entirely sure exactly what you are looking for? You may end up finding a class that fits your playstyle perfectly, but isnt exactly what you are looking for initially (my own experience with the ranger).

All of the classes can do great damage, most classes can tank, etc. Guardians are one of the few that can excel at both, but if you dont like it, there are others.

All classes can be damage dealers, but in different situations. A thief will do great damage, but generally only against a single target. Warrior will do great damage, and with something like the hammer, it will be 5-target AoE (as opposed to the 3 of a cleave). Eles provide good damage, along with some control and movement (depending on what weapons, of course).

The only one that I feel is a bit weak currently is the engi. But honestly, that might be the class the clicks with you the best, and may end up being what you, specifically, are most effective playing.

Basically, all of the classes do what you are looking for to varying degrees (but all capable). Its more of a question of “how” you want to do it that will determine the choice.

Also, as a tip, “tank” is known as “bunker” in GW2. The most popular classes for it are Guardian, Elementalist, Engineer, Ranger, and Necro (to a slightly lesser extent, imo).

Just try out a few classes. You can even go to the Heart of the Mists to try them out with all skills unlocked, etc.

Anything has it’s place in WvW, despite what people will say here imo. You can be a good player with anything.

To me personally it sounds like a dual dagger bunker ele will fit your playstyle the best.

Aeonblade.8709:

Anything has it’s place in WvW, despite what people will say here imo. You can be a good player with anything.

Agreed completely. And heck, it may not even be what most consider an “effective” class like the engi or ranger.

To me personally it sounds like a dual dagger bunker ele will fit your playstyle the best.

Definitely a solid suggestion. Just so the OP is aware though, a d/d ele doesnt really start to flourish until later levels. They are good lower, but its not indicative of how strong they can really be with full trait points. Stands true across the board, but in my experience, applies to the ele more than any other profession.

If you go this route, I suggest getting used to attunement switching as soon as you can. For me, the best way to do this was to switch to an available attunement when 3+ skills of the current attunement are on cooldown. Gets you in the swing of things, basically.

Well I never said I didn’t enjoy playing my Guardian but just when I did WvWvW I didn’t know what my purpose was. I actually really like him and that was the reason I got him to 60. The thing is when I got on him I feel very lost with what is going on in the game heh.

Randymarsh.3962:

Well I never said I didn’t enjoy playing my Guardian but just when I did WvWvW I didn’t know what my purpose was. I actually really like him and that was the reason I got him to 60. The thing is when I got on him I feel very lost with what is going on in the game heh.

Well, if you like him, I really would suggest sticking with it! The guardian is an amazing class.

As for feeling lost in WvW.. I think that will happen regardless of what class you have going. When I started, it was downright intimidating!

With any class though, your “purpose” is going to depend on your build and what weapons you are using as well as the profession. The guardian is really quite versatile, but it takes the right build to get what you are looking for out of it.

If you have any questions about WvW, do feel free to ask them here! As for guardian specific info, I would suggest posting a thread in the guardian forums, though you are certainly free to ask some questions here as well. One of the most useful things a guardian can do is lay down projectile reflects at their front line. They can also use hammer 5 on top of an incoming portal bomb (this never, ever, ever, ever gets old, btw. try it out!). You can also lay down a Line of Warding (staff 5) right when a gate breaks on a tower to keep all those bad guys out, all while hitting them and doing damage.

What types of builds have you used?

When you go into battle, what are you looking to do? Meaning, do you want to be in the middle of the fray, mid range, etc.

Try this thread out too. It covers a lot of info about the game mode.

Basically, your purpose will be the same on any class (capture objectives and defend the ones you have). “How” you go about that will not just depend on the specific class/profession, but also very, very strongly on what weapons you are using and the build. Your gear should complement all of this as well. Its quite a few different items to learn about, but once you get it, the theorycrafting is quite a lot of fun (if you are into that).

To start with, dont worry about upgrades on towers or anything like that. Youll get there eventually. Take note of where the more experienced players place siege like catapults and trebuchets, and then try them out for yourself. A good way to learn (and level) is to find that “blue dorito,” or commander icon, on the map and follow them. This will give you a good idea of what exactly goes on most of the time, like siege placement. Just remember, some commanders are better than others (thats putting it nicely, lol).

I think when I last played I was going with a 2H sword/ 1h sword and focus with a 0/0/10/20/20 build well thats what I currently have set up at lvl 60 im guessing i was going for a frontline fighter, I’m thinking ill just remake him and start fresh my professions are sorta screwy and I hate what he looks like :P

Sorry for inundating your post with replies, lol, but I thought of something else that tends to get overlooked by quite a few players (inexperienced or not) and that is combo fields.

As a guardian, you have a blast finisher on hammer 2. If you use this in a water field like healing spring (from a ranger) or healing rain (from an ele) it will do an area heal that also heals you.

Learn more about combos here

Utilizing them, regardless of class, makes a HUGE difference in a battle.

Randymarsh.3962:

I think when I last played I was going with a 2H sword/ 1h sword and focus with a 0/0/10/20/20 build well thats what I currently have set up at lvl 60 im guessing i was going for a frontline fighter, I’m thinking ill just remake him and start fresh my professions are sorta screwy and I hate what he looks like :P

Remember, you can re-trait at any point you want. Just go to your trainer and select the option to re-train your traits. You do not need to buy the manual to reset your traits (that can be very, very expensive!). You can also use a site like gw2buildcraft to theorycraft your different builds.

I think one of the most useful things to do is focus on gear with power, vitality, and toughness until you start to get things down a little more, then start adding damage as you get more comfortable. This applies to both gear and traits. So, at 80, you would look at X/X/30/30/X and put the other ten wherever you want. This gives you the most survivability so you can make mistakes and, ideally, not instantly die. It just gives more of a cushion as you learn.

I will say though, that learning your “purpose” on the battlefield will also apply to every profession you try out. So, everything you learn about combo fields, line of sight, positioning, siege placement, defense, etc will apply to any character you bring out onto the field.

If anything, I would suggest against deleting your character (if you were thinking about it). You have four other slots to use to play around with.

My advise is, creat a class, go straight to pvp zone ( where the spvp and stuff are) you will have the class at lvl 80 with full exotics and you can test it there and see if you like it. better then to wait until you get it to lvl 30 in pve or WvW.