Guild Wars 2

Hello! this is important so please read trough this.

I’m Duskwalker, one of the Leaders of Divine Knights of Balthazar [DKB].
we are a bit in a crisis now. long story short, we had to kick one of our officers from the guild because he was making serious threats to us about talking kitten about people, spreading hate in the guild etc…. because they had a fight. and he was not happy with how it was resolved.

we tried to talk to him ‘till late at night, to calm him down. we were calm and compassionate, but he would not understand/accept it.
so it’s understandable that we kicked him right?

well now he threatened us again, saying he will spread hate towards the entire guild. talking kitten about us and ruining our reputation in any way that he can. we take that threat seriously.

out of respect for that person, (and because i don’t want to ruin his reputation outside DKB), i’m not going to tell his name, but please, if you see someone seriousy talking kitten about the Divine Knights of Batlthazar [DKB]. please don’t just believe him blindly.

I thank you in the name of our entire Guild.
(sorry for eventual typos though).

sinderely
the leadership of DKB

Don’t worry, I’ve never heard of DKB… (no offense).

I have no idea who you people are, and I automatically assume every other guild is only full of all of the worst people in the world, so i seriously doubt this officer can besmirch your good name.

Also, why does it matter? It’s not like you can actually lose anything in GW2 due to people not liking you. It’s not like they can lay siege to your guild hall or ganky your lowbies like a game where politics actually matters.

I often see op’s guild pugging fractals (with me via lfg) or standing in la/divinity’s reach.

My condolances for the guild drama. It’s sad it can’t be prevented, cause so much unnecessary drama could be prevented if it didn’t exist.

Guild drama is common as rain. Kick him and move on.

Regarding what you’ve mentioned about this player’s actions, I would recommend writing a ticket to CS.

CS don’t usually step in regarding guild drama, but if this guy is actively and currently causing distress, unwanted attention or harassing your guild, then things could be taken further.

I would urge you to consider it, especially if this guy continues his antics for a while. I’d also suggest that you tell your guildies to not communicate or engage with this guy under any circumstance, and that if he does bad-mouth your guild or specific members in public chat, to take screenshots and report him. If members are really having big issues with him, tell them to block him.

Collect the screenshots and send them to CS, if it helps to move the case along.

I would imagine that he will just be warned (at least to start off) with a “cease and desist” sort of thing. CS probably won’t ever find out objectively what happened to trigger his outbursts, and if it’s a “6 of one, half a dozen of the other” sort of thing (and that it is possible that the guild provoked this reaction). If he continues after that, then maybe he’ll get a suspension or ban.

This isn’t important in the slightest, this is your guild’s problem and has very little to no value to anyone not asociated with your guild (which I assume to be the vast majority of players, 100% with any reasonable rounding, in fact).

So putting “please read” in the title and “this is important” in the first line of your post is incredibly misleading.

okay? Is this really a general discussion issue?

What could he actually do? If he goes off in map chat everyone is going to ignore him and block him. Nobody cares in map chat about guild drama or issues. Unless maybe if you are recruiting in map chat. Then I would suggest keeping an eye on him and not advertising in a map he is in. Other than that you won’t have a problem besides continues personal harassment. In that case you can put in a ticket or report in game.

Tempest in a teapot.

No offense and all, but no one outside your guild is going to care about someone talking about your guild in chat. People are going to tune him out or make fun of him for going on about it. Your guild drama doesn’t warrant a thread about it and it certainly isn’t important enough for a “Please Read” post in the forum.

If someone should ask you just say he was a member kicked for causing guild drama, which should be obvious enough. I’m betting though you won’t get many questions about it. Instruct your guild members to block him and if they don’t do that to never respond.

What Flesh says sums it up pretty nicely.

It’s not going to affect people outside your guild, really. For it to do that, the drama has to be pretty severe, i.e. its effects spread to other guilds/guilds in the alliance and the home server (thus WvW) or large organised communities. I do know of an instance where guild drama was bad enough to do such (and it was regarding the largest and very well known guild on a server), so it wasn’t just some guy harassing and badmouthing a guild in public chat.

Chances are it will have very little impact on your guild regarding recruiting. The real threat is likely going to be any related turmoil within your guild, so perhaps it would be more suited to focus efforts there than broadcasting your guild drama to the forums?

That doesn’t make what you might have to be dealing with less troublesome for you. But like I said, if the guy is genuinely harassing you (and it’s clearly a one-sided attack from an objective standpoint), then you should contact CS or report him in-game.

Five minutes ago I knew nothing about [DKB], neither did I care. Now I know that their leader takes him/herself and his/her guild way too serious and important. This thread backfired. Hard.

The people saying ‘op takes his guild to serious’, take this forum post to serious. Both people are not making a good case for being objective, and good at realizing, it’s all relative.

Not to sound like I’m disrespecting you OP, but why would anyone care? I’ve seen plenty of people in the past saying this guild or that guild is not worth this or that. That’s why I tend to join guilds for guild missions, but generally not interact with the people in them, less chance of being dragged in to guild drama that way. My current guild is full of nice people, and so far not a single sign of guild drama. The guild i was in before that, constant drama. I left that guild quickly, with out so much as a bye.

I like a bit of banter in PvP as do others. Which has probably lead to some people thinking I’m not a nice guy, and I could not care less. At the end of the day why do I, or anyone else for that matter care what some faceless person on the other end of a keyboard thinks about us matter? It’s not like you walk in to a job interview and introduced your self by your GW2 name and have the person interviewing you say “You!” Then punch your lights out.

As Dennis Nedrey said in Jurassic Park, “Nobody cares!”

While I can understand guild drama can be detrimental internal….there’s not a whole lot that the external world sees. Outside of DKB, how are we supposed to know who’s an officer and who’s not? On top of that how do we know what you’re ranking system is and what’s a regular officer vs senior officer vs Morgan Freeman level officer?

That’s not at all to say that I’m dismissing OP’s concern, but rather I think his efforts are best to be directed internally as the outside world is likely to to just ignore/lol at the troubled member mentioned in this post.

We also run into the “name and shame” issue of the forums so it’s not like we could actually know who this person is without contacting OP outside of the forums.