Guild Wars 2

I just convinced my wife to play this game, and she decided to go with Guardian. I am going with Elemantalist and we are planning to be grouped and level together the entire time.

My question is if Loot and XP is shared in the group?

For example, we are doing a DE, she charges into a pack and hits 1 or 2 enemies while frantically trying to face the right direction, in the mean time I am AoEing everything and kill 6-8 enemies.

Will she get credit for what I killed in the DE and still get Gold and be able to loot everything?

This is a big concern of mine since she is new to games and the way the DE’s are she won’t be able to tag anything before it dies in some events.

Papa Shongo.8104:

So to clarify, she only needs to do a single point of damage for event and xp credit?

This is concerning for the more populated areas, since as a new player she will be spending much more time than others trying to even run to face the enemies.

Correct. If she sneezes on it or looks at it cross she’ll get exp and event credit (usually) for the kill. In some of the events it seems to calculate based on the amount of total damage you did to the enemies but those are usually ones with veterans and champions which are easy to get damage in on.

She has to do a certain amount of damage in order to get loot credit. Doing ANY damage gives event and heart credit though.

So to clarify, she only needs to do a single point of damage for event and xp credit?

This is concerning for the more populated areas, since as a new player she will be spending much more time than others trying to even run to face the enemies.

vicwolf.7862:

Papa Shongo.8104:

So to clarify, she only needs to do a single point of damage for event and xp credit?

This is concerning for the more populated areas, since as a new player she will be spending much more time than others trying to even run to face the enemies.

Correct. If she sneezes on it or looks at it cross she’ll get exp and event credit (usually) for the kill. In some of the events it seems to calculate based on the amount of total damage you did to the enemies but those are usually ones with veterans and champions which are easy to get damage in on.

Thanks for the quick response. I wish being in an actual group would give some sharing though, I’m going to have to kite and dodge around to give my wife time to tag things, which is fine, but in DE’s where there are lots of people I see myself getting Gold while she ends up Bronze or Silver. This will make me outlevel her pretty quick.

Find her a good aoe weapon/skill. I think the guardian scepter bounces between enemies right? A lot of people have found the best aoe skills to get the most they can out of events.

The guardian can use a staff that has a cone attack which hits everything in front of you for an auto-attack. Also #4 is a might stack buff that everyone loves, and #3 is a sprint boost.

I suggest using it (a staff) during those hectic DEs that things are dying faster than you can target them.

Something I heard about being in a party is that for looting purposes, you still need to hit an enemy, but your party’s damage (if they hit the same mob) is applied to yours as well for better chance of loot dropping.

While I don’t know if this is verified or not, I swear more things drop for me when I’m in a party rather than when I’m alone.

Also, the staff is great for Guardians. The cone angle for the auto attack is 90 degrees or more, so it’s really wide.

Quit treating your wife like an idiot. Sheesh. Treat her with respect, give her a bit of time to figure things out. Running towards mobs isn’t hard, and your character auto-turns to face anything you attack. Explain mechanics as she asks and encourage her to look at the keybindings. If I ever caught my mate talking about me the way you’re talking about her, I’d drop him like a sack of rocks. Most people with genuine mental or physical disabilities can manage the basics of MMO combat just fine – treating your wife like a bumbling toddler is not going to make her enjoy this game any.

If she likes the game, she can AoE at events and get all the kill credits, just like everyone else. If she doesn’t like the game, then you’ll have to find someone else to play with and she’ll apparently feign stupidity to get out of sharing your hobby. If she doesn’t like events or prefers single-target weapon set ups, then she’ll be better off not doing popular events. Fortunately, there is WvW, sPVP, hearts, jump puzzles, crafting, and gathering as options where she doesn’t have to AoE to get the most out of the game.

Sparkie you need to calm down and get off the high horse. This is mainly a general info question and for early levels while learning the game. Of course she is going to learn and get better, but right now with the crowding of the low level events, I was concerned I would out level her.

I appreciate the other contributions to the actual topic. From multiple people it sounds like group damage is calculated together so we will be fine.

If you do damage to an enemy, you do not necessarily get any credit towards loot, exp, or even completion. I do not know what the threshold is, but if you put a level 10 in Orr, AoEing in the big karma farming events (yes, I tried this), you will get a lot of hits for 1 but no credit towards anything. Even grouped with somebody that is participating fully and level appropriate, the elementalist gets nothing.

That said, any reasonable level of participation will be rewarded in all areas. When I group with my wife and kids, they do not get credit for kills they do not help with, and I do not get credit when I fail to participate in a kill. Event participation is a little trickier to determine, but follows similar rules—I have gotten gold failure for not killing a boss in time, when I never even tried to fight it, and gold success for an escort I didn’t help with.

Try a greatsword on a guardian—theres some nice AE potential there. You might want to hold off a moment until you see the seal (skill #2 on guardian greatsword) hit the ground. Skill #4 within range of #2 grants retaliation—nice if you are AEing.

One thing worth bearing in mind is that, the way the game is set up, it doesn’t fundamentally matter if you out-level her – or vice versa. So long as you stay in areas appropriate to whichever of you is lowest level, the higher-level character will be automatically down-rated to a level appropriate for the area.

tell her to use aoe as a first shot in Events – that will help her tag more mobs to get gold

I play a lvl 80 guardian. I’d like to put some insight on this coming from some one who leveled up with 4 people and got too 80 the fastest (although to be fair i did have a higher average playing time per day)

Idk what lvl u may be but until she starts getting utilities, she wont be as effective.

I’d consider picking up meditations. (Smite Condition and Judges Intervention) both are my favorite abilities for a guardian. Good AoE dmg allowing her to “tap” (hit/hurt/dmg… whatever floats ur boat) enemies that shes not even targeting.

Also look into your approach when attacking. Is she going in first or are you? She should (as a guardian) rushing in first. Her attack pattern should roughly be… Leap of Faith > Symbol of Wrath > Whirling Wrath > Auto-Combo till death and reapply Symbol of Wrath when needed.

If its a mutli-group of mobs thenn…. Leap of Faith > Binding Blade > Pull > Whirling Wrath > Symbol of Wrath > Smith Condition, etc etc etc.

Since your using magic and she is melee focused, shes going to be at a disadvantage compared to you. Which is why to be able to level effectively you should be supporting her combat instead of her supporting your combat.

Like others said before using a staff has a great cone-like auto-attack. Greatsword auto attack hits 3 enemies if they are in range of melee. And a specter gives her access to ranged combat as well as an option to use a torch/shield.

If you aggro, run to her. Literally plop your character on top of hers, it’ll only be a couple seconds before she’ll pop Whirling Wrath again or Symbol or Wrath, or even just an Auto-attack.

Just realize that you are playing with the most melee combat centered class with the least options for ranged. While you are basically the exact opposite. Learn to do combine attacks for combos, dodging to pull enemies in a certain direction, and how to coordinate around each other rather then just swarming around.

And personally… If i was playing with my wife (which sounds awesome) I’d actually purposefully play worse while questing/grinding together and almost push most of the burden on her (being the new player) so that she can understand the difficulty and gain the experience needed. Dont shelter her in fights and just order her what to do/tell her what attacks to use all the time. Shes gotta think up strategies on her own and execute them on her own will. Or she’ll never survive in the end game.

i party with my wife as well (she’s a gw2 veteran, and i’m the new one to MMOs here, lol) and when doing the same event, we’ve both gotten diff grades before (gold vs silver vs bronze, etc)

just help your wife to understand the mechanics! and soon you’ll be the one catching up to her ; ))) that’s awesome you get to play together. but as a vet, don’t think of holding her hand, but rather, teach her how to battle.

some small tips as a guardian. i find it tough to get taps on everything in big events, so i do:
- Purging Flames (decent AoE, removes conditions and creates a combo field)
- like others mentioend the Staff or Focus can do some AoE
- the Torch’s #5 does decent as well, paired with the right movement.
- if she wants to learn to charge in first, judge’s intervention gives a massive gap closer, as well as AoE dmg (iirc?) and then she can start combo-ing
- last but not least, the Great Sword #3 skill whirling wrath does some good dmg and aoe as well, but you need to be right in the middle of the heat.

I really wouldn’t worry about it; just play normally and you’ll both out-level the content by far anyway, so it really doesn’t matter. You’re better off thinking about skill synergies and developing tactics, especially if you plan to do dungeons, which are a different beast all together. (Guardians make dungeons play far more smoothly—don’t buy into that “there are no tanks” dogma.)