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Posted by: Cryshal.4036

Cryshal.4036

And then reviving, clicking on my heal that fills up my health completely. And then suddenly finding myself defeated within a couple seconds. Is this something new? I don’t remember this happening before. It happens almost every time now, and the enemies are not near. It happens so fast I can’t tell actually, where any damage is coming from. The damage doesn’t show in my chat window.

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Posted by: mapokl.3167

mapokl.3167

Are you warrior?
If so check if you don’t accidentally clicked 3 ability or enabled autocast on it. Is you toon engulfed in “flames” before dying?

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Posted by: Cryshal.4036

Cryshal.4036

Yes, I’m playing a warrior. I don’t understand what you mean. No, I’m not engulfed in flames.

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Posted by: mapokl.3167

mapokl.3167

Warriors have special downed ability called “vengeance”. If you activate it you imidiatly rise again from downed state. (regardless of downed health). But only for 15s after which you get deafeated. There is small chance when killing enemies to quit vengeance when alive.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vengeance

If you suddenly die after 15s or so from ralling from downed state it’s mostly becouse you activated Vengeance.

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Posted by: mercury ranique.2170

mercury ranique.2170

The number 3 downed skill for warrior is called Vengeance

Rally and fight normally for a brief time. When the rally ends, you are defeated.
Duration: 15 s

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Posted by: Cryshal.4036

Cryshal.4036

Oh, I see. I don’t think I have that. I haven’t clicked any ability except heal after downed. I will check that my heal isn’t Vengeance. Or that I don’t have Sweet Revenge. I do know that I’m not in combat when rallied, but there are enemies around, just not near. I will need to check this closer, to see what I’m doing after rally.

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

If you’re playing a warrior then you have it. It’s one of the special skills you get while downed, not a regular skill that you might have used afterwards.

It’s the 3rd one on the bar and probably the one that takes longest to recharge. If you click it you will revive instantly, but 15 seconds later you will be defeated, which sounds exactly like what you’re describing.

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Posted by: Cryshal.4036

Cryshal.4036

Now I get it. Vengeance is my rally skill. Dang. I need to think of a way to avoid that.

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Posted by: GummiBear.2756

GummiBear.2756

Now I get it. Vengeance is my rally skill. Dang. I need to think of a way to avoid that.

really, dont use it untill the very last moment before you will get defeated anyway from downed, or if you ahve the sweet revenge trait (20pt in discipline) whihc will revive you for real, if you kill something while under the effect of vengeance

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Posted by: mapokl.3167

mapokl.3167

Just to correct:
There is a small chance (like 5%) to rally from the vengeance after kill even if not traited with “sweet revenge”, so it not totally useless, if you would die anyway. When traited this jump to 95% chance or so(surely not the 100% it says in desription), but what you have to remember is that, many things that rally you when downed don’t count as kills for vengeance, for example destroying turret would rally you when you down, but won’t rally you from vengeance. The same apply to pets, minions, totems etc.

And you don’t have to use it for rally. Use it as last resort skill if healing is impossible.