Fractals with AR
Check out dulfy.net for the recipes on infusing your rings further. You will lose your current infusions I believe but 2-3 more runs after that will give you the 150 more relics to buy more infusions. That will put you at 20 AR.
I think the OP is referring to the low drop rate of the mists essences you need to infuse the rings – 5 vials, 3 globs, 1 shard for one ring – that is a lot! I’m at lvl 17 right now and I guess I will be farming lower levels for a while if I want to infuse any rings too :/
I want to get to 15 AR so my next order of business is to make a beta fractal capacitor, you need 1 vial and 1 glob for that which I was lucky enough to find already. You need more components than that (skill points, ectos, lots of fractal relics) but the mist essences are the rarest IMO. I am going for a capacitor rather than quiver/book because I almost have enough fractal relics for the prototype.
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Only thing you can do is farm 20 and lower for a while until you get enough globs/shards/vials to infuse your ring. 10-15 AR is enough for level 20-23 or so.
Drop rates on condensed mists has been abysmal lately, so good luck. If you get enough globs, you can upconvert them into a shard via the mystic forge.
After farming alot of these fractals im getting frustrated about the drop rate, my pt members get them and i dont…
Today did lvl 20 daily with the 10 AR, and on last boss it did 90k agony dmg on me but that was the only time i died.
I am just a casual PVE player, i cannot do more fractals then 1 because it takes time and its frustrating not getting anything.
Probally im just unlucky in the drop of these upgr. mats, i do get exotics.. today got the Fractal Scepter lol.
Man I wish I could even see a fractal weapon drop lol. I have enough vials/globs/shards to infuse 2 rings but ill be able to upgrade my capacitor in another 30 relics so im holding out. They might have changed the drops tho, I did a lvl 12 daily last night and got a vial and a glob in the dredge one. Hadn’t seen that before in any lvl 20+ runs.
The drop rate for these essences does seem to be much less than when fractals started. right now, I get one every ~10 fractals (regardless of level – level just determines which one you get).
all I can recommend is to use basic infusions on back and both rings (15 AR) and run level 21 for 2 shards. downgrade 1 of the shards and 1 of the globs that shard gives you. should be really close to enough essences to make an infused ring, then add basic infusion for a total of 20 AR.
also: AR is not 100% necessary, it just lets you make mistakes. if you don’t have it, it’s still possible to dodge-roll the agony attack. just have to be really puppy good to do that…
I wish I could sell these extra essences I have… I currently have like 12 extra rings, 4 extra infused rings, 8 extra of each essence. only waiting on 250 ecto to get to 30 AR.
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eat an omnom bar and grind for essences unfortunately.
For the Maw fractal, it’s often acceptable (depending on your group) to put on your MF to clear the trash, then put your normal armor and jewelry back on after to fight the Maw. Those mobs drop a lot of globs.
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Nahh i tried with MF gear on, i give up. I will not farm to be good in it.. i will just wait for new PVE content.
Fractals = Game Over for me
It really does require like 200+ fractal runs to have full agony resistance. Go for basic infusions first, then upgrade as you get stuff.
also remember: there is a recipe to upgrade essences. so running level 8 a lot will eventually get you AR.
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Or you can just keep progressing.
If you’re up to stuff on your dodging, you don’t even need AR, and the only time your party will even know that you don’t have any is JM. The only real stigma about AR is when you can’t rely on your own dodging skill or don’t have enough healing/projectile block to maintain health in a certain grawl fight, thus you need to enforce an AR check so you can gear carry yourself via tanking out the boss hits. For 26 and below, there’s almost zero difficulty even if you have 0 AR [minus the JM gear check], so people probably won’t even notice.
I joined AR25+ groups when I was new and had 5-10 AR all the way up to FotM30, warned them, and the ones that took me anyways finished the frac 100% of the time because they had the dodge and AR themselves to carry hard. There’s simply a point at lv26 at which people won’t care anymore because they can tank it for you, so as long as you do damage and you’re not a bother dying all over the place, I’m sure people will pick you up. Or you probably didn’t want that party anyway.
Oh, and at lv26, all rings you get will be infused, so you’re good to go whenever you pick them up.
P.S. Don’t do 28 though, as it puts in a jump in difficulty for grawl shaman that you probably will get raged at for.
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It’s true. If you’re unlucky with drops you cannot progress past level 19 in fractals, since at lvl 20+ 20AR is kinda the minimum you can run with.
You should be able to buy essence with pristine fractal relics. Once you get your rings, pristine relics are useless bank-fillers.
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I don’t know about the 20s or 30s, but for 40+ it doesnt matter how much AR you have at all, I do fracs mainly on my mesmer, I have 30 ar, 1 hit with agony gets me downed, everyone once in awhile the group needs to wipe for whatever reason and I go in to fight the boss nude, I get hit with agony with 0 ar, and I go down just as fast, I cannot figuer out what the use is for ar, and especialy why some groups require 30+ ar, it does nothing
Hold up, I just want to clear something up for those that may not be running fractals much yet. Please dont think it’s some major gear check. I started running fractals on my guadian with all green jewelry. Everything else was exotic but then 1-9 isn’t rough anyway, it’s just learning the mechanics of the fights. And thats what you should be doing from 1-9 and pay close attention from 10-19 so you can recognize the agony attacks. Agony at those levels can be healed through as it is, and not just on an AH guardian. Several others in my group did it as well. You do nt in any way NEED 20 AR at fotm lvl 20. Of course it makes thing easier but thats it. It allows for more mistakes. I had 10AR at 20 because I didnt want to sit at 10-19 and “grind” for vials and globs to infuse my rings. Two simple I fusions worked just fine. I would recommend 15AR if you’re going to mid 20’s because if you get hit unless you’re at full health you’ll probably go down and that’s not good for the team. But up until then di nt be afraid to run with less.
People used to not gear check or even ask for Agony Resistance before the 28th January. But since then, you can get people level 20 doing level 30. They don’t have the agony or the experience to make the run easy. If i run with my 2 normal fractal partner in lower level for daily I don’t really care since we can carry the group, but in level 30 its begin to be a little hard to carry 2 pugs not prepared to face this level. You can’t obviously know their skill, so only Agony Resistance can help. But anyway, 15 AR is good enough for level 20+. If you only have 2 rings for 10 AR, you should do your daily fractal to get enough fractal relic to craft your back item. This will give you 15AR and nobody can say anything on that until level 30.
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This is true. When I started was before the update to fotm. Pugging it since then has been much more problematic. I keep getting glass cannon builds of people in the 10-18 daily that are only at an actual lvl 5 or less. Awful update to the fractals imo. I like that you can rejoin groups when you DC or that if someone drops you can go ahead and recruit another but that upleveling thing should have been left out. As far as I can see the negatives far outweigh the benefits in that regard.