Q:
Frame Rate problems. Show me your PC build!
A:
Hey, I have just last week bought the pc that you want:
i7 4790k
16gb Ram
ssd 256GB
gtx980ti
and a new lcd , resolution 2560×1440.
Since then I play everything totally maxed out incl supersampling and effect LOD disabled and I the lowest I can get is 18fps on karka boss with loads of players and massive effects (because of effect lod). In pvp I get around 150fps without vertical sync, altough i play with v-sync usually because I hate tearing.
I think your pc is fine except the CPU. I dont think you need to rebuild anythin else unless you have a 4K monitor…
You will never get good fps with AMD unless u drop the graphics a lot , no matter what GPU you have.
AMD user.
4790k @ 4.5 ghz water cooled.
32gb ddr3
Titan X
3 × 1tb ssd
I easily maintain the fps you seek in all aspects of the game. Yes, some of my build is overkill for 1080p, but I use it for purposes other than gaming as well. The build you are considering would be plenty sufficient for the frames you seek if playing at 1080. This game is cpu intensive, so having a quality processor you can safely over clock helps a lot.
Something is wrong with your pc, mate. Not sure what, because your system is a killer. The only thing I don’t like is that AMD CPU. Never been their fan, myself. Too much heating problems.
I am running i5 4460 8 gb ram and gtx 760 and I am maintaining 60 fps 1080p resolution, almost all the time, except when there’s massive zergs or in world bosses maps.
Your CPU is a real bottleneck on your system. You can put as powerful a GPU as you want, you won’t see improvements. The CPU you have was released in 2012 and was considered a mid range then with gaming performance iffy because of poor single thread performance.
And it’s not just GW2 that “loves” Intel CPU’s, it’s that Intel CPU’s are just designed better for the types of things games need to do.
Everything else is fine. You don’t even need an i7 CPU unless you do things that just absolutely have it, or are running more than a 1080p monitor. When it comes to gaming, all reviews talk about the benefits being not that noticeable between the i5 and the i7. Tom’s hardware even recommends the i5 for gaming.
The i5-4690k is the top end recommendation, and if you don’t plan on doing any overclocking there is no reason to get anything other 4590 as the k cpu just means it’s easier to overclock. At stock speeds they are identical.
Yak’s Bend – Expletus
Old system here 3yrs now
- Intel i7 3930K hex core @3.8 (base is 3.2, oc-ed to normal turbo freq) on a
- ASUS Rampage IV extreme
- 2 GTX 780 (3Gb) in SLi on 2 monitors 1:1920*1200 2: 1920*1080
- 32Gb Ram
- 1 256 Gb SSD
- 1 250 Gb 10k RPM Hdd (swaps/and other temp files)
- 2 HDD’s 1Tb each .in raid 0
Framerate in Open area’s 60-85 FPS witrh all option on high/ultra, supersampling The new High MSAA and so on. If I seek a place with a nice view I sometimes have 125+ FPS, as long as no other -players- are around, spawns are not nearly as big a problem.
In LA ~ 35-45 depending on location and amount of people or during events framerate can go down to 15-18 FPS, My sli set locking up and crashing gw2 happens sometimes with the karka queen and tequatl. I do not play triple trouble…
WvW is generally stable 60+ FPS with a guild group (25-30, occ. 35) in combat FPS drops to 45 somtimes a bit lower. depending on the size of the attackers (1 or 2 ebnemy groups or zergs.. in a big zerg vs zer vs zerg I retain 20-24 FPS,
It is not a graphics problem they have capacity and are 30-45% loaded…
CPU will bottleneck a bit and FPS tends to be a bit better at 4.0 but I have my computer in a location where ambients vary and I couldn’t cope with my PC doing the safe thing and just power down during gaming as it would really make me angry. mostly at myself.
Full air cooling, ambient can go up to high 30’s celsius in summer and performance will suffer.
Been There, Done That & Will do it again…except maybe world completion.
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Thank you all for the feedback! As it stands, I am currently looking into playing Guild Wars 2 at a much higher resolution than 1080p. I am hopefully purchasing a monitor that runs it at 3440×1440. So in that case I will need to update the PC no doubt.
Now its just the question of what kind of build I will get the most out of with a budget of around £1900. (for the PC alone)
Character Model Limit – this is a bottleneck of AMD CPUs for a long time.
Turn it to Lowest – it still shows quite a handful of character models, but when crowd is heavy it allows to keep stable fps(40+).
Do NOT upgrade yet! It won’t be worth it the Ti is better than the 980 of course but Nvidia’s Pascal is right around the corner so I’d wait for that. Also I’d hold out on a new CPU with Cannonlake since the PCIe busses will be more stable for PCIe SSDs. Yes, you will want one.
" I am currently looking into playing Guild Wars 2 at a much higher resolution than 1080p. "
It’s playable at 4k with just a GTX 670 which is what I do. I take 8k screenshots (though it bugs out since the Windows 10 “upgrade” but worked fine with Windows 7 I say worked fine loosely however since it was a 7 FPS at best slideshow but I only did it for screenshots) when I can but with a Pascal GPU should be somewhat playable at 8k. I’d say certainly but that’s a lot of data to fit through the pipe. I have blazing fast internet speed at 90 mbps and upload speed of 6 mbps with a CAT-7 cable but even that should bottleneck 8k, though 8k videos on Youtube seem seamless so maybe not.
GTX 980 is overkill for GW2, your CPU is the problem. Get an i5 6600 and a GA-H110M-A and an 8gb stick of DDR4 and your system will murder GW2 with that GTX 980.
4790k and a GTX 980 here, and it’s not an overkill. It’s the lowest you can go if you want supersample on and steady 60fps, that is with character models and numbers set to Medium and reflections to middle value.
But even with this you get dips even as low as 30fps in some areas. The game is poorly optimized and runs on an ancient engine.
4790k and a GTX 980 here, and it’s not an overkill. It’s the lowest you can go if you want supersample on and steady 60fps, that is with character models and numbers set to Medium and reflections to middle value.
But even with this you get dips even as low as 30fps in some areas. The game is poorly optimized and runs on an ancient engine.
If you’re talking about 1080p resolution then gtx 980 is way overkill. Also Guild Wars 2 is CPU bound, which means whatever video card you have, it does very little next to nothing for how your game will run. I don’t know how things stand for higher resolutions if indeed you have talked for higher resolutions. As many pointed out the OP is perfectly fine with just CPU change.
Many fps problems comes for me atleast at large zergs or in world bosses fights, but thats quite normal. You cant have some much clutter from animations, models etc etc on your screen without dips in the fps at all. Everywhere else I maintain steady 60 fps with everything maxed out, exept the Character model limit, which is set on lowest.
i5 4460, 8 gb RAM, gtx 760 – my system, which i posted a bit earlier in the topic already.
I don’t have a dedicated graphics card, only Integrated. My cpu is a i5 quad core 3.1 ghz and I have 8gb of ram. I have had to lower some settings to maintain around 30 fps but all the ones I think are most important, like textures and shading, are still at max.