General questions about HoM
some quick answers:
1) 30 points is going to take some serious time…. I would expect to invest a few hundred hours of play time to get 30 points if you’re doing it 100% by yourself. That being said, the market for high end materials may have crashed and Destroyer weapons may be cheaper than they were prior to GW2 launch…. so it could be cheaper now that it was at some points of the game…. hence, easier. Still, it’s going to be an investment in time.
2. Everything in the HoM can be spawned as often as you want to, just remember: The HoM weapons and Armors are skins only, they have no stats and have to be applied to existing weapons. That being said, they do not require transmutation stones.
3. Heritage armor is your first 6 points in the HoM, and you get 3 points just for linking your account, so that one is almost a gimmie.
Honestly, your first 10-15 points are pretty easy, and up to 30 isn’t hard just a little time consuming.
GL if you decide to go for it, but I’ll be honest, I tend to only use HoM skins for a feeling of nostalgia and when leveling a character.
30 point? With help, 1 month. I know someone who got GW1 a month before GW2’s release and got to 30 just a bit after release.
However, several of us had spare minis, crafting materials and gold. Having someone with fully equipped heroes helps a lot with getting through all the missions, especially the hard mode versions.
1. About how long would it take for a new gw1 player to get a decent amount of points? Is it gonna take a while? Say 30 points.
Well, let’s go to the calculator. Merely having your accounts linked gives you 3. Doing anything to give you 10 statues will net you another 6; this can be anything you feel like doing but if you all the missions with full bonus on both hard mode and normal you can net 10 statues. Every 5 statues after that is 1 point. Minimal effort earns you about 10 points here.
Minis will get you up fast IF you get a Black Moa Chick which will count as 2 points. (Note, it is easier to get the pieces yourself and find someone who can run you to do the last part than to pay the price for it.) A “Rare” mini may run you some coin but you can do it. This will earn you 3 more points. You’ll need to get 20 minis to get another point and every 10 minis after that will earn you 1 point until you hit 50. Minimal effort will get you 3 points here. Buying cheap “common” miniatures will get you to 20 minis fast so maybe 4 points before you are looking at expensive efforts.
Get “Charm Animal” and pick up the following animals: Phoenix (end of Factions campaign), Black Moa (quest line in the Kurzick territories of Factions), Black Widow (Underworld quest spawn), and any other level 20 pet. Add MOX for a 5 points total. Getting special hero armor for heroes will allow you to add another to this monument for more points. Minimal effort gets you 5.
Resilience will be costly since you need special armors, and if you can get: Vabbian, Kurzick/Luxon, and any other 3 armors you will earn 6 points. Vabbian will be expensive but do-able. Kurzick/Luxon will take some Faction-based PvP but you can do it. Don’t . . . don’t try for Obsidian Armor unless you hate your life.
Valor requires weapons. This can be expensive. You need either Destroyer, Oppressor, or Tormented weapons. Tormented will be expensive to buy the token for, Destroyer will cost a lot of rarer materials, and Oppressor requires you finish the “War in Kryta” content, which can be really tough for your average player.
With enough help and possibly a mentoring figure you can probably get most of this done in a month or two. And pick up other points for yourself, perhaps, but you’ll probably wind up around 20-25 before needing to expend effort.
2. Is everything a one time purchase or can I buy an unlimited amount of something?
All the skin transmutations are unlimited. Go nuts!
3. I am interested in the heritage armors. Is it a complete set or do I buy it in parts? How much points is it?
Just by linking and doing a minimal effort for 6 points, you’ll have all the Heritage armor. Get to 10 and you get the Fiery Dragon Sword. You can buy it in parts and thus apply it in parts. (Heritage medium shoulderpads are a nice exchange for some forms.)
1. About how long would it take for a new gw1 player to get a decent amount of points? Is it gonna take a while? Say 30 points.
Well, let’s go to the calculator. Merely having your accounts linked gives you 3. Doing anything to give you 10 statues will net you another 6; this can be anything you feel like doing but if you all the missions with full bonus on both hard mode and normal you can net 10 statues. Every 5 statues after that is 1 point. Minimal effort earns you about 10 points here.
Minis will get you up fast IF you get a Black Moa Chick which will count as 2 points. (Note, it is easier to get the pieces yourself and find someone who can run you to do the last part than to pay the price for it.) A “Rare” mini may run you some coin but you can do it. This will earn you 3 more points. You’ll need to get 20 minis to get another point and every 10 minis after that will earn you 1 point until you hit 50. Minimal effort will get you 3 points here. Buying cheap “common” miniatures will get you to 20 minis fast so maybe 4 points before you are looking at expensive efforts.
Get “Charm Animal” and pick up the following animals: Phoenix (end of Factions campaign), Black Moa (quest line in the Kurzick territories of Factions), Black Widow (Underworld quest spawn), and any other level 20 pet. Add MOX for a 5 points total. Getting special hero armor for heroes will allow you to add another to this monument for more points. Minimal effort gets you 5.
Resilience will be costly since you need special armors, and if you can get: Vabbian, Kurzick/Luxon, and any other 3 armors you will earn 6 points. Vabbian will be expensive but do-able. Kurzick/Luxon will take some Faction-based PvP but you can do it. Don’t . . . don’t try for Obsidian Armor unless you hate your life.
Valor requires weapons. This can be expensive. You need either Destroyer, Oppressor, or Tormented weapons. Tormented will be expensive to buy the token for, Destroyer will cost a lot of rarer materials, and Oppressor requires you finish the “War in Kryta” content, which can be really tough for your average player.
With enough help and possibly a mentoring figure you can probably get most of this done in a month or two. And pick up other points for yourself, perhaps, but you’ll probably wind up around 20-25 before needing to expend effort.
2. Is everything a one time purchase or can I buy an unlimited amount of something?
All the skin transmutations are unlimited. Go nuts!
3. I am interested in the heritage armors. Is it a complete set or do I buy it in parts? How much points is it?
Just by linking and doing a minimal effort for 6 points, you’ll have all the Heritage armor. Get to 10 and you get the Fiery Dragon Sword. You can buy it in parts and thus apply it in parts. (Heritage medium shoulderpads are a nice exchange for some forms.)
And here we have again again again a what sound like a longtime gw1 player that forgot how long some of that stuff might take if you avhe start from scratch and dont know anyone who can help… i mean spoon feed you stuff
That said i got 5 points (that all but the heritage helm, and i rarely ever show my helm in games anyway prefer to show my hair) thus still took a while but was quite doable with no help whatsoever (hard to find ppl to play with so had to solo pretty much everything) first 3 by linking account so yeah that free, the others 2 i got 1 from getting mox (having all 3 campaigns and a lvl 10 character), and 1 for a lvl 20 ranger pet and think im somewhat close to getting the prophecies campaign done but grew tired of my ranger so never got on with it, each campaign completed should award another 1 point and 1 extra point if you complete all the bonus objectives in all the missions as well
6pt is all you need for all the heritage armor and they can be used as many times as you want to
the reward calculator you can find here:
http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=welcome
and remember you need ONE main campaign (prophecies, Nightfall or factions) as well as eye of the north to get any rewards in GW2
Prophecies + Eye of the North is all you need for 30 points but getting all of them makes it easier. I wouldn’t recommended getting all of them but on the other hand I don’t have anything against people giving ANet more money.
And here we have again again again a what sound like a longtime gw1 player that forgot how long some of that stuff might take if you avhe start from scratch and dont know anyone who can help… i mean spoon feed you stuff
. . . yes. Yes I totally forgot how long some of that stuff might take. It does depend on how much time gets put into it per day, how skilled the player is, if they can get any help . . . there’s a lot of “ifs” involved.
But that’s what forums and Reddit are good for. I saw lots of help the week before GW2 launched, and I saw people giving away 1st year common minis to people who asked for them.
And honestly, earning Heritage armor shouldn’t take long. Earning 30? That’ll take a while, and I never claimed that 30 could be reached very quickly. It still took me a half a year to go from 27 to 30 . . . but only because I had most of the cheap minis and was dead-set on Zaishen. (Note, this is a terrible title to attempt unless you have money to throw at the problem.)
Anyway, good luck with it.
Prophecies + Eye of the North is all you need for 30 points but getting all of them makes it easier. I wouldn’t recommended getting all of them but on the other hand I don’t have anything against people giving ANet more money.
Khisanth, not to be rude, but are you sure? Can you please break it down to show that’ll be enough? I’m ticking on my fingers and without some immensely focused building charted out ahead of time I don’t think it can be done.
You can get more than 40 points even with just one campaign and EotN.
Here is a guide to get 30 points with just one campaign fairly quickly.
Edit: Reading that guide I think it would be better to get less points from weapons (valor) and sub them for more miniatures (20+), honor statues/titles (10+), and getting 10 statues in fellowship (or 20 if you bought nightfall). Leave me a message if you get into it.
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You can get more than 40 points even with just one campaign and EotN.
Here is a guide to get 30 points with just one campaign fairly quickly.
Thank you for leaving the link! I was mostly dubious, my head said “yeah that’s possible” buy I was at a loss as to how.
Prophecies + Eye of the North is all you need for 30 points but getting all of them makes it easier. I wouldn’t recommended getting all of them but on the other hand I don’t have anything against people giving ANet more money.
Khisanth, not to be rude, but are you sure? Can you please break it down to show that’ll be enough? I’m ticking on my fingers and without some immensely focused building charted out ahead of time I don’t think it can be done.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guide_to_earning_Hall_of_Monuments_rewards#Limited_campaigns
I would go for something like
http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=details&details=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA&todo=AQ9BAAAwnnAwzBAQAhEEA8AAA/fAAAAABAAIA
This is assuming you are going to have some help. I would not bother trying to get to 30 otherwise. The PvP title(Eternal Zaishen Suppporter) can be obtained without any actual PvPing. It can also be replaced by 3 titles from consumables.
I definitely would NOT try to get Vabbian set. Just checking prices right now that comes out to 214 platinums or 214 gold in GW2. Getting gold in GW1 isn’t any easier than GW2 unless you plan on farming stuff and even then it is still more time consuming since you have to stand in town waiting for buyers.
(edited by Khisanth.2948)