Guild Wars 2

Basically what the title is. I have played a thief since launch and have had loads of fun, but am looking for something a little more viable in both commanding now that I have enough money, and fractals. I was thinking of something like a regen warrior/guardian that is basically immortal. I’ve seen a few videos of warriors doing this, and only one of a guardian, but was wondering which would be the superior class for this role.
I have both a level 30 warrior and guardian, and they are equally fun. Figured this would be the best place to avoid bias.

Warrior- Most useful, easiest and, depending on the build, strongest class in gw2.
They can contribute so much to the group if played well and they have so many different weapons and utility skills, that you’re basically ready to fight ANY other class. The high health pool is really usefull too. spam dat full health with healing signet+ regen.

Cons: You might get cc’ed really quickly if you don’t have the right traits or utility skills but if you have them, you are almost invulnerable to any condition there exists. (haha ok this is also a pro xD)

Guardian: Really beautiful skill animations. You sparkle most of the time. Is called Support character, although ele does a better job at it. Most of your cc’s can be jumped over or stability. Wide range of weapons but not each of the weapon skills are equal in terms of usefulness. Utilities if used wisely can save you from tricky situationd, but the long CD’s make them a pain in the jelly butt. BUT you will probably survive untill the cd runs out.
Cons: Guardians are extremely. EXTREMELY vulnerable to conditions due to their low health pool and crappy condition cleanses. Yea you can cleanse a lot of conditions with utility skills and the right traits (every 5 second 1 condition) but what about the other 45-60 seconds in which your utilities are on cd and you get spammed with confusion, bleeding etc?- You get yourself some nice healing power, some nice condition duration reduction from runes (you can only get melandru runes from temple vendors…all that karma…kill me.) food (the -40% is hella expensive and you only get it for 30 min) and a skill which lasts for 5 seconds, cleanses conditions and you get -33% condition duration on yourself yeap, for 5 seconds.
BTW Warrior has got the full 100% condi reduction in ONE skill great, isn’kitten So basically what you gotta do is adapt your build to conditions and sacrifice a lot of other good options and still in the end, you’re still gonna be massacred by mesmers who can spam confusion or even warrioirs with bleed builds. I like the guardian though, it’s my main but I’m slowly getting kitten ed off because I usually need to stop a duel because neither me nor my enemy can die due to my high survivability (only raw damage, conditions wreck me) and the utterly small damage

Conclusion: I’m gonna roll a tiny Asura warrior because I can. ADIOS!
P.S If someone could help me with my condition problem, I’d really appreciate that

MrKahwk is not bias at all lol.

From what i read Sierras want either a Guardian or a Warrior to be a commander and Fractals. Now this is what I will recommend you : Have 1 character for PvE and 1 for WvW. You can either keep your thief for Fractal (really useful profession) or WvW and then choose a Warrior or Guardian for the other game mode. Why use 2 characters? Well, the build, gear and playstyle are different in both. You probably gonna want to get beserker gear in PvE and Soldier gear in WvW. Trait will be different too. But also the weapons, skills and how you use them. You could also take two set of everything and change trait and skill each time you switch game mode, but well you see the problem. You can still choose one profession and one build for everything but this is not the best idea. A full healing Guardian/Warrior will be perfect in a Zerg, but will make Fractal so much longer by lack of dps (even impossible in higher fractal since there is some DPS bottleneck like in Volcano). The same thing with a Zerker Guardian/Warrior in the middle of a zerg will be vaporize.

Anyway both profession are good. Here some point to compare the two professions.
- Warrior PvE : Offensive Boons, higher DPS, really good in melee but less in range, high health pool make you strong against burst damage, but less good heal make you a bit more vulnerable in longer fight.
- Guardian PvE : Defensive Boons, Reflect (especially good in fractal), better in range but less in melee. Vulnerable against burst dps, but healing/boons/virtues give you better survivability in the long run.

- Warrior vs Guardian WvW : They can both have huge survivability. Most thing i said about them for PvE are still there for WvW except for the Burst DPS vs Long run survivability, which kinda change in WvW. Since you don’t necessarly focus on DPS like in PvE, you can fix issue for both profession (like healing shout for Warrior or Shout remove condition for Guardian, just exemple). Btw Warrior Banner is probably one of the best Elite skill for WvW, both to drastically change a fight or to revive the Lord when you defend a Keep.

To MrKahwk : I never had difficulty with condition on my Guardian and almost never use any condition removal on it (including the signet that remove condition each 10 sec). I see condition attack like normal attack. With normal attack you need to dodge, evade, blind, block, invulnerable to not lose hp. Well do the same thing with condition. You don’t have a second chance with normal attack. Once you got hit, you lose hp, so why don’t have the same attitude toward condition attack. Avoid behing hit by condition attack like you do with normal attack and you should diminish a lot the number of condition you usually have on you.

Thanks for the replies! I am going to take my warrior to 80 and see how that goes. Also, Mr Karhwk; why wouldn’t you make an Asura?

But but Q_Q am I the only one who has to fight mesmers who can daze/stun/bind me for 3 seconds and then apply hundreds of conditions? xD My whole build consists of dodges, blindness and blocking xD I think I’m just way too bad to actually see which attack the mesmer (or any other condition based professions) is going to cast. How can I if there are 5 clones attacking me simultaneously? ;(
Oh and OP xD it was not sarcasm, I love asuras and my guardian is actually one. I guess the sarcasm considering warriors made u think that everything I said is sarcastic xD Btw I chatted with someone from the enemy server in Obsidian Sanctum duelling arena. He gave me a build that works better than my current one, which was focused way too much on survivability. New build is a meditation-build-ish-build xD
you know what they say; Attack is the best defense (or whatever.)

Thaddeus.4891:

Anyway both profession are good. Here some point to compare the two professions.
- Warrior PvE : Offensive Boons, higher DPS, really good in melee but less in range, high health pool make you strong against burst damage, but less good heal make you a bit more vulnerable in longer fight.

High health pool is generally good but it does have one major drawback since we are including fractals. Agony deals damage based on a % of your health so the more health you have the more damage you’ll take but your healing doesn’t scale that way and agony also reduces your healing as well.

MrKahwk.9524:

Oh and OP xD it was not sarcasm, I love asuras and my guardian is actually one. I guess the sarcasm considering warriors made u think that everything I said is sarcastic xD

No, I know it wasn’t sarcastic. I wasn’t either, my thief is an asura, and so are both my guardian and warrior. All three of my characters are asura too.