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Posted by: Reevax.2510

Reevax.2510

The 5 mans in this game are brutal.

I don’t mind the challenge, getting smashed over and over by trash mobs. Working together to figure things out what the best way to go at things are. Stuff like that is fun.

However the repair bills are not fun. I have had some huge repair bills and I am just plain running out of money. The risk/reward of the 5 mans seems a little off.

I quest, use the TP, and try to do other things to make cash but one run in a 5 man wipes out an entire day of earnings.

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Posted by: rraymondd.9406

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So far I have been getting out of the dungeons with more cash then when I entered. And that is for first time explorations. Second (and more) runs are even better for the cashflow.

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Posted by: Nutcracker.7615

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Are you salvaging drops you find or are you using the TP to sell them or even vendor them? If you are salvaging everything that you find and wiping allot then I’m sure you will loose allot of gold.
I usually check the value of the item and if it’s worth over X I sell it if it’s worth less I salvage

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Posted by: Reevax.2510

Reevax.2510

Well there is no money to be made in the TP with 99% of drops. 1 copper over vendor people make sure of that.

I usually salvage or vendor the items I don’t need. I still end up short on a really hard run with many wipes.

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Posted by: wintermute.2047

wintermute.2047

The 5 mans in this game are brutal.

I don’t mind the challenge, getting smashed over and over by trash mobs. Working together to figure things out what the best way to go at things are. Stuff like that is fun.

However the repair bills are not fun. I have had some huge repair bills and I am just plain running out of money. The risk/reward of the 5 mans seems a little off.

I quest, use the TP, and try to do other things to make cash but one run in a 5 man wipes out an entire day of earnings.

Are you going in with a PUG or an organized group of headset wearing bros? If the former, I don’t really think you’re intended to be able to afford doing these.

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Posted by: knightblaster.8027

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Are you going in with a PUG or an organized group of headset wearing bros? If the former, I don’t really think you’re intended to be able to afford doing these.

This.

I would avoid PUGs in this game pretty much completely for dungeons.

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Posted by: wintermute.2047

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Are you going in with a PUG or an organized group of headset wearing bros? If the former, I don’t really think you’re intended to be able to afford doing these.

This.

I would avoid PUGs in this game pretty much completely for dungeons.

Exactly. They should just remove the ability to group unless you’re guilded. I think a lot of people are getting the wrong idea.

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Posted by: DippyDragon.3180

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So for a non hardcore player like me, without a headset – the rule would seem to be: GW2 dungeons are not designed for you.

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Posted by: Harkin.2160

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So for a non hardcore player like me, without a headset – the rule would seem to be: GW2 dungeons are not designed for you.

Nobody is stopping you from joining a guild and buying a $20 headset. That’s on you. Welcome to modern gaming!

My fiancee is in a guild with a headset and she plays no more than 5 hours a week.

Sounds more like you’re just making excuses to complain?

The repair bills can be a bit high, but as you play through the dungeons and learn them you’ll die less. My last group died plenty of times against that explorable melee boss in catacombs that does the group pull + whirlwind until we learned the timing, then we plowed through him, barely being caught in the attack.

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Posted by: wintermute.2047

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So for a non hardcore player like me, without a headset – the rule would seem to be: GW2 dungeons are not designed for you.

Right. Sure, it sucks having to listen to a bunch of strangers go on and on about random real life crap (especially if you join a guild with a bunch of real life friends, or a guild from previous games). VOIP sucks **** in so many ways and is an annoyance. However, if you want to do instances, suck it up and join in.

Effectively, group content is the new raid content. Not sure if that’s a good thing, LOL.

Like the mouth breather above said, even his “girl friend” can do it, so certainly you can too.

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Posted by: fingis.2867

fingis.2867

I stopped repairing my armor and now do dungeons naked. I’ve saved a forturne. If anyone asks why I’m naked, I tell them it’s a bug.

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Posted by: Wormfodder.2051

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I salvage cloth and leather items, vendor the rest unless it has a sigil upgrade on it.

Whether the glass is half empty or half full, there is still only half there.

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Posted by: everreal.9862

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I stopped repairing my armor and now do dungeons naked. I’ve saved a forturne. If anyone asks why I’m naked, I tell them it’s a bug.

This one made me chuckle.
But from what I have experienced, this games dungeons can be really frustrated when running with a group, even a guilded group but your not communicating during or before fights on what exactly needs to go on. Sure you can try and work it all out before with in game chat, but VOIP is really the best way to go. I only jump on vent in my guild when going into a dungeon or a tournament.

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Posted by: Kinto.9485

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I’m at school at the moment, so I cannot show you all the exact proof of profit but, if you are doing the dungeon properly, you should be making 50+ silver per run. Depending on how your group is set up, you can complete each run ~40 minutes with no deaths.

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I would have more, but I keep giving my money out to guildies so they can craft/buy trait books. Just the end boss and chest alone provide 30 silver alone, not including the extra money you can make from NPCing the rest of the junk equipment/items.

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Posted by: BlueprintLFE.2358

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I’m at school at the moment, so I cannot show you all the exact proof of profit but, if you are doing the dungeon properly, you should be making 50+ silver per run. Depending on how your group is set up, you can complete each run ~40 minutes with no deaths.

Screenshot of my inventory

I would have more, but I keep giving my money out to guildies so they can craft/buy trait books. Just the end boss and chest alone provide 30 silver alone, not including the extra money you can make from NPCing the rest of the junk equipment/items.

Jw what’s up with the 1k health in that pic? That an alt or something? 7 gold on a toon with 1k health!

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Posted by: knightblaster.8027

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I’m at school at the moment, so I cannot show you all the exact proof of profit but, if you are doing the dungeon properly, you should be making 50+ silver per run. Depending on how your group is set up, you can complete each run ~40 minutes with no deaths.

Screenshot of my inventory

I would have more, but I keep giving my money out to guildies so they can craft/buy trait books. Just the end boss and chest alone provide 30 silver alone, not including the extra money you can make from NPCing the rest of the junk equipment/items.

Jw what’s up with the 1k health in that pic? That an alt or something? 7 gold on a toon with 1k health!

Downleveled.

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Posted by: GeneralBlueBees.9341

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Original Post, How are you speced? Do you have any toughness or vitality? What are your utility skills? Do you have any condition removal? Vigor? Stability? Heals?

You need these things in dungeons… Sometimes one person doing a little bit of everything! Nobody can build glass cannon in this game. Its not WoW. It works differently. Everyone can tank (Not for long tho :P ) and everyone can heal. Capitalize on that. Guardian “walls”, snares, knockbacks, knockdowns, stuns, revives. These all make dungeons much easier and much more fun. Except thosekittenvolatile blossoms…. Nothing can make those fun……

( I have finished 2 full exploratory modes, Not bragging, just saying its not impossible)