Guild Wars 2

My experience without death part of the monthly has been stuck at 21k forever.

Does it reset if you down?

Does it reset if you Waypoint?

Does it reset if you go into WvWvW?

Does it reset if you get downed or killed by a PC?

Anyone know?

As far as i know, survivor title is kinda buggy, the all time survivor is not counting your progress at all and the monthly one suffers from some odd behaviors :

It does not reset when you down, you got to have the way point pop up to consider it a death. Anyway, the best way to know is to use the /deaths commands, if the count increased then you died.

So back to the bugs, from personnal experience and what i read on some forums, using waypoint and changing map might cause your progress to reset.

Sadly since the /deaths command doesn’t show your current xp count without dying and the monthly survivor keeps only track of your current best score at it. The only moment you can notice it is when you’re counting your experience yourself…

So until fixed, the best way to achieve this title is to get the needed experience in a single map without using overflow or waypoint travel at all. This way, nothing can accidentaly reset your progress.

Some advices to do it easily.
1) Experience for the title is 100k no matter what, but you’ll get more and more experience from events when you’ll be at a higher level. For the record, 100k experience can be done in less than an hour in WvW with a lvl 80 char(experience is ranging from 3-10 to 50-60k per objective taken so… )
2) Events are usually the best way to get nice xp gain, however, group event are dangerous don’t do them if you’re not with a decent amount of players. Some bosses can be really deadly.
That leads me to 3)
3) If you can, level up with friends, being downed is okay, as long as you can get back on your feet in time. Having mates can be worthful at those times !
4) Falls, they hurt, really bad. You should have a trait that should reduce by half damage taken from falling, that could be useful. But still, avoid jumping from cliffs, it’s really the dumbest way to lose your progress.
5) Adjust your build accordingly. Pack any damage mitigation skills your might have if you’re not comfortable with your standard build. You might or might have much options in this area depending of your class, but there’s still a way. Also, adjust your playstyle. IIRC, every class got some long range weapon, better go kiting than trying to melee every mob crossing your way.

tl;dr : Survivor is a bit buggy, do it in one time on a single map. If you wanna do it easy, do it at high level and with friends and play safe !

Take 10 minutes and craft some stuff, discovering a ton of recipes. That’s how I got it after several times forgetting that I am trying to achieve 100k xp without dying and jumping off the Rata Sum Cube lol.

Down is not dead. You’re not actually dead till you get the WP re-spawn button.

It currently resets anytime you enter an overflow map. So do it all in one place, don’t go to different zones.

I was unaware crafting counted, I can do that.

So it has to be done all on the same character and in the same zone? Ugh -.-

Cluisanna.1360:

So it has to be done all on the same character and in the same zone? Ugh -.-

Yes, and on the same server. So don’t be on the overflow then move to the live server when you’re trying to do it. (Also, don’t log out.)

Maaaan seriously? This is like – exactly the opposite of arenanets philosophy, isn’t it? Forcing players to mindlessly grind in the same zone for hours at a time, building up more and more frustration? Come one, that can’t be how this is intended to work?!
My pc just crashed as I was around 60k ep… not for the first time. I didn’t even dieeee
I spent the last eight hours trying to get this (dying several times because foolish me thought she should help people…) Now I have to start over?

There are definitely mesmers working at Anet. They get joy from your misery. Let’s not forget the old cartography, which was so tedious I couldn’t do it without helper apps.

Last month’s Monthly Survivor took me less than 3 hours, albeit after a couple stressful days of not dying until I found out not to change zones or logout. This month’s took 90 minutes. It’s faster if you have high level zones to explore and experience boosters.

SirUrza.8067:

Cluisanna.1360:

So it has to be done all on the same character and in the same zone? Ugh -.-

Yes, and on the same server. So don’t be on the overflow then move to the live server when you’re trying to do it. (Also, don’t log out.)

Ugh, well that explains why my experience bar for that monthly hasn’t moved at all. That is extremely frustrating, especially after going from level 40-49 without dying at all and expecting that to work. :/

I can understand the no zoning out or using Way Points for it to reset…as you’re trying to Survive the world/Area you’re in…but the logging out must be a bug. It is exactly as Cluisanna said, it must go against ANets philosophy. Because there’s nothing wrong with low level character wanting to achieve it through out their adventure…over the course of 10,20,30 levels. I know it would make me feel like i’ve really survived everything that was dished out at me.

What bothers me the most is that people have been talking about this achievement for the past 2 weeks on several sites and forums (and here) and we have yet to hear a word from ANet to explain if it’s a bug, something their looking at changing or at least confirming that it is what it is and get over it kind of statement…

Just my 2 cents.

Thanks

kelborno.6321:

I can understand the no zoning out or using Way Points for it to reset…as you’re trying to Survive the world/Area you’re in…but the logging out must be a bug. It is exactly as Cluisanna said, it must go against ANets philosophy. Because there’s nothing wrong with low level character wanting to achieve it through out their adventure…over the course of 10,20,30 levels. I know it would make me feel like i’ve really survived everything that was dished out at me.

That doesn’t really make sense – after all, you can’t stay for 30 levels in one zone, so you’d have to change the zone.

Cluisanna.1360:

That doesn’t really make sense – after all, you can’t stay for 30 levels in one zone, so you’d have to change the zone.

It’s not quite as daft as it sounds. This one was giving me some trouble before I understood how it worked. Yes, you can’t leave the zone; yes downed isn’t defeated, so you don’t reset the deed for that; no, it doesn’t take 30 levels.

Have you noticed that, as is fairly normal for games, the experience you gain rises progressively in the higher level areas, and the amount you need per level is also? Once you’re in the mid-60’s, it’s 7-10K per event completion, 500-odd per gather, XP boosters, et al… Basically, don’t panic!! You’re looking at about 80K per level in the mid 60’s. Undefeated for less than a level & a half in one high-level zone is not so unreasonable, is it? The mistake you’re making (as I did), is to be expecting to do it in the lower levels…

Archaeneoso.8461:

My experience without death part of the monthly has been stuck at 21k forever.

Does it reset if you down?

Does it reset if you Waypoint?

Does it reset if you go into WvWvW?

Does it reset if you get downed or killed by a PC?

Anyone know?

Down = no
waypoint = no
wvwvw = no (though this is a really bad idea….)
downed by pc = no
killed by pc = death.

It resets on death for sure, as in “travel to waypoint” death. And it also possibly resets on logging out.
Easiest way to get it is to bulk craft with discoveries. if not that then just jump in a zone a few levels back and spend an hour runnign round doing DEs, play it safe and it wont take long.

despite what is said above, yes you can leave the zone.

(I assume loging out resetting it on occasion is a bug, as it weird a monthly achv requires a single play sitting)

I disagree, Cam. I went through about 2.5 levels in the 50’s (so 125K+ xp) and failed to achieve the 75K deed, never mind the 100K. A logout definitely resets it. I’m also pretty certain that leaving the zone does too, however you do it. Since I never logged out, this would be the only conceivable reason why I would have missed the achievement.

Whatever is the truth, I would like to point out that this is either or both a badly designed / badly explained achievement that will confuse a lot of players. Anet – please make clearer what is actually expected.