Is this how condition damage works?

Is this how condition damage works?

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Posted by: awe extender.1908

awe extender.1908

Q:

I found these equations on the wiki about condition damage:
Burning:
8 + (4 * Level) + (0.25 * Condition Damage)
Level 80: 328
Poison:
4 + Level + (0.1 * Condition Damage)
Level 80: 84
Bleeding:
2.5 + (0.5 * Level) + (0.05 * Condition Damage)
Level 80: 43

Does this mean that if you have e.g. 1300 in condition damage you get:

Burn damage = (8+(4*328)+(0.25*1300)) = 1645 per second

Poison damage = (4+84+(0.1*1300)) = 218 per second

Bleed damage = (2.5+(0.5*43)+(0.05*1300)) = 89 per second per stack

So if u get 25 stacks of bleed, you deal 89*25 = 2225 damage per sec.

I also understand that poison and bleed only stack in duration. So when you e.g. use the Bonfire (Burn)8 , you get 8 seconds of fire. Right?
So total burn damage must be: 1645*8 = 13160. Is this correct, or did i get it wrong? It seems to high?!

I don’t understand the sign and numbering of the icons. E.g. Combustive Shot : You have a little number 3 next to burn icon and also it says 2 seconds. Duration says 4 seconds. How do you understand these?

The wiki say that the duration can be extended only if you get whole seconds.
Eg. If you have 3 seconds of bleed and u get 30% duration you get: (3*30) /1003 = 3.9 sec. But in reality you end up with the same 3 seconds and not more?!!?
But if the bleed was 4 seconds and u got +30% duration, you got 5.2 seconds. In reality you would gain 1 extra second; total 5 seconds. Is that correct?

Final question:

Regarding superior rune of the mad king:

It says +10% condition duration and +15% bleed duration.
Does this mean that you get a total of +25% bleed duration? Since bleed is condition?

And does this ad to the +30% condition duration from trait tree? A total +40% condition duration and a +55% bleed duration?

I hope you guys and / or Anet can shed some light on the questions!

Cheers

Is this how condition damage works?

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Posted by: Smirgel.9460

Smirgel.9460

Well I can only say that the skill Bonfire inflicts only 1s of burning at a time, but the skill lasts for 8s so if someone is standing right on top of the fire circle then it does 13k+ damage (and 8s of burning in total).

Is this how condition damage works?

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Posted by: Zid.4196

Zid.4196

Does this mean that if you have e.g. 1300 in condition damage you get:

Burn damage = (8+(4*328)+(0.25*1300)) = 1645 per second

Poison damage = (4+84+(0.1*1300)) = 218 per second

Bleed damage = (2.5+(0.5*43)+(0.05*1300)) = 89 per second per stack

You get 328+(.25*1300) = 653, 84+(0.1*1300) = 214, and 42.5+(0.05*1300) = 107.5.

I don’t understand the sign and numbering of the icons.

Best disregard the tooltips. In theory, they try to calculate stacks*duration*damage in one fat number.

The wiki say that the duration can be extended only if you get whole seconds.
Eg. If you have 3 seconds of bleed and u get 30% duration you get: (3*30) /1003 = 3.9 sec. But in reality you end up with the same 3 seconds and not more?!!?
But if the bleed was 4 seconds and u got +30% duration, you got 5.2 seconds. In reality you would gain 1 extra second; total 5 seconds. Is that correct?

No.

Extensive testing reveals fractional duration increases result in a proportionate chance for extra damage tick. This is very easily confirmed with 1 sec burn and a veggie pizza. However, many duration increasing effects don’t stack or don’t work at all.

Regarding superior rune of the mad king:

It says +10% condition duration and +15% bleed duration.
Does this mean that you get a total of +25% bleed duration? Since bleed is condition?

And does this ad to the +30% condition duration from trait tree? A total +40% condition duration and a +55% bleed duration?

Again, nobody knows what was ANet’s intent; the reality must be tested because so many duration increasing effects won’t stack/work as advertised.

Is this how condition damage works?

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Posted by: awe extender.1908

awe extender.1908

thanks for the replies :-)

Though I hope Anet would clarify some more??!! Are you there Anet?