action combat made mmos better lol
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PC for max settings
Buy a CPU with the highest single core performance you can afford. Buy any current NVIDIA graphics card at all.
Still won’t get 60fps everywhere, but you should be fairly close most of the time. The limitation will be the single core CPU performance.
“Max” settings as in everything maxed out isn’t possible even on many high end PCs in crowded settings due to game limitations though certainly high fps outside of zergs is guaranteed on pretty much any new hardware. If you’re willing to turn down character model limit though, you don’t need too high end to get high settings— outside of that Gw2 isn’t that demanding of a game.
What you will actually get depends on the following
*Your budget.
*What other things you do on your computer (eg other games, opening 50 browser tabs in the background)
*Monitor Resolution (1080p, 1440p, etc)
Typically, folks recommend an I5 processor, being a quad core. The cool story is that Gw2 uses one core mainly, and uses up to 3 a bit. So naturally you want a fast core, and at least 3 cores. There aren’t any 3 core processors so…. 4 core it is.
So Quad core tends to be the best spot. I7s are quad cores that emulate up to 8 but as you can see here, that really doesn’t help if Gw2 only cares about 3. I3s are dual cores that can emulate up to 4, but that’s still not as good as having four real cores. (So it’s not just about fast cores, even though those i3s are often running faster but they’re still quite formidable regardless) As you’d expect the i5 quad core is in the ideal spot, and also isn’t as expensive as the i7s. I3s aren’t as good but they’re still pretty fast and will do the job.
Tl;dr I5-6500, i5-7500 are the typical options, I5-6600k and I5-7600k are more expensive options for overclocking and more power.
As for cards any new card released in the last year is fine. Starting with AMD’s Rx 460 and Nvidia’s GTX 1050— the later is a bit better but the AMD one is so cheap to pass up. For even more power there are the RX 470 or RX 480, or GTX 1060, but the AMD RXs are more cost effective atm. These cards run Gw2 while sleeping (and so can many older cards) so I think it is overkill to spend too much on a GPU for gw2 only.
tl;dr: Modern I5 processor, For GPUs below $300, AMD is generally the better choice but I do believe pricing is different in places so go with whatever is cheaper when you deal with equivalent cards. Getting an AMD card will also allow you to benefit from a Freesync monitor which is much more affordable than Nvidia’s equivalent thingy.
I’m not shilling for AMD at all. I have a GTX 1060 and it is great but looking back to it, AMD would have been the better buy in my location.
As a small warning, I would stay away from the 3gb version of the 1060. (Get the 6gb version or if you want to save money, buy one of the cheaper RX 470/480) It’s not really too big of a deal right now, and doesn’t really affect Gw2, but it may matter if you play other games in the future.
Example: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TJCfCy
If you are low budget, you may consider the new Pentium G4560 which is amazingly enough is almost as good as a Core I3 processor. (This is usually not the case) Example: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W6VsxY May not be the best in the world, but for a low price, you still will get things looking good and still better than not having a computer at all.
Ideally, if you had the money you’d go for “K” processor that can overclock. This will maximize your experience for Gw2 due to it requiring a good CPU and overclocking a strong CPU. However, this requires a better cooler and motherboard: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d4hRyf
Warning: These are just examples. Apparently they’re a bit dated. I won’t be held responsible for actual prices/compatibility.
Also, at this rate I recommend waiting a little more, as AMD is releasing new Ryzen Quad core chips that may prove to be very suitable for your needs.
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
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thanks for your replies, basically i have a i5 core that i tried to upgrade but my pc for some reason wont accept a different graphics card and im stuck with a GT530 because its a brand pc so im aiming for at least an i5 again but this time custom.
from what i understand a modern i-5 with a GTX1050 gpu will be more than enough.
action combat made mmos better lol
Ah, prebuilts can be a pain to upgrade since some just aren’t designed for that due to non-standard sizes. (Or maybe because) Then again, given how many of them have questionable power supplies, it may not be a good idea to put expensive parts in them anyways. If you’re going to buy another prebuilt, if they can’t tell you speciifcally what PSU it is, do not buy it. Unless you like stuff exploding next to you (I have experience!)
In that case you pretty much have to upgrade. Perhaps you can salvage the drives.
And yes, you are more or less correct. I5 + 1050 is good. Feel free to link whatever you actually buy here. It’ll definitely be a massive upgrade over the gt 530.
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
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he actually changed power supply and then tried 3 different brands of 750ti but none worked.
thankfully he gave me my money back.
what im aiming is called innovator 5 extreme gamer 6400 not sure if its considered a prebuild or custom.
guess ill ask there if it can be upgraded in the future if i want to or its closed like a brand PC.
i had no idea brand PC`s cant be upgraded before buying one.
action combat made mmos better lol
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If you don’t mind building your own rig I would suggest Newegg and take these recommendations and build out a wish list.. I personally went i7, 32GB of RAM, and a Pascal 1080 and it hums along quite nicely… GW2 is much more CPU constrained than Video Card constrained…
he actually changed power supply and then tried 3 different brands of 750ti but none worked.
thankfully he gave me my money back.
what im aiming is called innovator 5 extreme gamer 6400 not sure if its considered a prebuild or custom.guess ill ask there if it can be upgraded in the future if i want to or its closed like a brand PC.
i had no idea brand PC`s cant be upgraded before buying one.
Depends on the brand. The big companies that churn them out like Dell or HP generally don’t have much customization, but the custom PC brands (yea, they’re prebuilt too but are more focused on putting in custom parts) tend to use standard parts though sometimes customized a bit. But everything is different. Although there are some things like hard drives/SSDs that are unlikely to be so oddball that you can’t upgrade them. But yea, if you can’t even get a 750ti in there, there’s just no hope.
Usually the later tend to be rather specific in listing their parts, while the big brands just are incredibly vague. For example, alienware has “Alienware™ 460 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply” ??? and then for $100 you can upgrade to another approved 850w supply. Unless someone actually knows what that is, I’d stay far away.
I looked up INNOVATOR 5 EXTREME GAMER 6400 but couldn’t find anything in English. From Chrome’s translate it doesn’t seem too bad though you may want to try upping to a bigger SSD (more than 200 GB) though not mandatory. The i5-6400 isn’t as ideal as the 6500 but it’ll work pretty good. I don’t know what that PSU is though.
Edit: Using this for refrence: http://www.e-shop.gr/innovator-5-extreme-gamer-6400-xoris-leitoyrgiko-p-PER.912848
http://www.e-shop.gr/innovator-7-advanced-7700-me-windows-10-p-PER.912154
If you want to spend a bit more, it looks like “INNOVATOR 7 ADVANCED 7700 – ?? WINDOWS 10” would be a good choice if you need Windows. Normally wouldn’t recommend the I7, but since the computer you brought up doesn’t have Windows, I figured it’d be a good part to brought up and the 7700 is somewhat faster than the 6400 and they’re charging more for stuff in between. If you don’t need windows I’d stick with the 6400.
They don’t seem to offer any SSDs above 120 gb without a huge bump in the price though.
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
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he actually changed power supply and then tried 3 different brands of 750ti but none worked.
thankfully he gave me my money back.
what im aiming is called innovator 5 extreme gamer 6400 not sure if its considered a prebuild or custom.guess ill ask there if it can be upgraded in the future if i want to or its closed like a brand PC.
i had no idea brand PC`s cant be upgraded before buying one.Depends on the brand. The big companies that churn them out like Dell or HP generally don’t have much customization, but the custom PC brands (yea, they’re prebuilt too but are more focused on putting in custom parts) tend to use standard parts though sometimes customized a bit. But everything is different. Although there are some things like hard drives/SSDs that are unlikely to be so oddball that you can’t upgrade them. But yea, if you can’t even get a 750ti in there, there’s just no hope.
Usually the later tend to be rather specific in listing their parts, while the big brands just are incredibly vague. For example, alienware has “Alienware™ 460 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply” ??? and then for $100 you can upgrade to another approved 850w supply. Unless someone actually knows what that is, I’d stay far away.
I looked up INNOVATOR 5 EXTREME GAMER 6400 but couldn’t find anything in English. From Chrome’s translate it doesn’t seem too bad though you may want to try upping to a bigger SSD (more than 200 GB) though not mandatory. The i5-6400 isn’t as ideal as the 6500 but it’ll work pretty good. I don’t know what that PSU is though.
ohh my bad didnt know it doesnt have any feedback in English then it must be store exclusive computer .
the most unknown brand is actually better i guess ,yes my computer atm is HP already upgraded to SSD and also upgraded the ram, but the door slammed in my face when i tried to upgrade the gpu.
the psu is 650W btw.
also i just discovered that i can build a pc as i want from that shop and also has ryzen processor to pick for 319 euros.
will that processor be reliable and good for gw2?
the only amd computer i had was a long time ago and it was really noisy and eventually died from overheating so dont know if i can trust that brand again.
action combat made mmos better lol
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he actually changed power supply and then tried 3 different brands of 750ti but none worked.
thankfully he gave me my money back.
what im aiming is called innovator 5 extreme gamer 6400 not sure if its considered a prebuild or custom.guess ill ask there if it can be upgraded in the future if i want to or its closed like a brand PC.
i had no idea brand PC`s cant be upgraded before buying one.Depends on the brand. The big companies that churn them out like Dell or HP generally don’t have much customization, but the custom PC brands (yea, they’re prebuilt too but are more focused on putting in custom parts) tend to use standard parts though sometimes customized a bit. But everything is different. Although there are some things like hard drives/SSDs that are unlikely to be so oddball that you can’t upgrade them. But yea, if you can’t even get a 750ti in there, there’s just no hope.
Usually the later tend to be rather specific in listing their parts, while the big brands just are incredibly vague. For example, alienware has “Alienware™ 460 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply” ??? and then for $100 you can upgrade to another approved 850w supply. Unless someone actually knows what that is, I’d stay far away.
I looked up INNOVATOR 5 EXTREME GAMER 6400 but couldn’t find anything in English. From Chrome’s translate it doesn’t seem too bad though you may want to try upping to a bigger SSD (more than 200 GB) though not mandatory. The i5-6400 isn’t as ideal as the 6500 but it’ll work pretty good. I don’t know what that PSU is though.
ohh my bad didnt know it doesnt have any feedback in English then it must be store exclusive computer .
the most unknown brand is actually better i guess ,yes my computer atm is HP already upgraded to SSD and also upgraded the ram, but the door slammed in my face when i tried to upgrade the gpu.the psu is 650W btw.
also i just discovered that i can build a pc as i want from that shop and also has ryzen processor to pick for 319 euros.
will that processor be reliable and good for gw2?
the only amd computer i had was a long time ago and it was really noisy and eventually died from overheating so dont know if i can trust that brand again.
Oh, I was editing my post after your reply! In case you missed
Edit: Using this for refrence: http://www.e-shop.gr/innovator-5-extreme-gamer-6400-xoris-leitoyrgiko-p-PER.912848
http://www.e-shop.gr/innovator-7-advanced-7700-me-windows-10-p-PER.912154
If you want to spend a bit more, it looks like “INNOVATOR 7 ADVANCED 7700 – ?? WINDOWS 10” would be a good choice if you need Windows. Normally wouldn’t recommend the I7, but since the computer you brought up doesn’t have Windows, I figured it’d be a good part to brought up and the 7700 is somewhat faster than the 6400 and they’re charging more for stuff in between. If you don’t need windows I’d stick with the 6400.
They don’t seem to offer any SSDs above 120 gb without a huge bump in the price though.
I wouldn’t fault AMD necessarily. Even good brands of stuff can screw up and computers can have many problems— typically overheating is related to the build itself though I do believe there’s a meme about AMD running hotter— shouldn’t melt a properly maintained system though (Make sure to get the dust out from time to time.
Well, if the store allows you to build your own (is a physical store or online?) you could use those pcpartpicker links I gave above and see what most closely matches it. I wouldn’t get Ryzen 7 atm, though you may wait to want for the cheaper Ryzen 5,
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
The likely reason you can’t upgrade the GPU is because the motherboard BIOS needs to be updated. Unfortunately this is one of the reasons for avoiding branded PCs – in the long term – as the vendors are much less likely to doubleback to older PCs to provide an BIOS update for newer GPUs. This is less so with motherboard vendors.
You should therefore consider the option of just replacing your existing motherboard, if no BIOS update is available. However it is fair to say there is more risk involved in doing this as branded PCs tend to be hyper-tuned to the level of making significant changes difficult.
My advice would be to go over to PCPartPicker and select the best AM4 motherboard platform for gaming. In all likelihood the new AMD R5 processors due in a few weeks will max GW2 out on the CPU side and from experience there is little worth in going higher than a RX-470 for GW2.
I am willing to bet that a R5-1400 + RX-460 will come very close to being the optimum spent-for-performance for GW2 in the future – I suspect you’ll get very close to max settings and 60Hz(when possible) at 1080p.
Some brand motherbands simply can’t fit a graphics card in due to nonstandard design, I’ve found out the hard way. Though I guess it doesn’t matter why; they just weren’t designed to be upgraded.
If you’re going to upgrade the motherboard, you might as well upgrade the whole thing. The card is too old, the ram is most likely DDr3. I would not trust the PSU with it, and the case itself might be nonstandard too. A good case isn’t very expensive and all we have left would basically be drives that you could definitely take with you. You are better off starting from scratch and hand the existing computer to someone that needs one.
R5 should be good, but until benchmarks come out, I can’t recommend it just yet.
My advice would be to go over to PCPartPicker and select the best AM4 motherboard platform for gaming.
Please be careful with advice like this. People might go to the store, ask for a great “gaming” motherboard and get directed to some $200 motherboard with crossfire/sli that they aren’t going to do anyways.
From the looks of it though, it would seem the b350 motherboards are the best bet, being affordable and also having the ability to overclock while still being cheaper than the Z series counterparts. It’d be safer when stuff gets tried and tested with more reviewers though.
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
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From the looks of it though, it would seem the b350 motherboards are the best bet, being affordable and also having the ability to overclock while still being cheaper than the Z series counterparts. It’d be safer when stuff gets tried and tested with more reviewers though.
B350 use kittenty sound and network chips. Its not a gamers board unless you plan to fill the expansion slots with extras. It doesnt really matter if x370 boards has sli/crossfire, you are gonna get that whether you want to or not (on B350 as well). If you dont want that a fully featured X370 mATX/ITX board like Intel has would be ideal but unfortunetly AMD and motherboard manufacturers has apparently said kitten you we aint gonna make it. Only heard of one mythical mATX X370 board thats still nowhere to be seen.
From the looks of it though, it would seem the b350 motherboards are the best bet, being affordable and also having the ability to overclock while still being cheaper than the Z series counterparts. It’d be safer when stuff gets tried and tested with more reviewers though.
B350 use kittenty sound and network chips. Its not a gamers board unless you plan to fill the expansion slots with extras. It doesnt really matter if x370 boards has sli/crossfire, you are gonna get that whether you want to or not (on B350 as well). If you dont want that a fully featured X370 mATX/ITX board like Intel has would be ideal but unfortunetly AMD and motherboard manufacturers has apparently said kitten you we aint gonna make it. Only heard of one mythical mATX X370 board thats still nowhere to be seen.
Well, that’s something to take note of if b350 isn’t worth buying.
My point was just being directed to a “gamer” motherboard (of which that name gets slapped on so much) which makes one pay prices at a premium for features that might not need.
And that’s a problem here. If the only good choices are that expensive— that would sort of defeat the purpose of the lower ryzen chips even if they’re better than the intel ones.
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
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