I’d like to get some better runes for my Guardian, Thief and Engineer for doing fractals/dungeons, but a lot of the zerker gear I have is karma and thus can’t be salvaged and the runes would be lost. Currently I’m using ruby orbs but I heard those really suck now so I was wondering if there were some mid-price alternative that would be better than ruby orbs but not expensive like strength/hoelbrak. I don’t really run dungeons that frequently so I don’t want to put that much gold down for this kind of thing.
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
Haven’t tested so not 100% sure of how good they are but I’ve seen Flame Legion runes recommended for guards and engies as a low-cost alternative, if you can keep up the burning.
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If you are unwilling to “commit” to those armor sets (paying for runes that you will never get back), stick with the Orbs (they are not that bad…..just worse than what they used to be).
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Use Scholar runes. Because of the Ferocity nerf, Ruby Orbs are abysmally bad now. Scholar Runes are craftable for roughly 4g right now, and 24g for a set of armor you might never recover really isn’t that bad if you use it a lot. These are also much cheaper than Strength/Hoelbrak, and are way better for general purpose dungeons.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. It wouldn’t be a problem if I didn’t have to gear across 3 characters or if the runes could be salvaged, though in reality it’s certain reasonable to think they’ll pay for themselves before I get ascended anyways. Though I mostly see dungeons as a source of gold and isn’t my main interest.
Scholar Runes seems to be a pretty good goal though. For flame legion I know that guardians can get good burn uptime with virtue of justice, but where are engineers getting it from? The fire bomb?
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
For a DPS guardian and thief, ruby orbs are a terrible choice now, with Flame legion runes even worse.
You do not need runes of strength/hoelbrak with these classes unless playing solo with no other source of might, plus you need sigils of strengh and/or battle in your weapons to make these runes worthwhile.
If looking for DPS runes these are good choices in descending order:
Scholar
Ranger
Eagle
Hmm, yea incendiary powder is a good trait, but that seems to be more for condition builds; I usually take the trait for 10% more explosion damage, not sure if that’s the best.
As for ranger runes; I do have them… on my ranger. The other classes don’t seem to be able to take advantage of the companion bonus.
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
As for ranger runes; I do have them… on my ranger. The other classes don’t seem to be able to take advantage of the companion bonus.
The 6th bonus triggers as long as you have a Minipet equipped and showing. Ofc this might get changes somewhen in the future, but for now it’s the reason why Sup Ranger Runes are suggested as a cheap alternative for DPS builds.
Fire bomb burns for 2s x 4 pulses, with a cooldown of 10s. If that’s not enough you have the flamethrower and its tool belt skill to increase the burn uptime.
Ranger runes will also count minis as pets, so if you have a couple lying around that can be good.
Joran Blackgear – Engineer – EU | Juras Blackpowder – Engineer – NA
Fire bomb burns for 2s x 4 pulses, with a cooldown of 10s. If that’s not enough you have the flamethrower and its tool belt skill to increase the burn uptime.
Ranger runes will also count minis as pets, so if you have a couple lying around that can be good.
And if thats not enough, you can trait for incendiary amo (6s burn on crit, 10s cooldown)
(Reset indent) Recent tests confirm that the bonus is applied for any type of summons, including minis, those summoned from gizmos (e.g. Summon Familiar (bat), etc. The only one I’m not sure about it is if it still doesn’t work for minions (or if it’s different in PvP altogether). Please update both this article and Rune of the Ranger if/when someone has new data (or ANet decides that some of these shouldn’t count). – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 02:29, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
I tested quickly in HoTM post-Feature Pack 2 and was able to trigger the bonus from clones + phantasms, but not from miniatures.--TahiriVeila (talk) 23:21, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the speedy test results. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 23:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
