Sigil of Air & Sigil of Fire - Shared CD?

Sigil of Air & Sigil of Fire - Shared CD?

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Posted by: Kibbles.9813

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Quick question, do the Sigil of Fire and Sigil of Air share an internal CD of any sort, or would it actually be beneficial to use them together in a Main Hand / Off Hand combination?

Also, would the Off Hand Sigil’s trigger depend on the type of attack used? Specifically for a Sword / Dagger Thief, would the OH Sigil only proc on Dancing Dagger and C&D critical hits?

Thanks in advance!

Kynn Snagtooth [TCFM] – Tarnished Coast

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Posted by: Kibbles.9813

Kibbles.9813

After a bit of quick sPvP testing for anyone else wondering the same thing:

  • The Lightning Strike (Air) and Flame Blast (Fire) both proc on Main Hand (Sword) auto attacks, so it’s not dependent on the weapon you have the Sigil on.
  • They do share a CD of some sort, since I never got them both to proc at the same time. The internal CD seems to be 3 seconds, but I can’t confirm this for sure.
  • Since it seems to calculate the activation of a Sigil of Air and Fire on a Crit separately (resulting in either a Flame Blast or a Lightning Strike, never exclusively one or the other), it’s probably safe to assume that you have a 30% chance of each to proc, increasing your overall proc rate.

This is good if you don’t care about which Sigil goes off when, but if you’re looking for consistency on only one effect, you’ll actually decrease your odds of that one going off in favor of the other. Since Air only deals around 50 more damage than Fire and has no AoE, it comes down to this:

  • If you attack nothing but single targets, Air / Fire is worth it (since Air / Air doesn’t increase the proc chance) for the increased odds of getting either to go off.
  • If in any scenario you are hitting more than one thing, you’d be reducing your potential damage with Air / Fire since you lose out on the Fire AoE damage proc completely if Air goes off until the CD resets.

Hope that helps others who are curious as well. Feel free to correct me on any of this if necessary.

Kynn Snagtooth [TCFM] – Tarnished Coast

(edited by Kibbles.9813)

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Posted by: Lord Aargadon.4135

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If you have a sigil that has a cooldown, such as sigil of air, when the effect activates, the cooldown prevents any other non passive sigil from activating for the duration.

If you have same sigils, two sigils of air, instead of 60% chance of activation on crit for each wep or 120/100% combined, the chance is seperate for each one.

E.G. 1# you have two weps both with sigil of air, you get crit, 60% for first weapon sigil fails, second one passes, sigil activates and both are put on 5 sec cooldown.

2&3# Sigil of energy and air, you switch weapons, activating sigil o energy, you gain 50% endurance and both sigils are put on sigil of energys 9 sec cooldown.
Air activates, putting both on airs 5 sec cooldown

4# Sigil of force and sigil of air, Air activates, is put on cooldown, but you will still benifit the 5% dmg increase even through cooldown.

tl;dr. Any sigil that has an activation will not activate while a cooldown is still up, but any passive effect will stay working, and any sigil on mainhand will trigger before offhand if both are activates.

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Posted by: Hot Boy.7138

Hot Boy.7138

If you have a sigil that has a cooldown, such as sigil of air, when the effect activates, the cooldown prevents any other non passive sigil from activating for the duration.

If you have same sigils, two sigils of air, instead of 60% chance of activation on crit for each wep or 120/100% combined, the chance is seperate for each one.

E.G. 1# you have two weps both with sigil of air, you get crit, 60% for first weapon sigil fails, second one passes, sigil activates and both are put on 5 sec cooldown.

2&3# Sigil of energy and air, you switch weapons, activating sigil o energy, you gain 50% endurance and both sigils are put on sigil of energys 9 sec cooldown.
Air activates, putting both on airs 5 sec cooldown

4# Sigil of force and sigil of air, Air activates, is put on cooldown, but you will still benifit the 5% dmg increase even through cooldown.

tl;dr. Any sigil that has an activation will not activate while a cooldown is still up, but any passive effect will stay working, and any sigil on mainhand will trigger before offhand if both are activates.

I was just googling this. Thanks for the info, saved me a lot of time having to look elsewhere because I was thinking of using sigil of energy and air together.

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Posted by: kokocabana.8153

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