Guild Wars 2

Okay basically. In PvP mainly, the thief down state is absolutely useless. The invisibility doesn’t even stealth you for enough time for the enemy to turn around and walk away. Literally all it does is stop them from delivering the killing blow for a couple for seconds. The shadow step ability is fine but you can’t move very far and you can’t do it in stealth so it’s pretty useless. The only thing the teleport skill is good for is getting out of high aggro areas when you’re in a party in PvE.

What really annoys me most of all though is that the original skills in beta for a thief have now ‘more or less’ been given to the mesmer even though the only reason they were changed is because they were OP!

Uh, you’re joking, right?

Thieves are hard as hell to stomp and they do INSANE damage with their bouncing dagger

take your “I’m bad so I’m going to cry about everything” talk somewhere else.

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P.S. Thief downed skills are amazing for both PvE and PvP

i really have no problem with the downed skills for my thief in pvp

The engiees down state is alot worse then thief and its still pretty good

Thieves are arguably the strongest pvp class. Hell, I had a 1v1 fight with him, he downed me with about 1/5 life (I’m a necro so in downed state I can leech life) and I totally could have killed him with my life leech, but he cloaked so I couldn’t target him and then finished me before he reappeared.

Yeah, sounds rough.

Teulux.6732:

take your “I’m bad so I’m going to cry about everything” talk somewhere else.

Grow up. Infact, i’m doing very well in PvP. This downed state is useless though. No where near as hard to stop as mesmers for example.

Maybe i’m not using the downed state correctly.. anyone got any tips of how they use it in PvP effectively?

The whole point of the downed state abilities is to prolong the time it takes enemies to stomp you thus giving your allies more time to revive you. The Thief abilities are amazing for that.

Try to use them with the idea of how best to make it easier for your allies to revive you. For example on my Warrior a Thief buddy used his ability to teleport closer to me in WvW. The enemy followed and I was able to pounce on the enemy and knock him away then revive my Thief buddy.

Another tip try to sound a little less whiney and more mature in your complaint/request for help and maybe people will not flame you.

All I’m seeing is “waah my downed state isn’t the best in the game by far to compliment my already amazing up state”

Thief and Mesmer arguably the best down states in the game right now. Downed state isnt there to see who out damages the other person. As mentioned by Mog, its to delay the killing blow to allow your team to revive. So in that respect, the profession is amazing at it. And Thief downed state does a nice bit of damage as well.

I play an Ele and when I down a thief I down bother trying to down them, I just burst them down because its just a waste of time imo to try and get the stomp off.

thief has the best downed state

From Spartacus:

First rule:
You get an instant kill on the red.
Here. Here.
Always remember: Go for the red first…
because ifyou don’t, your opponent will.

In the blue, you get a cripple.
Here, here…
here and here.

Second rule:
Go for the cripple before the slow kill.

Here’s a slow kill on the yellow.
Here, here…
and here.

Remember…

A slow kill may have enough left in him to kill you before he dies.
With a cripple, you know you’ve got him…
if you keep your distance and wear him down.

The rest is all right for a public spectacle in Rome…
but here at Capua we expect more than simple butchery…
and we get it.

Synatics.9713:

Teulux.6732:

take your “I’m bad so I’m going to cry about everything” talk somewhere else.

Grow up. Infact, i’m doing very well in PvP. This downed state is useless though. No where near as hard to stop as mesmers for example.

Maybe i’m not using the downed state correctly.. anyone got any tips of how they use it in PvP effectively?

For the most part you want to save your Shadow Escape when someone is about to finish you. Wait for them to start casting, SE away (preferably around a corner/bush/etc.) and pop Smoke Bomb. Proceed to start casting Bandage and profit.

Our Trail of Knives is awesome if there are some allies around, since you can literally apply cripple to enemies 100% of the time. Although it completely sucks if it’s just one enemy and no one around to help since it doesn’t bounce. Throwing a knife at a distant enemy coming to finish you is always a plus when it comes to escaping.

Now if you’re getting downed in the open field (no cover/bushes/rocks/etc.) you’re probably screwed. But then again fighting out in the open is not playing to the Thief’s strengths which is to surprise and burst down enemies.

All downed states are supposed to suck… I mean, you were downed… Really, what are you expecting?

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