Too Many 1 Shot battles. I'm done.

Too Many 1 Shot battles. I'm done.

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Posted by: dlovin.3946

dlovin.3946

Tried every class and multiple builds, just about even one of them I can develop some “one shot” kill. Well not really one shot but kill them in 2 or 3 seconds.

My favorite is my warrior. I have 2 builds that do this. One is the classic charge / great sword burst (which can do 30k damage in one shot easy).

The next is sword / axe bleed / crit. Charge, axe WW move, then my F1 sword move. Most everything is dead by then.

My warrior has 72% crit and 3300~ power.

Let’s not even go into the thief cheese. we all know about that.

I can do it on my mesmer. Necro, Sometimes on my engineer.

Seriously the PvP in this game is too much of an instant kill / insta gib / one shot fight. There is no balance… no longevity in battle.

Ever seen three engineers drop down 12 turrets? No point in fighting that battle. Or any fight with 2 + theif or 2 + warrior. good luck.

Welp.. that’s it for me. That was quick. Guess I’ll wait for the next PvP game.. maybe it will have battles that last longer than 2 burst moves.

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Posted by: Rekkonn.6831

Rekkonn.6831

I agree the pvp system here is lacking but their pve is amazing. Im sorry it was not what you wanted out of the game but the way i see it, they are trying to make it a shooter style with mmo controls. It is a bit much for me also, good luck on your next game.

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Posted by: Malakree.5912

Malakree.5912

Against most ppl worse than me I trash them quickly. In an even skill battle even against a thief running a full burst build (and my mesmer being almost full damage) it still took a good 15 seconds to play out completely.

Same as wow, 90% of players lost to me in the first min, 8% of them died in 5mins, the really good ones we could be there for hours.

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Posted by: Lewk.8359

Lewk.8359

Warrior / Thief / Mesmer put out some very high burst DMG, however i would submit that only Thief and Mesmer have inherently more potential than most other classes. Warrior is very strong by comparison, but thief and mesmer are simply above the rest.

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Posted by: Malakree.5912

Malakree.5912

I think for hotjoin ppl are generally only packing offensive builds. Mesmer and theif can inherently pick up quite a lot of damage while still having a ton of tricks, this and the fact that the builds etc. are a lot more obv means that they are being put in quite a good light atm.

I suspect for premade PvP and once the game starts to get a little more explored other classes will begin to shine or at least join the limelight. For examples of this see development of the SC2 meta game.

Off the top of my head I can think of both a necro and a guardian who made far more of an impression on me than any mesmer or theif just because of howkittenhard they were to kill while pumping stupid quantities of damage. Despite this though I’ve not seen anyone else running their builds or coming close to how vicious they were.

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Posted by: Hopes.4512

Hopes.4512

Try that against me on my Gaurdian, the only thing that annoys me as a gaurd is Mesmers, because I can’t figure out how/if I can remove the dang confusion. (not acting like a condition) You can’t put conditions on me, I eat them. You can’t stun me I pop out with two skills which are rarely ever BOTH on CD. I have mad heals, and hella mitigation. Not to mention constant burns, and around 60%~crit.

Oh did I mention going invincible for 5 seconds, returning with a heal+aegis, another aegis available, more heals and stun breaks. Dude it goes on. I’ve rarely encountered your 2-3 second fight as a ranger either. With the right moves, and the right build/pet combo “You can’t touch this”.

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Posted by: Malakree.5912

Malakree.5912

That build of guardian is the one build which really annoys me. It does frigging no damage but it takes me like 2/3 mins to kill. Often when I see one of them defending a point I just go take a different one since I’m not in a spec designed to mash them and in the 2/3 mins I spend taking that point I could have made a massive difference elsewhere. Ofc if that spec of guard is assulting my point I just laugh since they have no chance.

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Posted by: Kalithro.6532

Kalithro.6532

DAOC ruined PVP for all other MMOs for me. I had some nice 15 minute 2v2s over and over for hours in that game.

I did try however… went in with my awsome Elementalist and had a Necro take 90% of my life in less then 2 seconds at max range.

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Posted by: Malakree.5912

Malakree.5912

DAOC ruined PVP for all other MMOs for me. I had some nice 15 minute 2v2s over and over for hours in that game.

I did try however… went in with my awsome Elementalist and had a Necro take 90% of my life in less then 2 seconds at max range.

You say that almost as if
1) Thats the norm,
2) Long drawn out battles dont occur in any other mmos (go play priest feral vs Hpala dk)
3) As if there is nothing you could have done in terms of skill, utilities or trait setup in order to stop this.

If you play glass cannon you shouldn’t be surprised when another player can blow you up….that’s why they are called GLASS cannons, because they break so easily.

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Posted by: Navaris.5087

Navaris.5087

Haven’t really run into many one-shots so much as ungodly bleeds that are long and insanely damaging.

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Posted by: Kalithro.6532

Kalithro.6532

DAOC ruined PVP for all other MMOs for me. I had some nice 15 minute 2v2s over and over for hours in that game.

I did try however… went in with my awsome Elementalist and had a Necro take 90% of my life in less then 2 seconds at max range.

You say that almost as if
1) Thats the norm,
2) Long drawn out battles dont occur in any other mmos (go play priest feral vs Hpala dk)
3) As if there is nothing you could have done in terms of skill, utilities or trait setup in order to stop this.

If you play glass cannon you shouldn’t be surprised when another player can blow you up….that’s why they are called GLASS cannons, because they break so easily.

This game has TONS of burst Damage and every Profession seems to be a GLASS CANNON with the exception of a few Guardian builds. It is not just the Elementalist.

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Posted by: Camasi.8415

Camasi.8415

I haven’t really run into any 15 second fights but a fight can usually be decided within a minute. This is of course a WvW match for me. The game is very team oriented and not so much heavy on 1v1 fights. It depends on how cohesive of a team you are in if you will survive or die within that minute.

I think they make it this way because you also have a chance to recover.

Honestly, I like quick fights because it forces you to improve at a rapid rate and to really analyze your competition.

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Posted by: Malakree.5912

Malakree.5912

DAOC ruined PVP for all other MMOs for me. I had some nice 15 minute 2v2s over and over for hours in that game.

I did try however… went in with my awsome Elementalist and had a Necro take 90% of my life in less then 2 seconds at max range.

You say that almost as if
1) Thats the norm,
2) Long drawn out battles dont occur in any other mmos (go play priest feral vs Hpala dk)
3) As if there is nothing you could have done in terms of skill, utilities or trait setup in order to stop this.

If you play glass cannon you shouldn’t be surprised when another player can blow you up….that’s why they are called GLASS cannons, because they break so easily.

This game has TONS of burst Damage and every Profession seems to be a GLASS CANNON with the exception of a few Guardian builds. It is not just the Elementalist.

With my mesmer I can survive for a really long time even in 1v2/1v3 situations. In a 1v1 the only 3 ppl who have been able to burst me was a guardian, a theif in a 100% glass cannon build and a well of suffering necro. Only the guardian was spec’d for any survivability of them.

Other than that the only time I have short fights is when I out-class my opponent so hard he has no clue what just hit him.

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Posted by: Reihert.1509

Reihert.1509

Guardian here.
Kill a lot, barely never looses on a 1v1.
Bleeds is just something doesnt exist for me.
Maybe you are facing ,any new playersmthat are mostly alearning their class.
And that should be common comsidering the game is really new.

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Posted by: Morkai.7645

Morkai.7645

Tried every class and multiple builds, just about even one of them I can develop some “one shot” kill. Well not really one shot but kill them in 2 or 3 seconds.

My favorite is my warrior. I have 2 builds that do this. One is the classic charge / great sword burst (which can do 30k damage in one shot easy).

The next is sword / axe bleed / crit. Charge, axe WW move, then my F1 sword move. Most everything is dead by then.

My warrior has 72% crit and 3300~ power.

Let’s not even go into the thief cheese. we all know about that.

I can do it on my mesmer. Necro, Sometimes on my engineer.

Seriously the PvP in this game is too much of an instant kill / insta gib / one shot fight. There is no balance… no longevity in battle.

Ever seen three engineers drop down 12 turrets? No point in fighting that battle. Or any fight with 2 + theif or 2 + warrior. good luck.

Welp.. that’s it for me. That was quick. Guess I’ll wait for the next PvP game.. maybe it will have battles that last longer than 2 burst moves.

Go play a dagger/dagger elementalist for a challege no 1 shot or 2 to 3 sec kill for supposed Glass cannon…

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Posted by: Amos.8760

Amos.8760

Tried every class and multiple builds, just about even one of them I can develop some “one shot” kill. Well not really one shot but kill them in 2 or 3 seconds.

My favorite is my warrior. I have 2 builds that do this. One is the classic charge / great sword burst (which can do 30k damage in one shot easy).

The next is sword / axe bleed / crit. Charge, axe WW move, then my F1 sword move. Most everything is dead by then.

My warrior has 72% crit and 3300~ power.

Let’s not even go into the thief cheese. we all know about that.

I can do it on my mesmer. Necro, Sometimes on my engineer.

Seriously the PvP in this game is too much of an instant kill / insta gib / one shot fight. There is no balance… no longevity in battle.

Ever seen three engineers drop down 12 turrets? No point in fighting that battle. Or any fight with 2 + theif or 2 + warrior. good luck.

Welp.. that’s it for me. That was quick. Guess I’ll wait for the next PvP game.. maybe it will have battles that last longer than 2 burst moves.

I’m an engineer. If your warrior gets close enough to touch me, that’s my own fault and I deserve to be slaughtered.

But we don’t need to worry about that, since you won’t touch me.

My turret is so much better at this game than I am.