Undercutting sell orders? TP flipping

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Posted by: Suinz.5968

Suinz.5968

Hello, I just started flipping on the TP to make some gold and I had a question. When finding a good item to flip, should I always sell at the same price the item is currently at or should I keep undercutting people when someone lists a sell order above mine? I find if I keep undercutting people, I cause the item to have less profit for me and I lose track of which sell orders are actually mine if I do it a lot.

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Posted by: Linken.6345

Linken.6345

You shouldent do it mate since each time you list there is a fee that you wont get back.

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Posted by: Suinz.5968

Suinz.5968

You shouldent do it mate since each time you list there is a fee that you wont get back.

Does this apply to items I sell in bulk? Say I’m buying 100 of an item and only 50 comes through at a time. Should I post 50, then when the other 50 comes through, post it on the same sell order instead of undercutting someone who may have undercut me during the time I’m waiting for the last 50?

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

The fee is a constant, 10% of your total value, and another 5% once sold.
That means every time you undercut someone, you pay that value again.

1 onion costs 1s50c
Fee is 15c
20 onions cost 30s0c
Fee is 3s
(That’s not the actual value of onions)

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

Picking a price is as much art as science and some of it depends on the market, on the quantities involved, and your willingness to risk. It also depends on what you mean by flipping. If you want a rapid turn around, you should list for something that is unlikely to be undercut — you trade off speed for profit.

If you don’t care so much about how long things take to sell, then don’t worry about undercutting as much. Everything eventually sells.

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Posted by: onevstheworld.2419

onevstheworld.2419

You also should also consider if what you’re selling is a high or low volume item. If you’re selling elder wood and have 1000 sellers cheaper than you, you’re items will still sell quickly, whereas if there are 1000 cheaper sellers for your precursor, but prepared to wait a while.

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Posted by: Suinz.5968

Suinz.5968

You also should also consider if what you’re selling is a high or low volume item. If you’re selling elder wood and have 1000 sellers cheaper than you, you’re items will still sell quickly, whereas if there are 1000 cheaper sellers for your precursor, but prepared to wait a while.

Yeah, I usually go with items that sell a few hundred a day. I think I’ll try not undercutting for a while and see how it goes.

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Posted by: Faaris.8013

Faaris.8013

The fee is a constant, 10% of your total value, and another 5% once sold.
That means every time you undercut someone, you pay that value again.

1 onion costs 1s50c
Fee is 15c
20 onions cost 30s0c
Fee is 3s
(That’s not the actual value of onions)

The listing fee is 5%. If you remove the items from the TP, you pay that fee. When you actually sell your items, the 10% exchange fee comes on top of that.

If you see someone undercutting you with 2000 items while you only list 30, and your guess is that it takes 2 weeks before your offer is the one that gets the instant purchaser, it might be smarter to pay the 5% and relist (which costs another 5%), depends on how quickly you need the money.

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Posted by: Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497

Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497

Flipping isn’t really a good idea unless you are REEAALLY good at watching market trends, or you’re good at python programming to autonomously find patterns for you.

One thing you should probably look at is things involved in ascended crafting, and some of the metals. There is usually a MASSIVE crash in the order section every 3-4 hrs. Likely a result of Dragon’s Stand, Auric Basin, And Silverwaste getting farmed hard core. The worst part is this continues to get lower and lower because people often times just don’t pay attention, and will hit that sell button immediately.

Around that time is when you want to start buying in bulk, and trying to flip it. You minimize your losses, and maximize your gains.

Also, pay close attention to certain crafting materials, what they craft into, and how cheaply you can make it.

For the longest time, you used to be able to just buy a bunch of logs. Turn them into planks, and resell them and come out with a profit that was 9-times what you paid. People caught on though and that stopped being a thing.

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

The fee is a constant, 10% of your total value, and another 5% once sold.
That means every time you undercut someone, you pay that value again.

1 onion costs 1s50c
Fee is 15c
20 onions cost 30s0c
Fee is 3s
(That’s not the actual value of onions)

The listing fee is 5%. If you remove the items from the TP, you pay that fee. When you actually sell your items, the 10% exchange fee comes on top of that.

If you see someone undercutting you with 2000 items while you only list 30, and your guess is that it takes 2 weeks before your offer is the one that gets the instant purchaser, it might be smarter to pay the 5% and relist (which costs another 5%), depends on how quickly you need the money.

Sorry, i flipped the 5-10% around.
My point was, though, that if you list more, you pay more, and you pay it again every relisting, so you have to consider when you stop cutting in the profits and start cutting in the base value