Utility Skill Damage Calculation?

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yski.7642

According to the wiki, the formula for calculating utility skill damage would be
Damage = Utility strength * Power * Skill coefficient / Armor

What puzzles me is that Utility strength part – I see no explanation on how to actually find it. How is that calculated?

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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Whatever the number on the tooltip says


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Are you sure? It seems to change with power, so we’d get crazy increase in damage when we increase the power.

For ordinary weapon skills the tooltip number is calculated like this:
Tooltip damage = (average weapon strength) * Power * (skill-specific coefficient) / (level-based Armor value),

I’d imagine it’s something similar for utility skills, except the average weapon strength would probably be utility power instead.

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Yes, im pretty sure utility dmg is the same as weapon skill dmg. I believe utility power is the same thing as weapon strength. An easy way to test this would be using utilities with ascended weapons, then with exotics and see if the dmg changes


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It turns out the utility strength seems to be somehow randomized as well – I removed all my weapons, traits and PvP gear in general and spammed some utilities on golems, and never received two identical hits from any of them. The actual numbers don’t seem to be documented anywhere.

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Well that is strange


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Yes, im pretty sure utility dmg is the same as weapon skill dmg. I believe utility power is the same thing as weapon strength. An easy way to test this would be using utilities with ascended weapons, then with exotics and see if the dmg changes

There are two different formulas for weapon skill damage and utility skill damage though. The numbers for your tests would indeed be different, but only because power is part of the formula, not because weapon strength changes. Then there’s the fact utilities work regardless of the weapons, so I think we can conclude that’s not the way it works.
The damage formulas can be found here: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Damage

Does anyone actually know how this works? I’m trying to figure out just how much damage an elementalist burst could do in a ideal case scenario, and for that I need to know how to calculate these things.

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I received some good advice over at this thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Highest-Possible-Burst/first#post4085288

TL;DR version is that “Utility strength” uses an inherent weapon strength based on your level and possibly the quality of the weapon you’re using. For exotic users, the average value would be 952.5, and for ascended users it would be either that or 5% higher, though no-one seems to be quite sure which and due to my lack of ascended gear I can’t test it.

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