Guild Wars 2

When someone dies, about 3/5 times they instantly respawn at a way point, without waiting to see if anybody is around to revive them. It’s often a needless waste of gold, and if the way point is distant, a waste of time too. Most of the time I could have gotten to the player within a few seconds. A couple minutes at most! So be patient and see if anyone is around—it’s silly to use a way point if someone is in plain sight! I cringe a little every time I almost get to a body, only to have them leave on me—think to myself “There goes a silver piece, bud”

Or: a map function that allows you to tag a dead player as a way of saying, “Stay right there and I’ll come raise you!”

Dying in pve is embarrassing. I’d rather spend the silver and save a bit of dignity tbh.

Awesome.6120:

Dying in pve is embarrassing. I’d rather spend the silver and save a bit of dignity tbh.

You just need to make it a worthwhile death. Dying to a wasp? Embarrassing. Dying to three hives worth of wasps? Epic.

How about dying while falling of a cliff during a battle against a risen chicken?

EPICLY EMBARRASING

Weindrasi.3805:

When someone dies, about 3/5 times they instantly respawn at a way point, without waiting to see if anybody is around to revive them. It’s often a needless waste of gold, and if the way point is distant, a waste of time too. Most of the time I could have gotten to the player within a few seconds. A couple minutes at most! So be patient and see if anyone is around—it’s silly to use a way point if someone is in plain sight! I cringe a little every time I almost get to a body, only to have them leave on me—think to myself “There goes a silver piece, bud”

I’m with you completely on this, but there needs to be a way for other players to let the defeated player know that help is coming. Otherwise, you could be sitting there for over 10 mins not knowing if there’s someone coming to help you or if there’s anyone else in the area at all.

For me, unless I actually saw other players running in the same region/direction as me, when I get defeated, I WP almost immediately, because there’s no guarantee that someone will be along to res me (or that they’ll even help you at all! There’s been a few occasions when I see another player coming along, only to have them run right by my corpse without stopping. >.<)

once I was reviving another player and he used waypoint during the reviving process…

if you are defeated, you could also map chat and ask if anyone’s around or near by
if you’re running twds someone to revive them you can be like, the one defeated near the windmill, i’m coming for yoooooooooooooou!

if i see someone, i usually ask if they need help reviving. sure it seems sily, but there’s always the off chance they were AFk, and if people keep reviving them, and they keep getting killed, their repair bill racks up. so i do wait around, and if no answer, i then carry on.

and many times people do seem to waypoint during the reviving process, it’s just good timing. more often than not, one could be in the world map after having been defeated, and looking which WP to go to, or for whatever reason have been in the world map, i.e. not being able to see someone coming towards them. then the good timing comes in the form of RIGHT as you click to WP, the big yellow words flash for a split second on the screen “A NOBLE SOUL IS HEA….” dangit! XDD has happened to me more than a handful of times. oops. so if i am on the same map, just a diff WP, i’ll map chat a thank you. if i’m on a different map. then i apologize in advance. : ((

There are also the few that see you lying there, and when you ask for assistants the walk right by you and do nothing. That happened to me once, and I died right by a wp that I had not activated yet. I asked for them to rez me and got ignored. Obviously I wasn’t a bot if I was asking for help.

There will always be jerks, but most players are really helpful with reviving
As for me, it depends on how much time I have on my hands – if I’m in a hurry and have activated a nearby waypoint, I wp out. If the next waypoint is miles away and I want a new cup of tea anyway…I wait ^^

In the large majority of cases it is better to respawn at a waypoint rather than wait for a res. Unless you mean the downed state instead of actual death. The risks outweigh the benefits if you’re fully dead.

It takes a long time to revive someone that is fully dead. During this time, the person reviving you gets bumped up the aggro chain, resulting in a high probabiliry of death themselves.

Toxyn.9608:

In the large majority of cases it is better to respawn at a waypoint rather than wait for a res. Unless you mean the downed state instead of actual death. The risks outweigh the benefits if you’re fully dead.

It takes a long time to revive someone that is fully dead. During this time, the person reviving you gets bumped up the aggro chain, resulting in a high probabiliry of death themselves.

If you die in a high-risk area, yeah (I know there are some areas where I wouldn’t wait around for a revive). However, if you happen to die far enough from aggro (or just fall off a cliff >_>), it’s not that difficult. I usually clear nearby mobs before I revive another player, too – you usually get them up before the respawns

I always try to revive anyone I see, even if I am in a place like Orr… but yes I agree that some folks just automatically hit the nearest uncontested waypoint, and I think that happens because they have their map open and cannot see the person running to them to rescue them. Even with the message popping up that a kind soul is reviving you, it is often too late to take back the teleport request.

I almost always wait to see if someone will revive me. I always play in window mode and I’m usually on the internet at the same time as playing so it’s not a big waste of time to me, often when I’m on here I’m downed. If I do get bored I’ll go to a waypoint, but I find it interesting to wait see if I get ressed.

I also always try to res people who I see downed as well. On rare occasions when a lot of people are doing the same things I wait around in areas where people are likely to die. I remember during the head start weekend there was kind of a res chain going on at the bottom of the drop in Sharkmaw Caverns. People would fall down, die, get ressed, and every so often someone would join in with the resurrecting so someone else could carry on. It was surprisingly fun waiting for corpses to drop on you so you could save them.

Awesome.6120:

Dying in pve is embarrassing. I’d rather spend the silver and save a bit of dignity tbh.

I often wondered about that as I too always help downed players and often have them disappear on me. Lol then the animation sticks as you get eaten alive by mobs.

Thanks for the honesty!

I was reviving someone and at the very last second of them getting up they WP.
Not sure if they were trying to troll me but it didn’t cost me anything.

You also have to remember, some people like having their armor repaired and will go to a wp with an armor repair vendor.

I would like to take this moment to remind those that do die to look around & see if there is a player that looks like they are heading your way through mobs just to get to you. Its worth the wait for that rez

I second Pinder.5261. In fact, I came to the forums to suggest exactly this sort of tool.

Often I will see a downed player on the map and would love some way of pinging them to let them know someone is on their way.

I realize this could be open for abuse if (when?) players decide to be jerks, hopefully not so often that it would become meaningless.

Death Reincarnated.3570:

How about dying while falling of a cliff during a battle against a risen chicken?

EPICLY EMBARRASING

That made me giggle =D

I always joke when falling off a cliff, that my moa pet malfunctioned. (I play a ranger)

“No one told me a Moa was a flightless bird!” Or either I start singing while dead “I believe I can fly…..I believe I can touch the sky….”

Normally gets a few giggles while being rezzed.

I usually wait a little bit when dead.. unless I am rally miffed that I died, mostly due to kite laziness, then I tp instantly..
When it happens that someone will waypoint while rezzed, it may be that they are just looking at the map, picking a waypoint and then tp there without even being aware of being rezzed..

As a player who’s ‘main’ is an Engineer, I don’t particularly see a problem in trying to rez someone in a number of situations. Even if I can’t directly get to you (due to being undergeared, or just knowing that I can’t get there in a decent amount of time), if I can get within throwing range I may try sending a couple Elixir R’s your way.

If I can reach you in a troublesome area, a ‘fast’ rez would consist of 1) Drop Elixir R, 2) drink Elixir B or kit swap (personal swiftness), 3) start the rez. Add Turrets to taste, though I don’t run with them anymore. Even at low Healing Power its worked out pretty well – better than my lower-level Healway Guardian currently, though I expect him to surpass that eventually.

As for my own deaths, I sometimes wait, sometimes not. Recently I’ve been charging headlong into Bad Things solo, so more often than not you’re not going to reach me anyway. This is probably a side effect of coming to GW2 from Eve Online – not losing all your equipment on death has probably been far too liberating. :-)

Death Reincarnated.3570:

How about dying while falling of a cliff during a battle against a risen chicken?

EPICLY EMBARRASING

Right up there with getting kicked off a mountain by a bunny while trying to steal its food.

Quidy.5739:

Awesome.6120:

Dying in pve is embarrassing. I’d rather spend the silver and save a bit of dignity tbh.

I often wondered about that as I too always help downed players and often have them disappear on me. Lol then the animation sticks as you get eaten alive by mobs.

Thanks for the honesty!

A lot of times though, I don’t see the “A noble soul is healing you” until I’ve already wp’d. Otherwise I’d have stayed. But in a big fight, someone healing you is liable to die also…sometimes if a wp is close, I’ll just go to keep from anyone else getting killed.

A while ago a group of maybe three of four players were fighting a boss event. I went down and waited for one of the others to rez me. After some moments went by I finally chatted “rez?” A player immediately came over to me and rezzed me and I thanked them. Them they said something like “sorry for the delay, I just assume everyone is a bot”.
Not sure if that is a normal experience or not, but it got me thinking that I probably need to ask for a rez sooner rather than later and not just assume someone will come over to help.

maybe someone should create a GWLFRes website….

’shopped by me.

Death Reincarnated.3570:

How about dying while falling of a cliff during a battle against a risen chicken?

EPICLY EMBARRASING

Save your face with “LAAAG!” shout. It need S.K.I.L.L. to activate it not to fast or not to late…

Let’s just say I have 20+ deaths on my level 8 Ele (they’re weaker then I thought) I have died right next to a WP which didn’t activate, I have seen countless people run passed me even when asking for help, I don’t blame them majority of the time my body is halfway through something when I die xD

I revive anyone I can, free exp if they’re AFK that’s their fault although, I will stick around and defend them for awhile.

Orion Templar.4589:

A while ago a group of maybe three of four players were fighting a boss event. I went down and waited for one of the others to rez me. After some moments went by I finally chatted “rez?” A player immediately came over to me and rezzed me and I thanked them. Them they said something like “sorry for the delay, I just assume everyone is a bot”.
Not sure if that is a normal experience or not, but it got me thinking that I probably need to ask for a rez sooner rather than later and not just assume someone will come over to help.

I have been known to revive bots or AFKs a few times before I notice that I’m wasting my time …

Although, it does help with that one achievement!

I would like to see a system like Zax suggested. To be honest, though, I will say that anyone who dies (fully dead, not downed) in an event/dungeon should WP and run back instead of relying on people to rez them. It takes a long time to raise a person from defeated and puts the rezzer(s) in danger, not just because of the increased aggro, but because it essentially roots you in place for a long time with no defenses. It’s especially troublesome for move-or-die classes like eles and thieves- personally, I no longer even try to rez people who are fully dead in events, though I will usually rez them after.

This is especially relevant in the harder events, namely the Temple of Balthazar. The boss hits harder for every dead person in the area, and already has a number of dangerous attacks that punish people for standing still and not paying attention. To top that off, he must be killed within a certain time limit, and has a large amount of health as well as veteran adds that heal him- hence, rezzing the dead takes away precious time. Too often, people who die in the event just lay around instead of WP’ing, which causes it to fail every time.

tl;dr there are times where defeated people shouldn’t wait to be rezzed.

As a general rule, if you are defeated in the middle of a big boss fight, you should WP instead of waiting for a res. It takes too long for someone to get you up, and if there are only a few players taking on the boss, one person leaving the fight to help you up can mean the difference between victory or a TPK.

On the other hand, for really, REALLY big boss fights where 10+ players show up (like the Frozen Maw event in Wayfarer Foothills), it’s perfectly fine to wait for someone to res you if your corpse is out of the way and safe from environmental hazards. Two or 3 players ressing at the same time can get even a defeated player back up into the fight quickly, and the other surviving players should be able to hold their own.

Falunel.7645:

To be honest, though, I will say that anyone who dies (fully dead, not downed) in an event/dungeon should WP and run back instead of relying on people to rez them

Agree. The dungeon payoff is great enough to negate any waypoint/repair costs you’ll have anyway.

I make an effort to rez anyone I see, as fast as possible. To me, it just feels good to help people that way — and it’s like a fun challenge to try and pull one off in the center of a dangerous situation while not getting walloped myself. I’m also more than happy to receive a rez. I don’t know why anyone should be “embarrassed” to be revived. I’m not going to wait around on the ground if there are no visible players in the immediate area, though. That is a waste of time.

A method to tag other players who need a rez? Hmm, it’s a nice idea in theory, but I can imagine some abuses. For example, there will be jerks who will tag you to say they’re coming to help — when really, they aren’t. Or, you tag them and then they complain afterwards that you didn’t come fast enough and wasted their time.

A map chat will help. Depending on where the place is, it may take a while for potential rescuer to reach you. An example, a player was downed near the Tribulation Rift vista (arguably one of the toughest vistas to get in Shiverpeak). I had to sneak past the dredges, did the Rift scaffolding JP, waited for champion stone golem DE to timeout before I could rez him safely. The whole thing took me about 10 mins, but I earned myself a new friend

I have been trying to map straits of devastation. I have died many times. It is sad when EVERY kitten waypoint is contested, there is NO ONE around, and you have to go to the other side of the bay and swim back. I was mobbed yesterday while chopping down a tree that (judging by the reaction of the mob) must have been a holy relic to someone . While I was fighting for my life another player ran up, chopped on the tree, and left. I died. And I had to swim across the kitten bay again because EVERY kitten WP was contested. Not that I’m bitter.

loneknight.8425:

A map chat will help. Depending on where the place is, it may take a while for potential rescuer to reach you. An example, a player was downed near the Tribulation Rift vista (arguably one of the toughest vistas to get in Shiverpeak). I had to sneak past the dredges, did the Rift scaffolding JP, waited for champion stone golem DE to timeout before I could rez him safely. The whole thing took me about 10 mins, but I earned myself a new friend

this i find is great advice and should be taken in by all new players and members to the game as well as even immedite and higher levels to help out the beginners in our community . this is just called keeping an eye on your fellow gamers and guild members

What about a special ping?

If you see a downed player icon on your map, right click their icon and the map is pinged in a different colour — to separate it from the regular map ping (also everyone on the map sees this ping). Everyone (including the downed player) then knows that player is going to be looked after.

Again, this could be totally open for abuse. Which would suck.

Raf.1078:

Death Reincarnated.3570:

How about dying while falling of a cliff during a battle against a risen chicken?

EPICLY EMBARRASING

Right up there with getting kicked off a mountain by a bunny while trying to steal its food.

Hehe, these made me giggle. I myself have used Ride the Lightning directly off a cliff at least a few times.