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Posted by: johnIV.3849

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Hey guys which heavy is better for PvE solo/dungeon/fractals, WvW solo roam/small group roam. Looking to get one up to 80 for main. Love the GS/hammer and heavy armor look.

Having a lot of trouble deciding.

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Posted by: notabot.3497

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If you want hammer, guardian. If you want GS, either/both.

In pve warriors tend to use axe/mace + GS as their primary dungeon dps set. Its solid dps and get the job done quite well. Other weapons for specific situations of course. The hammer for warrior has been used in the past as CC in wvw zergs ect, as for small groups, i dunno, i don’t play much warrior in wvw.

In PVE guardian, the typical dungeon meta build uses GS + Sword/focus as their main set, with scepter being used for range required fights and staff used for clearing blossoms in TA (and not used for anything else there, its just for niche uses). Hammer should be reserved for high fractals where the protection symbol on auto attack is more in demand. In normal dungeons it usually just cause havoc for combo fields (nobody needs retaliation on blast finish when they are trying to blast fire fields for might). Hammer can be used to provide more protection if the group is a bit glassy and can’t handle the fights with the normal aegis/blind protection you offer in normal dungeons if required, but it really shouldn’t be necessary. Farming dungeons are easy enough to be done with any set, the meta set is just to get through it quickly feel free to use hammer if you want to (but mace/shield/staff are better in other game modes). In WvW guardians are better in groups and the builds for them reflect this fact. Staff is viable in this setting (though the nerf on the symbol makes it sketchy) The lack of viable ranged attacks means you will probably have a scepter handy for those types of fights. Hammer and GS are still usable for melee fights.

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Posted by: mercury ranique.2170

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My personal favourite is the guardian.
The main difference is that a guardian requires player skills. To be a good guardian you need to be a good player, and the more player skills you have, the better you get. To be a good warrior, you still need skills, but the ceiling (where you cant get any better) is lower in my personal experience.

So, If you want to be one of the crowd that is just plain good, go warrior. If you want to stand out and are up for that challenge, go guardian.

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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Because their are hardly any guardians….

Warr cuz OP


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Posted by: Eloquence.5207

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Warrior = self-sufficient
Guardian = shines with others present (but still pretty good alone)

Warriors are almost nerf-proof because
1. They are the love-child of ANET
2. So many weapons to choose from.

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Posted by: Charak.9761

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Warrior does everything but their gameplay is sooooo boring
Guardian can’t master everything but can be played fairly easily

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Posted by: johnIV.3849

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So pretty much if you want to be defensive/defensive boons/heals and play with zergs go guardian. And if you want to be more offensive/offensive boons/more passive defense and play solo/small groups go warrior.

Does that pretty much summarize it?

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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In a nutshell. But warriors can bring defensive support and boons and guards can do offensive.


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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

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In a nutshell. But warriors can bring defensive support and boons and guards can do offensive.

I guess yes. But really, its minimal. Yes 2 Guardian with staff can give 25 stack of might for a short period of time and 5 guardian can give constant 25might. But the Warrior can do that better and give constant fury.

Warrior on the other hand don’t have any reflect, aegis, and most defensive boons is for themselves and not the party, except if you trait your Warrior for support (which is not the best choice for PvE). So ya each profession can do a bit of everything, but Guardian shine in defensive support while warrior are better for offensive support.

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Posted by: Vael.9076

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Choose based on aesthetics, both classes are great at using big weapons. If you like the magic effects of the guardian, choose that class. If you prefer the aesthetics and feel of warriors, go that way.

Guardians and warriors are both very solid classes, with quite a bit of flexibility depending on how you want to play them.

The one thing you need to avoid is choosing a class with a specific intention in mind, which doesn’t mesh well. Based on your expectations though, it’s really about aesthetics, so if you like burning your enemies with blue fire, guardian, if you aren’t into a lot of magic, warrior.

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Posted by: notabot.3497

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In a nutshell. But warriors can bring defensive support and boons and guards can do offensive.

I guess yes. But really, its minimal. Yes 2 Guardian with staff can give 25 stack of might for a short period of time and 5 guardian can give constant 25might. But the Warrior can do that better and give constant fury.

Warrior on the other hand don’t have any reflect, aegis, and most defensive boons is for themselves and not the party, except if you trait your Warrior for support (which is not the best choice for PvE). So ya each profession can do a bit of everything, but Guardian shine in defensive support while warrior are better for offensive support.

Only bad guardians use staff for might stacking in pve. It is low duration and you get stuck on a terrible dps weapon that can’t really utilize those might stacks. Guardians out of the box do less than wars do, but in actual play guardians get more for group boosts AND get the situation based huge burst from reflect damage. That being said you want both in a group because they bring different and stacking buffs/utility to a party. In terms of party composition, you generally only want one of either, but if you do double up its better to have 2 wars than 2 guards. This has no bearing on the question at hand. TBH, I have both so I swap based on what the group needs.

Also, A defensive warrior in pve is a waste of time, as are all defensive builds. Any meta dps build will have enough built in active defense to not even worry about such trivialities. Some classes however are better at providing these defenses to the party, and that is where guardians shine: providing top level dps while providing active group defense.

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Posted by: Yargesh.4965

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So pretty much if you want to be defensive/defensive boons/heals and play with zergs go guardian. And if you want to be more offensive/offensive boons/more passive defense and play solo/small groups go warrior.

Does that pretty much summarize it?

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