Guild Wars 2

I have been playing since launch and have don’t tons of world bosses, champ farming ,dungeons, plinx farming you name it and I have never dropped a precursor and some people have gotten six a and have been playing half the time I have. I’d say the most valuable thing I’ve ever gotten was probably black of white dye. Can someone please help back when ther was MF gear I had like 120% now I’m at about 100%, but yet I still get garbage drops from any and everything is this something that could be fixed??

It’s RNG.

I’ve been playing since launch with 8 level 80s and never gotten better than the occasional exotic from a world boss. The vast majority of people haven’t gotten a precursor from drops. Most people either get them from the mystic toilet or they buy them, not from drops.

Your drop rate sounds about average to me.

Joins the “Never got a good drop in 1500 hours of game play” club.

Just rotten luck, some people get it all, some get nothing.

Hi bigmooky,

I’ve been playing since launch, I have witnessed one genuine precursor drop for a guildmate of mine (Storm). The reason was that he wanted to know what kind of scepter it was..

I see a small amount of people claiming to have even a precursor drop once per week. But silly enough they don’t have the golden title, don’t have a legendary, or any sign of incredible richness.

I do believe those are the kind of people who thinks its a funny prank. It is very easy to fake a precursor drop by pasting the code in chat.

bigmooky.9106:

I have been playing since launch and have don’t tons of world bosses, champ farming ,dungeons, plinx farming you name it and I have never dropped a precursor and some people have gotten six a and have been playing half the time I have. I’d say the most valuable thing I’ve ever gotten was probably black of white dye. Can someone please help back when ther was MF gear I had like 120% now I’m at about 100%, but yet I still get garbage drops from any and everything is this something that could be fixed??

Active playing since launch – highest price drop i’ve got is Eternity (70g on that moment)

A precusor drop—- I wish and have been playing from the beginning. I did get an exotic the other day, but generally crap drops. Even with magic find boons and luck at 82%, mostly junk. Other players seem to get lots.
I firmly believe the RNG is flawed and doesn’t work equally for all players regardless of assurances and comments that there is nothing wrong with the RNG. Maybe that’s true, but for me, I can’t be convinced that I am just unlucky and there are no other factors at play.

One thing that might be interesting if you’ve got the time: Open up the Black Lion tab, go to ‘My Transactions’, switch to the list of items you’ve sold and scroll through it. It keeps a record of everything, going right back to launch.

I don’t know about you but it surprised me how many exotic drops I’d actually had. I remembered about 3, but I actually had 7 or 8. Thing is most exotics are not really that valuable, they go for a few gold so they’re not that memorable as a lucky drop.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that when determining drops the game deals with items in fairly broad groups and doesn’t know or care what the TP prices are. As far as it’s concerned all crafting materials of the same tier or all items of the same rariety are equal. So something like Thick Leather sections or exotics that sell for 1g are considered just as good as drops that are actually valuable. Likewise if someone gets Venom as far as the game is concerned they’re just as lucky as someone who gets Dusk.

(Edit: Also why is that these super-lucky players who get regular exotics and multiple precursors never post on the forum? Everyone seems to know one or more players like that, but it’s only the unlucky people who actually post.)

Danikat.8537:

(Edit: Also why is that these super-lucky players who get regular exotics and multiple precursors never post on the forum? Everyone seems to know one or more players like that, but it’s only the unlucky people who actually post.)

Well I can share some of my good luck stories if you like (though nothing really too impressive). Running the world bosses daily usually gets me an exotic or two every 3-5 days or so. In one night I can get up to 20 rares if luck is on my side.

The day that ascended weapons came out, killing Teq (the old one) dropped a cleric ascended weapon box for me. Also no record of attempts, but I got my 80 mystic clovers (using the 10 recipe) in ~15-20 attempts.

And just running around in WvW for a couple of hours, with the zerg, over the weekend got me 4-6 exotics and a handful of rares (maybe 10-12 WvW ranks worth of caping/killing, and a little over 500 player kills). And I have almost a full set of exotic medium account bound armor for an alt when he hits 80 from fractals (back in the day). My MF is about 100% or so.

Nothing that spectacular (besides the ascended weapon drop), but it’s enough good luck for me. And it seems my average exotic drops are a lot better then others, so I have no right to complain.

I had some share off luck as well. so I’m certainly not complaining. Just recently I had Genesis and Entropy drop in one hour for me. Also had Cobalt drop for me.

But at the mystic forge I was unlucky. needed 300+ trys of the single recipe (which should give a more steady outcome then the 10 recipe)

Solid Gold.9310:

Joins the “Never got a good drop in 1500 hours of game play” club.

Just rotten luck, some people get it all, some get nothing.

Sign me up.

I’m 1500+ and have had some okay drops. Never a precrusor (even trying through the mystic forge often).

I helped a new person in the game level up and showed him the ropes. He played the TP for money and got dusk. A week later he got dawn. Later that day he got storm.

He’s probably under 100 hours of gameplay.

RNG is RNG =(

I’m in the same boat. Been playing since launch (slightly before that if you include the open beta!) and I’m averaging an exotic every two or three weeks. Never seen a precursor or anything like that. I get a handful of greens, a few blues and a rare from world bosses.

Apart from one exotic staff and an exotic broadsword I’ve had to buy everything my characters use. The rest I’ve found have been useless to me, just relatively common and cheap fodder for the trading post.

Just the way the cookie crumbles I suppose – bit annoying though lol

RNG is RNG, unfortunately. Most expensive drops I’ve ever had were Celestial Dye, Final Rest, and a Metal Aqua Breather from Tequatl. That’s luck of the draw for you.

It’s why I’m looking forward to Precursor Crafting. Even if it’s priced out of my range for materials, that should, hopefully, cut the vast majority of the RNG out of the process for everyone interested in making a Legendary weapon, making the whole system more satisfying in the process.

People lie.

A guy in WvW today tried to pretend he’d pulled a precursor out of a tower Lord drop. Pathetic!

Ethics.4519:

Solid Gold.9310:

Joins the “Never got a good drop in 1500 hours of game play” club.

Just rotten luck, some people get it all, some get nothing.

Sign me up.

I’m 1500+ and have had some okay drops. Never a precrusor (even trying through the mystic forge often).

I helped a new person in the game level up and showed him the ropes. He played the TP for money and got dusk. A week later he got dawn. Later that day he got storm.

He’s probably under 100 hours of gameplay.

RNG is RNG =(

If he got his precursors by playing the TP for money and then buying them then RNG doesn’t come into it.

Also when you’re talking about precusors how many hours you’ve played isn’t a good way of judging if you should have gotten one – even allowing for RNG. Precusors only come from a few very specific places (off the top of my head killing level 80+ enemies, world boss chests and the Mystic Forge) so any time you spend doing anything other than those things your chance of getting one is 0%, no matter how long you play.

So of course different people have different chances of getting a drop. Someone doing the champ train in Queensdale gets 1 chance at a precursor every few hours when they fight the Behemoth. Whereas someone farming Orr or Frostgorge has a chance (a very small one, but still a chance) to get a precursor from almost every enemy they kill. And obviously most people fall somewhere between those two.

Been in Frostgorge alot lately doing T6 gathering, JP chest, Champ Train (usually less than a full circuit with each character) and Claw (when he shows up while I’m farming) with 5 Characters I have gotten to LVL 80 in the past few months. I’ve had Cobalt and Mojo drop from Claw and gotten a handful of exotics that were useful during that time.

I tossed a lot of items in the Mystic Flusher during he Scarlet Invasions and got 2 Imyrldyeen and a TON of Rare equipment I’ve used to gear most of my new LVL 80s.

Nothing spectacular, but I’m not really trying to hardcore farm either. I figure if I don’t go looking for a Precursor, one might find me (not really ready to even think about a Legendary yet anyway). BTW, I’ve NEVER used any MF equipment or buffs beyond some medium level food and Guild banners on Champ Train route. I currently have just reached 63% MF (so I’m not overly farming that either).

I’m actually kind of surprised one of the “Secret Luck Stat” conspiracy theorists haven’t shown up in here yet telling everyone to delete their characters and keep making new ones until you get a “lucky” one….

I never got an exotic drop til 4 days before playing a full year.

I have not seen an exotic drop in over 2 months now.

For the first 6 months in the game I was “lucky” if my money in the bank broke 32 silver.

The only way I have been able to overcome RNG and make money is to pretend GW2 is Farmville and hit nodes every day. The game to me now is running around harvesting.

I hit the meta events most days (Shadow Behemoth, Maw, etc) and that’s where I have gotten almost every one of my exotics, about 90% of them. From the meta events my drop rate is about 1 every 82 hours played. From just killing random mobs, it’s about 1 every thousand hours played.

So really, exotics drop more commonly from some thing than others. Doing hearts and dynamic events won’t get you exotics. It’s doing dungeons, fractals, and the meta events that seem to be the best ways to get them as drops.

I think Anet should just fix the reward system because it’s ridiculous to farm forever then when you finally get an exotic drop it’s crap that’s only worth 97 silver it’s getting very out of hand and making it harder and harder for me to enjoy the game I really hope arena net reads this and changes it because it gets very frustrating

Just keep salvaging. Not only for the luck but also the mats. Then craft yourself an ascended weapon.

On Aurora Glade legendaries are a dime a dozen – everyone has one (yes, yes, I know this reinforces your belief that you have bad luck but hear me out). These people all seem to come from massive guilds – which means they are probably farming precursors for each other (spreading out the RNG increases your chances); so individually they all have rotten luck, together they dont (the irony here is that legendaries were supposed to be a ‘personal experience’). Furthermore after seeing so many legendaries they have basically lost their “bang” for me: unique exotics are great if you want a good looking weapon and ascended isn’t that far off of a legendary in terms of damage.

Personally, if a precursor dropped for me I would probably sell it without hesitation at this point – I just really don’t see legendaries as anything special.

Played 3700hours and all precursors I had so far came from burning gold in the mystic toilet.

bigmooky.9106:

I think Anet should just fix the reward system because it’s ridiculous to farm forever then when you finally get an exotic drop it’s crap that’s only worth 97 silver it’s getting very out of hand and making it harder and harder for me to enjoy the game I really hope arena net reads this and changes it because it gets very frustrating

How do you suggest they fix it?

Most of the drops that are actually worth a lot are valuable because they’re rare. Demand out-strips supply so people can charge high prices for them. If they increase the drop rate then the price will drop and the end result will be that there are even less valuable drops in the game.

They could add more popular skins but that’s extremely difficult to do because what’s popular is a matter of opinion and if they succeeded it’d have the same effect – demand would be spread out between multiple different items so each one individually wouldn’t be as valuable.

bigmooky.9106:

I think Anet should just fix the reward system because it’s ridiculous to farm forever then when you finally get an exotic drop it’s crap that’s only worth 97 silver it’s getting very out of hand and making it harder and harder for me to enjoy the game I really hope arena net reads this and changes it because it gets very frustrating

If drops were the ONLY method to obtain exotics, I would tend to agree with you, but it is certainly NOT the only method and ANet has provided multiple routes and sources to obtain them.

Keep in mind I am NOT talking about NAMED exotics that are purely cosmetic additions to the stats available to the Exotic tier. Those SHOULD be kept exclusive to some extent.

Obtaining precursors are another discussion and I have always felt they should NEVER have been allowed on the Trading Post as they are an anomaly on the TP that I think compromises the entire TP system (if nothing more than giving critics of the TP system a valid “this is broken!!” single talking point)

Yea… I played 2600 hours, and the best drop ive ever gotten is a dagger fir 9 gold D;

Its stupid how being ruch is based on luck or mindless farming. I know people with 4 legendaries, but when I took him to wvw roaming, he died like a fly.

His respond: “omg, why do you even try to pick a fight thats 2vs4? Its a PLAYER, ypu cant win outnumbered vs them. Wvw is a zerg game anyway.”

Yea, those 4 were very much average people who I later solod >__< (even though there were only 3 left, but meh)

4,500+ hrs, well over 2kg worth thrown into forge, farmed early cs chains, lyssa, arena, etc to no ends…….and nada.

If your account is anything like mine don’t expect to get one ever unless you flat out buy it.

Alissah.9281:

Its stupid how being ruch is based on luck or mindless farming. I know people with 4 legendaries, but when I took him to wvw roaming, he died like a fly.

Define rich??
I have 3217g 17s 97c at this moment, and I have never received a drop that was worth over 20g at the time. So I feel what is truly stupid is the assumption that it is based on luck. Last year I spent 20ish gold per shield and bought 12 Ghastly Grinning Shields.
They are going for 780g at the moment. I have sold 2 in the past month for 1200g total and 8 more previously as some lower prices and kept two for myself.

I am curious how this is pure luck?

I’ve never won the lottery. Is there a way we can fix this??

It’s GW2 RNG: Working as intended. Happy grinding.

Teege.4623:

It’s GW2 RNG: Working as intended. Happy grinding.

Sorry it’s flawed, and I will never be convinced otherwise.