Guild Wars 2

It just makes no sense. These are supposed to be progression items, weapons you work towards. They should be prestige gear that you obtain through hours upon hours of play. They’re the product of toiling away as you assemble them piece by piece. By definition a legendary weapon should be the stuff of legends and become part of your legend.

Seeing a legendary weapon on TP cheapens their purpose in my eyes. They’re supposed to be part of your legacy, not some form of hooker item that you throw money at. I personally feel they should all be account bound.

Some disagree

If in another world, you buy your gear from the right vendor (cause you don’t want to craft….maybe?)

Who are you to say how I come by my gear? I may have earned it through blood sweat and tears…not crafting

Gestankfaust.4216:

Some disagree

If in another world, you buy your gear from the right vendor (cause you don’t want to craft….maybe?)

Who are you to say how I come by my gear? I may have earned it through blood sweat and tears…not crafting

Wait… what? O_o

I’m not talking about vendors, I’m talking about the Trade Post (TP). And I’m not talking about just any gear, I’m talking specifically about the Legendary weapons, you know, the items that are supposed to be the end-all goal.

I’m also not making a slight towards how you find your gear, I couldn’t care less how you worked to gear up, that’s how you play the game. And it’s great if you earn your gear through blood sweat and tear, not crafting, which is a rather odd thing to point out. In fact, I’m not even sure we are talking about the same thing.

The point of the thread was to point out that I personally (as in my opinion) feel that the goal of legendary items are to obtain them through a journey, be it an epic quest, or crafting them piece by piece, or doing difficult tasks. They ought to be your personal beacon of prestige. I feel a legendary weapon should not simply be bought with a large sack of gold.

There was nothing as legacy involved in the crafting of this, especially when you already couldve bough almost all the materials from the TP.

JemL.3501:

There was nothing as legacy involved in the crafting of this, especially when you already couldve bough almost all the materials from the TP.

And I agree. This is also for me a small detail that irks me. Having all T6 mats as part of the legendary craft — and 250 of each, no less — means that you’ll either need to grind or pay your way towards obtaining your legendary, and there’s nothing legendary about that.

It would be nice if they could change this, but as of now, for me, the bigger pain is the fact that legendary weapons are turning into wholesale items.

So what? Grind your face off for comps, or grind your face off for gold to buy it. Still grinding the same time, just for a diff reward using a diff path. Point?

If your happiness is dependent on what other people achieve, acquire or fail then the issue is yours. Just because the guy next to me has a Legendary weapon because he could easily afford gems, doesn’t mean that the same Legendary weapon is any less or more valuable if I took year or two to acquire it.

If you get a lot satisfaction in knowing you worked hard for it, then that all that matters. Codependency is road to bitterness….let go.

I’m close to getting my first legendary, I’ll probably play the game long enough to get a second one, but it’d be easier to just farm 2.2k gold that get some of the rarer mats (like Charged Loadstones etc.)

Sleel.8365:

So what? Grind your face off for comps, or grind your face off for gold to buy it. Still grinding the same time, just for a diff reward using a diff path. Point?

The point is, should it be a grind. People seem to pull their shoulders up on this issue a lot, while others are hotly contested against this fact.

I am and will remain certain that there are better ways to build your legendary weapon. Tasks, achievements and components specifically tailored towards each legendary weapon, all of which are story driven in such a way to give each legendary weapon it’s own identity. Rather that than merely throwing all of the rarest mats already used by other crafting items, and being content to have players rummage through those to pass the time.

Shouldn’t legendaries be more legendary than merely functioning of off the droppings of other lesser gear.

Azjenco.9425:

Gestankfaust.4216:

Some disagree

If in another world, you buy your gear from the right vendor (cause you don’t want to craft….maybe?)

Who are you to say how I come by my gear? I may have earned it through blood sweat and tears…not crafting

Wait… what? O_o

I’m not talking about vendors, I’m talking about the Trade Post (TP). And I’m not talking about just any gear, I’m talking specifically about the Legendary weapons, you know, the items that are supposed to be the end-all goal.

I’m also not making a slight towards how you find your gear, I couldn’t care less how you worked to gear up, that’s how you play the game. And it’s great if you earn your gear through blood sweat and tear, not crafting, which is a rather odd thing to point out. In fact, I’m not even sure we are talking about the same thing.

The point of the thread was to point out that I personally (as in my opinion) feel that the goal of legendary items are to obtain them through a journey, be it an epic quest, or crafting them piece by piece, or doing difficult tasks. They ought to be your personal beacon of prestige. I feel a legendary weapon should not simply be bought with a large sack of gold.

And Im talking about if I don’t want to ever craft, what should I do? If I sweat more than you, but don’t want to craft, cause I earned the gold…..?

I feel you when you grief over some money bags just buying one. I feel you this I I much.

Azjenco.9425:

Sleel.8365:

So what? Grind your face off for comps, or grind your face off for gold to buy it. Still grinding the same time, just for a diff reward using a diff path. Point?

The point is, should it be a grind. People seem to pull their shoulders up on this issue a lot, while others are hotly contested against this fact.

I am and will remain certain that there are better ways to build your legendary weapon. Tasks, achievements and components specifically tailored towards each legendary weapon, all of which are story driven in such a way to give each legendary weapon it’s own identity. Rather that than merely throwing all of the rarest mats already used by other crafting items, and being content to have players rummage through those to pass the time.

Shouldn’t legendaries be more legendary than merely functioning of off the droppings of other lesser gear.

Yer right…it should be grind. But you grind is better than others?

Craywulf.5793:

If your happiness is dependent on what other people achieve, acquire or fail then the issue is yours. Just because the guy next to me has a Legendary weapon because he could easily afford gems, doesn’t mean that the same Legendary weapon is any less or more valuable if I took year or two to acquire it.

If you get a lot satisfaction in knowing you worked hard for it, then that all that matters. Codependency is road to bitterness….let go.

In this particular case I wouldn’t call this a very strong argument.

If I want a meaningful journey towards obtaining a legendary weapon, and feel that other players would enjoy it as well, does it merit me getting chewed out, and spat on? Is it wrong of me to expect the developers to add something more substantial behind the end all to be all gear in the game? Am I somehow offending you if I’d like the game (a game that values story and achievement) to incorporate a system that could benefit a lot of players?

My happiness is not dependent upon other players. If every player in the game, but me has a legendary weapon, I wouldn’t care. But you can be kitten well sure that I’d really like to pursue an item with a deep story and challenging endeavors, not for the sake of others, or to look cool, but for my own enjoyment.

The underlying problem is that GW2 doesn’t reward effort.

You can buy your way through anything and someone who plays the TP for profit wins. The person who plays all content gets shafted. There is nothing legendary about it.

Someone said they don’t want to craft. But the point of achievement is that you have to do something for it to get it. That’s what the OP is on about. If you don’t want to craft, that’s fine. But it also means you don’t get the legendary.

It’s like wanting a diploma from school. So, you could complain that you don’t like to study or follow classes but you won’t get the diploma without it. GW2 is the fake university where you can buy your diploma. It does the trick in a sense, but you don’t really get a sense of achievement from it.

GW2 lacks real achievement and rewards for it. Anything that you can buy aswell invalidates the effort others might’ve put in.

The argument that you shouldn’t compare yourself to others is denying human nature. We always compare ourselves and we want to be able to show something to let people know we did what it took. Why else have medals at the Olympics for example.

Now if someone has a legendary, people will say, oh he probably bought it with cash. Instead of saying, wow, this guy managed to get a legendary together. That’s the effect legendary items should have in my view.

Gestankfaust.4216:

And Im talking about if I don’t want to ever craft, what should I do? If I sweat more than you, but don’t want to craft, cause I earned the gold…..?

I feel you when you grief over some money bags just buying one. I feel you this I I much.

Alright, I’m really not sure what you’re trying to say. I think there’s a bit of a communication gap here. But I’m not trying to show favor towards crafting, in fact, I’m actually suggesting that the T6 crafting mats should be taken out of legendary weapons.

What I am saying is that legendary weapons become story driven items. I’m suggesting that there are missions, or story driven systems attached to assembling your legendary item. Maybe turn the way you obtain a legendary weapon in to a sort of an achievement checklist. It should be a long and challenging journey that takes you through all aspects of the game, and in turn you become a GW2 legend.

Like Gehenna said, it should be an achievement, like a gold Olympic medal is.

Azjenco.9425:

Sleel.8365:

So what? Grind your face off for comps, or grind your face off for gold to buy it. Still grinding the same time, just for a diff reward using a diff path. Point?

The point is, should it be a grind. People seem to pull their shoulders up on this issue a lot, while others are hotly contested against this fact.

I am and will remain certain that there are better ways to build your legendary weapon. Tasks, achievements and components specifically tailored towards each legendary weapon, all of which are story driven in such a way to give each legendary weapon it’s own identity. Rather that than merely throwing all of the rarest mats already used by other crafting items, and being content to have players rummage through those to pass the time.

Shouldn’t legendaries be more legendary than merely functioning of off the droppings of other lesser gear.

Yes, but your post was about people putting theirs up for sale and people buying them. Takes a lot of work either way. Either way is a waste as far as I’m concerned. All that time regardless of how for a skin seems a brain damaged waste of time when my exotic has the same stats.
Hell, should be part of “your story” in some way. Use the bits you get off the various bosses along the way or some such. But if someone wants to sell it, so what.

I’ve seen em in WvW. Got shot up by rainbows. Oh joy. Will never see how burning off hours upon hours of time will be worth a bow shooting rainbows. Or any of the rest of them I’ve seen. But they say they working on more skins, maybe I see one I like yet. After all, pigs can fly when you load them into a catapult, for a while :P

Sleel.8365:

Yes, but your post was about people putting theirs up for sale and people buying them. Takes a lot of work either way.

Except if you buy gems and trade them to gold to buy the legendary. The ratio between hours spent in game to get a legendary or hours spent making the real life money to buy gems doesn’t compare at all.

So, there will be people running around showing off their legendaries that put in the work and then those who simply bought them via real cash.

I can imagine that people who worked for it in game might feel a bit cheated. All in all the karma system should provide unique rewards that are only attainable via karma. That side of the game is not used nearly enough. A missed opportunity.

Gehenna.3625:

Sleel.8365:

Yes, but your post was about people putting theirs up for sale and people buying them. Takes a lot of work either way.

Except if you buy gems and trade them to gold to buy the legendary. The ratio between hours spent in game to get a legendary or hours spent making the real life money to buy gems doesn’t compare at all.

So, there will be people running around showing off their legendaries that put in the work and then those who simply bought them via real cash.

I can imagine that people who worked for it in game might feel a bit cheated. All in all the karma system should provide unique rewards that are only attainable via karma. That side of the game is not used nearly enough. A missed opportunity.

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Yeeeanhhhh. Like the random shlep running round knows how anyone got their legendary. And if I paid real money (aka: lost my frigging mind) to buy a skin, don’t see how that cheats anyone. Never mind the amount of real money buying those gems would mean. I sold a small amount of my gems, to get the kinda gold a legendary costs, that thing better come to my house, cook clean and pleasure me. If they want to trade the time they worked for real money verses the time they worked for virtual money, they still taking time from somewhere in they life. Hell, wasting the amount of time it takes to get a piece of fluff is the cheat. Never hear making a legendary described as anything but as grinding for my legendary. Grinding isn’t fun. Isn’t fun = cheated out of money you paid to have fun. Grinding for fluff that has no meaning beyond “lookit!”……… well, to me, that = dumb as a bag of hammers. But I don’t value fluff, or the supposed respect of others legendaries are purported to endear.

Cheating other people out of their accomplishment. Fah. Not sure how grinding and playing roulette with the Mystic Toilet is an accomplishment.

Agree on the karma tho. Could be more robust, hell, should be. Not sure what I’m gonna use mine for since I haven’t seen a legendary worth getting, by grind or TP. Well, insignias for my crafting, but that only uses so much, eh. Bah, rambled enuff, this drifting.

What might help make Legendary weapons more meaningful is if among the components are items only found in jumping puzzles, items only found on the dragons, and those useless items you get when you complete some of the personal story missions.

So yeah i have people on my guild who plays 6+ (3k+ achievs) per day and working their kitten off for a legendary and are still far away to get it. Then u see people with 1.5k achievs and with 200h played and with a legendary. In my opinions thats just dumb. Wasting money that cost their kitten to earn with a skin is kitten Hell, even if the stats were better, it would still be kitten derp. So what i think is that people who have all the JP’s done, all the mini puzzles, and some hard achs to get should be rewarded and not those who waste their money on a casual game. And its not a question off being rich or not, its a question of being smart. I guess some peole just arent.

The only legendary thing in this game is my GWAMM. And my Legend of the Mists title.

Too bad people can’t see them.

Well, for those who crafts their own legendary there are materials where gold can’t buy such as skill points, karma and badge of honor.

LOL yes is reasonable IF your life depends on having a legendary to play the game. Or if you have too much money and must spend it on a game instead of spending it with yout family or with your children. Or if if you like to spend your money in a skin than traveling and meet new people. My point is: ok game is out, u buy it and ur like “this is the best thing i have ever played”. 2 Months later u are bored. But u are like “z0mg kitten derp i must get Twilight” Ok u spend you rreal money on a skin (lolz) then 1 year later a better game is out. People start quitting gw2 (they already did) and u find yourself at Orr, the endgame zone, alone. (I already do). But hey u spend your money on a skin that most people dont give a kitten So yeah, if you think you are rich and like to spend money with a kitten company than with your family than my friend you have your priorities all wrong.

To flat out buy the gems woth real cash to get the 2000g you need to buy a legendary would cost you over £1600 in British Sterling at the moment. That is more than the average monthly wage in the UK at the moment.

Is there any evidence beyond anecdotal that anyone has actually been stupid enough to do this?

Hey guys, I am the only one shocked by PM of goldsellers selling Twilight at 700$ ? This game is becoming like Diablo…

pricer.5091:

To flat out buy the gems woth real cash to get the 2000g you need to buy a legendary would cost you over £1600 in British Sterling at the moment. That is more than the average monthly wage in the UK at the moment.

Is there any evidence beyond anecdotal that anyone has actually been stupid enough to do this?

The post three above yours probably gives us a clue.

Was this thread really needed? Hasn’t this dead horse been thrashed enough in umpteen threads since the first Legendary was spotten on the TP a few weeks ago?

Forums are here for us to give our personal opinion. Sorry if i went too far way but thats my opinion about Legendaries.

It made many people lose faith in the company.
Whatever that fella’s name from Nexon that’s running the show, he made a clear stand where he’s taking this business model with the legendaries decision.

Such a shame too, well no wonder the company got sold to the creators of Maple Story.

Prepare, this is just the beginning unless Anet start to treat their dedicated players with more respect and less like a bunch of idiots.

How is this different from GW1 where obsidian was bought with ectos and obsidian, both of which were readily available from the traders?

marnick.4305:

How is this different from GW1 where obsidian was bought with ectos and obsidian, both of which were readily available from the traders?

Obsidian armor didn’t require gift of mastery.
Let’s face something here – the only people who will be willing to pay a legendary’s 1.5 ~ 2x the price are people who bought gold either from Anet or black market, simply because they can, and to avoid the only part of the weapon that actually requires a mastery of the game to some extent.

Putting gold aside, they are pretty much spitting in anyone’s face who worked hard towards his badges, skill points, 100% world completion and karma gain.

This also resulted all the precursor spiking in prices once again thanks to players making large profits off them. Creating an even larger gap between the dedicated vs the “wise” players.

And just in case you might think I’m some kind of poor beggar complaining, I’d like to direct you to my thread here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/crafting/A-legendary-routine/first#post1250705

Have a great day.

they’re already cheap to my eyes lol in LA you see some1 with legendary GS/rifle/dagger/staff in every corner possible, they don’t feel special at all.

I think that a legendary should be soulbound/account bound from the get-go. But despite that, I really think there should be more meaning to obtaining a legendary weapon. I wrote a post in the suggestions forum the other day outlining my ideas for introducing Ascended armor in a story-driven way. I’d be a lot happier if this is how Legendaries were obtained too. They currently just require grinding, and while some components make sense, it would be nice for it to be explained/rationalized and gathered with a sense of purpose. Check this out.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Ascended-Armor-Personal-Storyline-etc/first#post1243414

Yet another Legendary post….please would you look back through the forums before making posts about things that have been talked about, at length, many many times.

Knox.3748:

LOL yes is reasonable IF your life depends on having a legendary to play the game. Or if you have too much money and must spend it on a game instead of spending it with yout family or with your children. Or if if you like to spend your money in a skin than traveling and meet new people. My point is: ok game is out, u buy it and ur like “this is the best thing i have ever played”. 2 Months later u are bored. But u are like “z0mg kitten kitten i must get Twilight” Ok u spend you rreal money on a skin (lolz) then 1 year later a better game is out. People start quitting gw2 (they already did) and u find yourself at Orr, the endgame zone, alone. (I already do). But hey u spend your money on a skin that most people dont give a kitten So yeah, if you think you are rich and like to spend money with a kitten company than with your family than my friend you have your priorities all wrong.

You mean spending it ON your family or children, which is of course dependant on if you HAVE a family or children… obvious counter-point is obvious.

And no one is saying their life is dependent on owning a legendary lol, many will tell you it’s just one aspect of “endgame” or a long term goal they feel stacks badly with other issues the game has and ultimately just serves to cheapen itself and thus become pointless. When people run out of things to do, and given legendary weapons are long term goals that would keep them playing away, you can’t blame them being a bit miffed and possibly leaving. Oh but I hear you say “good riddance” is it? well if that’s the case then by all means i’ll be taking a screenshot of that response and in a few months linking you to it again to rub salt in the wounds lol.

Then you kinda degenerate into rambling and how you want your friends and family to stop buying virtual goods and buy you more shinies or…. something… I dunno I honestly can’t decipher it :/

If you’re bored of an mmo in 2 months, MAYBE just MAYBE. There’s a problem with the game that needs addressing, and legendary weapons are part of it?? <_< how did this possibility escape you?

I’d rather they not be sellable.

That said, it doesn’t really matter that much. It’s more expensive to buy one than make it yourself, it’s just a matter of whether you’d rather pay extra by buying it on the TP, or save x hundreds of gold by making it yourself but needing the tokens, karma, skill points etc.

For most, buying would likely only be preferable for those on their 3rd, 4th etc legendary where they might not have racked up all the karma/skill points etc to do it yet again.

Riss.1536:

Hey guys, I am the only one shocked by PM of goldsellers selling Twilight at 700$ ? This game is becoming like Diablo…

Yes i got the same mail, Gold farmers are now selling every Legendary, just awesome…

Minion of Vey.4398:

I’d rather they not be sellable.

That said, it doesn’t really matter that much. It’s more expensive to buy one than make it yourself, it’s just a matter of whether you’d rather pay extra by buying it on the TP, or save x hundreds of gold by making it yourself but needing the tokens, karma, skill points etc.

For most, buying would likely only be preferable for those on their 3rd, 4th etc legendary where they might not have racked up all the karma/skill points etc to do it yet again.

Unless a jackpot precursor falls on me from the sky, my 4th one might be in 2014.
I’m totally burnt out on that section.

Yep, maybe if people get bored after 2 months and they need to get a long term skin to have an end game goal maybe, JUST MAYBE, the game has a problem with content. As far as i know im still playing this because: 1. Guild 2. WvW.

Btw where is the part of my shinies? Why are u quoting things i didnt write ? Are you just sad or something? I dunno, i honestly cant decipher it :/ And like you said MAYBE, just MAYBE, forums exist so that people can give their opinion about things. U dont like mine? Quote as much as you want. Just dont write things i havent. Another counter-point is that its obvious that u can spend your money better than in one skin. Even if you dont have a life, you can get one if you are rich. I hope your not one of those who visits pvpbank………. Anet should check some transactions from both EU server and NA server. They would find some sad people Ah and mods, you should start blocking the pm’s people are receiving instead of deleting topics from users, us, who play your game.

Chrno.2340:

Time is a valuable commodity, I rather spent the RL money to buy legionaries and use my time enjoying the fun aspects of the game, rather than grinding for mats. So yeah .. being rich (money wise)in RL rules.

For starters, I have a hard time believing that someone who is truely “rich in RL” would be bragging about that over a video game forum. I also have a hard time believing that your choice of words are those of a rich man.

Secondly, if time is such a valuable commodity to you AND you’re rich, how can you bring yourself to spending the time and money to buy your way to a mmo being more like facebook with an avatar and call that “enjoying the fun aspects of the game” on their forums? I would be too busy sailing my yacht and romancing women around the world to be bothered with playing a mmo to begin with.

The last point I’ll make is that you don’t have to be rich to buy a legendary in GW2. All you need is to have priorities similiar to the guy who lives in a trailer park and drives a newer corvette.

If you can buy it, it’s not legendary in my book. Knowing myself that I did a lot of effort, doesn’t meet the description of legendary. That’s about bragging rights. Like it or not, that’s what it’s about. But if you can buy it, then you take the bragging element away since most people will just think you bought it, cause it’s possible.

There should be gear that you can show off that are only linked to in game achievements. Items that simply cannot be bought but require effort in game to show you actually did it. That’s the sort of bragging rights I am talking about.

Knox.3748:

Yep, maybe if people get bored after 2 months and they need to get a long term skin to have an end game goal maybe, JUST MAYBE, the game has a problem with content. As far as i know im still playing this because: 1. Guild 2. WvW.

Btw where is the part of my shinies? Why are u quoting things i didnt write ? Are you just sad or something? I dunno, i honestly cant decipher it :/ And like you said MAYBE, just MAYBE, forums exist so that people can give their opinion about things. U dont like mine? Quote as much as you want. Just dont write things i havent. Another counter-point is that its obvious that u can spend your money better than in one skin. Even if you dont have a life, you can get one if you are rich. I hope your not one of those who visits pvpbank………. Anet should check some transactions from both EU server and NA server. They would find some sad people Ah and mods, you should start blocking the pm’s people are receiving instead of deleting topics from users, us, who play your game.

1: Those are YOUR reasons. Not everyone SHARES those reasons. I might not be a big fan of guild activities, or deem it less worthwhile due to the game lacking in decent content, I might for example also think WVW is a huge waste of both time, effort, resources and horribly full of boring zergs. Just because YOU have those positives and don’t agree with the negatives doesn’t mean they DON’T EXIST in other aspects of the game.

2: My comment was based on the fact you brought up a completely asinine point which then descended into what I considered rambling. How someone CHOOSES to spend their cash, or where to be more precise is NONE of your business and there WILL be players that spend it on legendary weapons be it through A-Net or Sellers.
Stating they’ve got their priorities wrong, when they’re not your priorities is simply not ok and narrow minded. unless the goal was to attempt to make a straw man of the argument, in which case, bravo.

3: Again you end up hinting towards ad-hominem responses here, “sad players” etc is of course a large insight into your mentality, you can consider them “sad” all you like, and I won’t argue with you to a degree, but ultimately that doesn’t stop them degrading an item which many would consider to be a prestigious achievement you shouldn’t be able to buy your way to in terms of acquisition. You’re looking at it from the point of “I don’t care” which is fine, but don’t post on the issue if it doesn’t affect you either way, go back to sneering at them in-game and telling yourself that it’s all ok.

In my opinion, Legendary Weapons should be given out when you get full map completion, full dungeon completion, full story completion and full achievement completion (Ignoring PvP ones). Then you get an account bound weapon. Only then do I really consider you going on an epic journey to unlock your legendary weapon. The current system is a grind, not an adventure.

I actually dont whiser peole who i dont play in game. So, with this, i use foruns to write MY OPINION. MINE AND ONLY. So i think this is the reason we all post on foruns. Each one of us as an opinion and i gave mine about a matter. U just atacked me because i have an opinion. So i wont reply anymore since u didnt add nothing to topic.

Knox.3748:

I actually dont whiser peole who i dont play in game. So, with this, i use foruns to write MY OPINION. MINE AND ONLY. So i think this is the reason we all post on foruns. Each one of us as an opinion and i gave mine about a matter. U just atacked me because i have an opinion. So i wont reply anymore since u didnt add nothing to topic.

THAT, is a complete and utter lie. I didn’t “attack” you, you simply tried to belittle what some consider a large issue with the game and it’s that kind of attitude which I personally cannot abide by, it wasn’t supposed to insult you it was to get you to perhaps realize that you’re NOT looking at the bigger picture. I actually apologize if it came across that way but the points you brought up simply weren’t relevant I felt.

Yes, bank robbers are bad people who rob banks, but us saying they’re bad people and probably “sad” doesn’t stop them causing a problem does it? you’re entitled to your own opinion, but to belittle the issue in it, just seems to be a bit of a stretch.

I will go on to state that even though I was not trying to “attack” you, by posting your opinion on the big bad internet, you do leave yourself open to it being analyzed and responded to, that’s all that happened here and you shouldn’t feel so offended by it.

PS. of course I didn’t add nothing to the topc, I added SOMETHING to it.

Gehenna.3625:

Sleel.8365:

Yes, but your post was about people putting theirs up for sale and people buying them. Takes a lot of work either way.

Except if you buy gems and trade them to gold to buy the legendary. The ratio between hours spent in game to get a legendary or hours spent making the real life money to buy gems doesn’t compare at all.

So, there will be people running around showing off their legendaries that put in the work and then those who simply bought them via real cash.

I can imagine that people who worked for it in game might feel a bit cheated. All in all the karma system should provide unique rewards that are only attainable via karma. That side of the game is not used nearly enough. A missed opportunity.

It cost like $700+ and upwards to $1400 to buy enough gold from a gold selling sight to buy a legendary from the TP. I highly doubt we will see that many people who are willing to spend that kind of money

eisberg.2379:

Gehenna.3625:

Sleel.8365:

Yes, but your post was about people putting theirs up for sale and people buying them. Takes a lot of work either way.

Except if you buy gems and trade them to gold to buy the legendary. The ratio between hours spent in game to get a legendary or hours spent making the real life money to buy gems doesn’t compare at all.

So, there will be people running around showing off their legendaries that put in the work and then those who simply bought them via real cash.

I can imagine that people who worked for it in game might feel a bit cheated. All in all the karma system should provide unique rewards that are only attainable via karma. That side of the game is not used nearly enough. A missed opportunity.

It cost like $700+ and upwards to $1400 to buy enough gold from a gold selling sight to buy a legendary from the TP. I highly doubt we will see that many people who are willing to spend that kind of money

Think again. There’s a game design term called a whale. It’s people who get so invested in a game that they spend literally thousands of dollars in game on it. And don’t think that GW2 is immune or not good enough. People do this with games like farmville. I know for a fact that some people have spent hundreds of dollars on this game already through microtransactions. There DEFINITELY people who have spent thousands.

eisberg.2379:

Gehenna.3625:

Sleel.8365:

Yes, but your post was about people putting theirs up for sale and people buying them. Takes a lot of work either way.

Except if you buy gems and trade them to gold to buy the legendary. The ratio between hours spent in game to get a legendary or hours spent making the real life money to buy gems doesn’t compare at all.

So, there will be people running around showing off their legendaries that put in the work and then those who simply bought them via real cash.

I can imagine that people who worked for it in game might feel a bit cheated. All in all the karma system should provide unique rewards that are only attainable via karma. That side of the game is not used nearly enough. A missed opportunity.

It cost like $700+ and upwards to $1400 to buy enough gold from a gold selling sight to buy a legendary from the TP. I highly doubt we will see that many people who are willing to spend that kind of money

I find it quite mind boggling that anyone would spend that kind of real currency for a virtual item. Really, I don’t even believe anyone would.

Creeper.9360:

eisberg.2379:

Gehenna.3625:

Sleel.8365:

Yes, but your post was about people putting theirs up for sale and people buying them. Takes a lot of work either way.

Except if you buy gems and trade them to gold to buy the legendary. The ratio between hours spent in game to get a legendary or hours spent making the real life money to buy gems doesn’t compare at all.

So, there will be people running around showing off their legendaries that put in the work and then those who simply bought them via real cash.

I can imagine that people who worked for it in game might feel a bit cheated. All in all the karma system should provide unique rewards that are only attainable via karma. That side of the game is not used nearly enough. A missed opportunity.

It cost like $700+ and upwards to $1400 to buy enough gold from a gold selling sight to buy a legendary from the TP. I highly doubt we will see that many people who are willing to spend that kind of money

I find it quite mind boggling that anyone would spend that kind of real currency for a virtual item. Really, I don’t even believe anyone would.

I’m in college for game design. You learn about people like this. They are very very real. The term is whale. It’s how facebook and app games make their money. Most of the money comes from a small portion of the player base. Literally thousands of dollars…on Farmville.

If legendaries were actually something other then an RNG grind, then the OP has a point. But Legendaries are nothing more then an RNG grind, and there is nothing really special about getting one. So being sold on the TP or grinding through the RNG, either way neither really is anything special.

So the real issue isn’t about it being sold on the TP, the real issue is that there is no meaningful way to obtain one, there is nothing special about getting a legendary.

I would be all for advocating taking out the RNG to obtaining one, and make it some kind of epic story line and or achievements to obtain one. IF they did that, then I would be all for being account bound. But as long as it is nothing special to get one, and nothing more then an RNG grind, I say having them for sale on the TP makes no difference, either way it is a grind.

The Gates Assassin.9827:

Creeper.9360:

eisberg.2379:

Gehenna.3625:

Sleel.8365:

Yes, but your post was about people putting theirs up for sale and people buying them. Takes a lot of work either way.

Except if you buy gems and trade them to gold to buy the legendary. The ratio between hours spent in game to get a legendary or hours spent making the real life money to buy gems doesn’t compare at all.

So, there will be people running around showing off their legendaries that put in the work and then those who simply bought them via real cash.

I can imagine that people who worked for it in game might feel a bit cheated. All in all the karma system should provide unique rewards that are only attainable via karma. That side of the game is not used nearly enough. A missed opportunity.

It cost like $700+ and upwards to $1400 to buy enough gold from a gold selling sight to buy a legendary from the TP. I highly doubt we will see that many people who are willing to spend that kind of money

I find it quite mind boggling that anyone would spend that kind of real currency for a virtual item. Really, I don’t even believe anyone would.

I’m in college for game design. You learn about people like this. They are very very real. The term is whale. It’s how facebook and app games make their money. Most of the money comes from a small portion of the player base. Literally thousands of dollars…on Farmville.

It really is all irrelevant, if anybody wants to spend real life money to get the “best” items in the game, they will find a way to do it. One can easily spend real life money to get all the best gear in WoW as well. In other words, it wouldn’t matter if Legendaries were account bound only, someone with money could still get the legendary with real money, whether that is through paying for a service to do the grind for them, or just buying a max level character with the legendary already.

So talking about gold selling services really is irrelevant to the issue at hand.