Guild Wars 2

Hi,

Since megaserver introduction so many people playing every world event in same map and I don’t get any loot from any Boss/Champ , just getting event chests, if I’m not in a party. It doesn’t matter which character I use guardian or necro.

World event as in like the Shatterer,Tequatl, etc.? Because NOTHING drops loot i believe in those events.

Ulgoth and including his champs , Maw, Arah and similar ones. Every time same thing if I’m not in party, this only happens in very crowded events, so now a days every event is crowded due to megaserver implementation.

Get zerker gear. I can tag anything without a group on my guardian.

I suggest as a necro use WELLS and AXES because well for me is the best bet to tag a champ.

For those big world events I’d recommend being in a party. Being in a party usually means you’ll get loot from the mobs.

Thanks, I will try your suggestion. Already running my necro with condition build and axe. without buff I have Power 2k, Pre 2k, CC %54,Ferocity 537,CD 849 using p/f/p axe.

Stalker.7605:

Thanks, I will try your suggestion. Already running my necro with condition build and axe

there’s your problem

I’m trying to be in a party every time by telling lfg in chat, few people accept it and generally forced to play without a party. For example again in yesterday Karka queen same happened, cleared 4 settlements with people nobody accepted me in a party and got no loot from karka queen except the chests. I don’t get it why being in a party counted as boosted damage and loot in game , that’s not fair. That’s why I started rarely playing pve events and spend more time in wvw where easy to being in a party.

K, he’s what you need to do if you want to farm the world events.

1. Play your guardian. It’s just better in open world pve. Staff 1 is ezmode aoe tagging, scepter works when you need to range something like when the megadestroyer is sitting in the lava, greatsword or sword for single targets. You also have access to easy stability and blocks to avoid annoying things like fears and knockbacks.

2. Zerker gear. Conditions don’t do anything when you already have 50+ people automatically applying burning and bleeding to the cap. Soldier gear is technically equivalent on targets you can’t crit, like the shatterer, but there’s no real reason to have tanky gear when you shouldn’t be taking much damage and have 50+ people there to revive you if you get downed anyway.

3. Don’t ask for a party, click on people and invite them and say lfm. Take the initiative, you will get a group.

Thanks a lot Blix I’m gonna try it.

Blix.8021:

K, he’s what you need to do if you want to farm the world events.

1. Play your guardian. It’s just better in open world pve. Staff 1 is ezmode aoe tagging, scepter works when you need to range something like when the megadestroyer is sitting in the lava, greatsword or sword for single targets. You also have access to easy stability and blocks to avoid annoying things like fears and knockbacks.

2. Zerker gear. Conditions don’t do anything when you already have 50+ people automatically applying burning and bleeding to the cap. Soldier gear is technically equivalent on targets you can’t crit, like the shatterer, but there’s no real reason to have tanky gear when you shouldn’t be taking much damage and have 50+ people there to revive you if you get downed anyway.

3. Don’t ask for a party, click on people and invite them and say lfm. Take the initiative, you will get a group.

Yup, I’d recommend all of that.

I don’t understand how gear enters into any of this, inform me please. I just put on armor I like. What’s all this stacking? I like stacks of cash. But really, other than me randomly googling kitten online can someone lead me to a comprehensive readable list of all this stuff?

Omar Aschi Popp.7496:

I don’t understand how gear enters into any of this, inform me please. I just put on armor I like. What’s all this stacking? I like stacks of cash. But really, other than me randomly googling kitten online can someone lead me to a comprehensive readable list of all this stuff?

Of course. Gear enters into the equation because to get credit for a kill, you need to do a certain amount of damage to it. If a zerg is fighting a monster, and you only get 1 hit in that only does 100 damage, you are not going to get credit for that kill.

So how does being in a party help? When you are grouped, the damage your party does counts as damage you do toward reaching that “kill credit” amount, as long as you hit it at least once.

To get credit for a kill then, you should use power not condition damage (condition damage is terrible for tagging monsters; it takes too long for the conditions to get to the “kill credit” amount, and you compete with other players conditions.)

But my gear comes from drops, and it’s kind of silly, that my work means nothing because out of a crowd of people with all legendary/ascended gear, I’m there fighting with Koss’ Chestguard, and Human cultural armor(t2).

This makes me feel like I’m just wasting my time and efforts even fighting.

unfortunately, getting the champ boxes during these 100+ people zergs, is 50/50 regardless of gear.

i run full zerk and strength runes with theif and warr…and am able to keep up 15-20 might stacks on my own….so i’m almost always at a full 25 might. party or no party, gear is almost irrelevant (as long as you have about 2000 power and do enough dmg).

not sure exactly how one triggers champ loot when zerg is that large. some say its more important to hit the champ first…..that only the first 50-ish of the zerg who do enough dmg will get the loot……and if you where too slow on the draw, it doesn’t matter how much dmg you ended up doing.

while not proof, my experience supports this. before megaserver, this was a rare thing that only happened in large prime-time zergs………..now, since large zergs gather at all hrs, the problem is much worse.

My guess is that it’s a bug……but they’ll hide behind the “you need to do enough dmg” half-truth and not fix it.

Blix.8021:

Stalker.7605:

Thanks, I will try your suggestion. Already running my necro with condition build and axe

there’s your problem

No. Actually it’s ANet’s problem.

In any case, I’ve not gotten loot off of Ulgoth or his champions sometimes whilst on my zerker warrior. This is a frustrating problem that needs to be fixed. A party to get loot off a champion, regardless of what profession you’re playing, shouldn’t be mandatory.

On Maw, the biggest things are:
1. do not rez anyone! takes away from your personal deps
2. do not close portals, immediately go to the boss and start pounding on him.
those two things sadly should get you a champ box in addition to the main chest and little shaky chest in the corner.

Haven’t done Modnir Ulgoth, due to others complaints. Orr is a problem with the defense/offense issues. I don’t join random parties often, altho I hear it’s better for the loot. My toons are mainly Zerkers.

My ref to #1 is probably one of the saddest thing about the megaserver World Boss issues ( which Anet has ignored and not responded). Everyone vying for the teeniest little loot has made players into piranha – but there’s only so much to go around. People rarely revive others, although I tell myself not to do so it’s been ingrained in me. <g>

Do far it’s a crapshoot, unless you follow steps #1 and 2.
Thanks Anet!

I’ve come in to a kaka queen even when it was at half HP already. There were so many players it caused skill lag and for once my GPU fans actually spun up.

Despite wearing WvW gear, and having a WvW build, and using a ranged weapon, I still got kill credit and a chest.

I can’t imagine what sort of gear and build the OP was using to not get credit, I really can’t. Even auto attacking with an axe in the worst build possible should have been enough to get a chest.

Encountered two bosses in the Cursed Shore map that never seem to drop any loot. One is a solo boss (near statue of Balthazar) & another boss in either Cathedral of Verdance or Arah.

There are 2 conditions you must meet in order to receive kill credit on any given enemy:

1. You have to accumulate a certain amount of damage against it.
(Working as intended)
2. In large zergs, you have to be one of the first to accumulate that amount of damage against it.
(Hopefully not working as intended, and not many people know about this)

Once a champ or vet spawns around a large number of players, it becomes a race to land the first hits. Full groups have a severe advantage and place in the race 5x as fast and take up 5 credit slots.

The issue is, you can give it everything you’ve got and do 10x more damage than the average auto-attacker and still not get credit. Even if you were around for 90% of the fight.

Odin of Ark.4860:

World event as in like the Shatterer,Tequatl, etc.? Because NOTHING drops loot i believe in those events.

They do drop – sorry you are wrong. You actually need to do damage to them in order to get drops, just not be in the area.

You obviously do not play the game.

dkspins.4670:

On Maw, the biggest things are:
1. do not rez anyone! takes away from your personal deps
2. do not close portals, immediately go to the boss and start pounding on him.
those two things sadly should get you a champ box in addition to the main chest and little shaky chest in the corner.

Haven’t done Modnir Ulgoth, due to others complaints. Orr is a problem with the defense/offense issues. I don’t join random parties often, altho I hear it’s better for the loot. My toons are mainly Zerkers.

My ref to #1 is probably one of the saddest thing about the megaserver World Boss issues ( which Anet has ignored and not responded). Everyone vying for the teeniest little loot has made players into piranha – but there’s only so much to go around. People rarely revive others, although I tell myself not to do so it’s been ingrained in me. <g>

Do far it’s a crapshoot, unless you follow steps #1 and 2.
Thanks Anet!

That’s messed up man…

But I am going to start following this.
Rezing was sort of something I always thought was a priority, because you know, teamwork. Guess I was just a chump.

Seriously, the damage required is NOT that high to tag a World Boss….some of you are exaggerating the amount of damage needed to get credit. If you actually ATTACK the boss with some skills rather than auto attack with 1 constantly, you just MIGHT do enough damage.

Now if you are in full Condition Damage mode, I can see this being an issue for some players. Obtaining better equipment (Exotic) is NOT difficult in this game so why would anyone be using “drop” equipment? If you are not yet LVL 80, then Zerging these World Bosses is going to be an issue….run EotM to 80, get some better equipment (or alternate equipment) and then this will not be an issue.

Dusty Moon.4382:

Odin of Ark.4860:

World event as in like the Shatterer,Tequatl, etc.? Because NOTHING drops loot i believe in those events.

They do drop – sorry you are wrong. You actually need to do damage to them in order to get drops, just not be in the area.

You obviously do not play the game.

He means that the mobs themselves, in the case of Shatterer or Tequatl or Shadow Behemoth (just as examples), do not drop loot that you can get from their corpses. And he’s right.

Thank you guys, changed my necro build/sigils for higher dps and now I can get loot bags from boss/champs again without being in a party. All of my 5 characters are lvl80 so I’m gonna change my warrior build to zerker for pve now.

LandStander.7094 wrote: "So how does being in a party help? When you are grouped, the damage your party does counts as damage you do toward reaching that “kill credit” amount, as long as you hit it at least once."

This runs contrary to what a dev said on these forums a little over a year ago. I’ve tried finding the post for hours with no luck, so no, I can’t link to it. The dev was commenting on running solo vs running with a party and specifically said that your rewards would be the same regardless. Do you have evidence that this is true, or is it speculation based on experience?

After doing the Trio in Frostgorge several times without getting the bonus chest for completing all 3 within the time limit, I posted a similar question here and it was suggested that I switch to zerker or similar gear with power as the first stat. Without being in a party but with using my zerker gear on my guardian, I started getting the bonus chest more often. Not 100% of the time, but more often than not.

Since I was doing it for the loot and wasn’t getting it 100% of the time, I stopped doing the world boss train entirely. I’ll jump in for a few champs when I’m gathering mats in Frostgorge, but it’s no longer a staple of my game play. When Season 2 of WvW started, I began playing a lot more WvW to complete the Season 2 meta, and noticed that I got as much or more loot than I was getting in PvE. I added the birthday booster to get my WvW level up faster, and that’s when the rares and exotics began piling up. My magic find stat without boosters is 129% currently, so the birthday booster improved that drastically. It seemed I leveled up with each keep or camp taken, and each level up chest gives 16-25 silver, Badges of Honor, and loot. My best evening was a 4 hour stint in WvW that netted 10 gold in rares and exotics sold on the TP, and I kept the 2 best exotics (with the best sell prices) for myself (which, oddly enough, were http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Honor_of_Humanity and http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Firebringer in the same night!).