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Posted by: XacTactX.6709

XacTactX.6709

After the might and engi/ele nerfs.

Anet likely didn’t want to remove the armor stats entirely because…well,
we’ve all seen what happens in games where there’s no disadvantage to taking your pants off.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

engis and eles duhh

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

Minion Master. :}

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Posted by: Shadelang.3012

Shadelang.3012

man…MM was NEVER op. just people made the same idiotic mistakes people make when fighting turret engis.

The fact that you would even say that about the most bugged build in the game atm is just….wow….

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

man…MM was NEVER op. just people made the same idiotic mistakes people make when fighting turret engis.

The fact that you would even say that about the most bugged build in the game atm is just….wow….

Cough -All I play is MM- I’m just goofing around. I love MM. In fact, it has taken some low blows that really kitten me off, like them dying when you go down for some reason. And not attacking. And taking long paths. Doesn’t matter though. It’ll always be OP in my heart <3 So many tears.

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Posted by: Shadelang.3012

Shadelang.3012

Fair enough then. I assumed you were just one more of the “AI OP” crowd that cries when they rush moronically into a swarm of semi stationary mobs and wonder why there dieing because tehy cant pay attention to the explosive bone minion they literally WALKED into.

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Posted by: XacTactX.6709

XacTactX.6709

Seriously I need to know! I can’t win without being carried by an OP build!

Anet likely didn’t want to remove the armor stats entirely because…well,
we’ve all seen what happens in games where there’s no disadvantage to taking your pants off.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

Fair enough then. I assumed you were just one more of the “AI OP” crowd that cries when they rush moronically into a swarm of semi stationary mobs and wonder why there dieing because tehy cant pay attention to the explosive bone minion they literally WALKED into.

Nope. I’ve tried to explain it logically to many people:
- Pets have no Condi clear, and die fast from them.
- Don’t avoid AOE even if you dodge.
- Are stupid, bad pathing, bad attack sequencing.
- MMs have the worst anti-CC (no breaks, stability, extra evades, etc)
- No mobility
- Are essentially traitless necros without pets.
- Now pets die on down, and we’re a relatively easy focus target.
- Our team play is already trash because of aoe spam.
- Moa kills all pets.
- It provides a more interesting playstyle, which is just the opposite of most classes. Instead of relying on boons and other passive defenses and active burst, we have relatively (about 50%) passive damage and have to focus on keeping pets alive, CCing the enemy for our own safty, and avoiding deadly CCs while assisting on damage between those.

Doesn’t matter. Tears or not though, and all the poor functioning and lack of sympathy from others and the devs, don’t care. I still love my MM.

Do wish they’d get the turret treatment though and make them immune to conditions. That’d be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

Seriously I need to know! I can’t win without being carried by an OP build!

I really can show you how to roll some nublets with MM though. :}

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Posted by: hihey.1075

hihey.1075

I’m all for more Minion Masters and less Turret Engis, to be honest. Both are braindead to the bone though.

With Ele nerfed, I think the new “top of the charts” build is Cele Rifle Engi. And don’t underestimate the new Rangers’ Torch buff: it can now cover the whole point, and with Bark Skin+Survival Of the Fittest it would prove a spec very difficult to kill, with a lot of Control due to lots of AoE Immobilizes and condi pressure.

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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

After the might and engi/ele nerfs.

Are you serious or joking about engi nerfs? 2 seconds is not a big deal.

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Posted by: Doomdesire.9365

Doomdesire.9365

Nothing changed. I don’t think Anet is wanting to make big balance changes because HoT is going to be released soon enough and that in itself should mean some big balance changes from new specializations and whatnot.

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Posted by: Vert.5041

Vert.5041

No changes in class ranks in terms of pvp effectiveness. Cele and might stacking classes are a bit less effective now and the gap between them and other specs is lowered but other than that no changes.

When I think OP, I think of risk/reward on classes and in that aspect turreteers are still king.

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

Laserbolt.6731

Nothing changed. I don’t think Anet is wanting to make big balance changes because HoT is going to be released soon enough and that in itself should mean some big balance changes from new specializations and whatnot.

I am not expecting Hot for at least 6 months, probably 11 months. This is ArenaNet. They had to announce it because of PAX, not because it is nearly ready to ship.

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Posted by: Vatt.4695

Vatt.4695

Moa destroy engi turrets?

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Define OP

3v3/4v4 zergs?
1v1/2v2 groups?

1v1/2v2 Category
Most Condi builds, phanta (some shatter) builds, spirit rangers, Minionmancer’s, knight wars w/ intel sigs,
spirit rangers, few celes eles.

3v3/4v4/5v5
Most Celestial builds, sustain builds, shout builds,
Any build that complements one another.

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Posted by: Loki.8793

Loki.8793

Nothing changed. I don’t think Anet is wanting to make big balance changes because HoT is going to be released soon enough and that in itself should mean some big balance changes from new specializations and whatnot.

I am not expecting Hot for at least 6 months, probably 11 months. This is ArenaNet. They had to announce it because of PAX, not because it is nearly ready to ship.

Given that HoT seems to be a direct continuation after the season 2 finale, I think you’re wrong. This seems planned to me. They didn’t announce it just because of Pax.

They are having a playable demo in 6 weeks and they have emphasized in interviews that things will be developing quickly. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see it released in 3-4 months. And we should be getting information on it “soon”.