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Posted by: coro.3176

coro.3176

Probably because the game isn’t balanced around 1v1 at all. Some classes & builds are just untouchable, or make for really lame duels.
Eg trying to kill a healbot ele with a class that can’t do enough damage. The duel just goes on forever and no one wins.

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Posted by: Rolisteel.1375

Rolisteel.1375

no 1v1 balance in this game. I think other free games offer better 1v1 balance and pvp balance. The unbalance/counters are so big in this game you can do anything and still don’t have any chance against some classes they just own you even if you are more skilled.

1v1 game mode = dh and warrior fest at top + mesmer druid rev probably

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

Open world dueling would open this game up and force Anet to improve their balance.

But since this is GW they should also add open world GvG.

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Posted by: Iain Ross.6903

Iain Ross.6903

1v1 matchups are rock paper scissors. Bad idea.

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Posted by: Taltevus.3289

Taltevus.3289

Yeah, I think I am ready for a 1v1 mode of a few types:
Pvp roulette: random players endless match ups: chat disabled.
Pvp Rank: A 1v1 match-up on a continuous loop of the classes (Not random). More wins equal higher rank.
Pvp Reflection: fight 1v1 against your current class endless not ranked random.
Pvp Rank&Reflection fight 1v1 against your own class for rank position relative to your individual class.

So bored with dysfunctional 3 way king of the hill.

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Posted by: KrHome.1920

KrHome.1920

1v1 matchups are rock paper scissors. Bad idea.

This!

Asking for a 1v1 arena just shows the lack of understanding how the game is balanced. Such a game mode would not be skill- but build-based.

Facing Power Rev? Switch to Condi Mes! Facing Scrapper? Switch to Reaper! …

(Btw.: I don’t like rock paper scissors and I would prefer balancing around 1v1.)

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Posted by: Taltevus.3289

Taltevus.3289

1v1 matchups are rock paper scissors. Bad idea.

This!

Asking for a 1v1 arena just shows the lack of understanding how the game is balanced. Such a game mode would not be skill- but build-based.

Facing Power Rev? Switch to Condi Mes! Facing Scrapper? Switch to Reaper! …

(Btw.: I don’t like rock paper scissors and I would prefer balancing around 1v1.)

So by your logic every one should just play rock paper scissors and no one shoots they just keep switching around like musical chairs?
Can you be any more short-sighted?

This does not show a lack of understanding on how the game is balanced.
You literally just made that up.

The reason if there were one right now that would hinder 1v1 in anyway that I might imagine is for the exact reason we don’t have much build diversity. There is some but not as much as I would like.

You literally just accused someone of having sub par logic and then expressed that same type of logic.

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with 1v1.

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Posted by: KrHome.1920

KrHome.1920

1v1 matchups are rock paper scissors. Bad idea.

This!

Asking for a 1v1 arena just shows the lack of understanding how the game is balanced. Such a game mode would not be skill- but build-based.

Facing Power Rev? Switch to Condi Mes! Facing Scrapper? Switch to Reaper! …

(Btw.: I don’t like rock paper scissors and I would prefer balancing around 1v1.)

So by your logic every one should just play rock paper scissors and no one shoots they just keep switching around like musical chairs?
Can you be any more short-sighted?

This does not show a lack of understanding on how the game is balanced.
You literally just made that up.

The reason if there were one right now that would hinder 1v1 in anyway that I might imagine is for the exact reason we don’t have much build diversity. There is some but not as much as I would like.

You literally just accused someone of having sub par logic and then expressed that same type of logic.

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with 1v1.

Your comment does not make any sense. I don’t know if it is your (obvious) lack of understanding my previous comment or something else…

Winning a 1v1 a.t.m. would be just a matter of luck what build you face and not whether or not you are better than your opponent. Is that so hard to understand?

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Posted by: Taltevus.3289

Taltevus.3289

1v1 matchups are rock paper scissors. Bad idea.

This!

Asking for a 1v1 arena just shows the lack of understanding how the game is balanced. Such a game mode would not be skill- but build-based.

Facing Power Rev? Switch to Condi Mes! Facing Scrapper? Switch to Reaper! …

(Btw.: I don’t like rock paper scissors and I would prefer balancing around 1v1.)

So by your logic every one should just play rock paper scissors and no one shoots they just keep switching around like musical chairs?
Can you be any more short-sighted?

This does not show a lack of understanding on how the game is balanced.
You literally just made that up.

The reason if there were one right now that would hinder 1v1 in anyway that I might imagine is for the exact reason we don’t have much build diversity. There is some but not as much as I would like.

You literally just accused someone of having sub par logic and then expressed that same type of logic.

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with 1v1.

Your comment does not make any sense. I don’t know if it is your (obvious) lack of understanding my previous comment or something else…

Winning a 1v1 a.t.m. would be just a matter of luck what build you face and not whether or not you are better than your opponent. Is that so hard to understand?

I play an Interrupt Berserk Chronomancer. No it’s not the Stealth Burst classic Mesmer.
There is nothing lucky about repeatedly interrupting another player. Please note the reason I use the word interrupt and not STUN. I can unload 8-10 consecutive interrupts not just stuns….Meaning I watch your character for every movement you are “about” to cast.
I am not the best Mesmer but I am darn good at what I do. And I am THE ONLY one playing Chronomancer this way. This I am sure.

You can pick all the traits in the word and still not be able to play that build well.
Hence…why ANYONE plays the build(s) they do…becasue they do better with them.

Repeatedly saying I don’t understand something doesn’t mean anything.
You certainly can’t prove that either with that practice. Protesting in the forums and you don’t even know why. Did you vote Hillary? Jk…maybe. No just kidding. I swear.

Winning a 5v5 in dysfunctional king of the hill (casually) is extremely luck based.
If you aren’t dependent on anyone but yourself (1v1) and your skill there is an incredible smaller amount of luck to do with the outcome of the battle.

Oh you didn’t bring Condition cleanse? Guess you WONT be getting lucky some other player got you covered. You got downed cause you missed clicked? Guess you wont get lucky with that thief passing by stealth rezzing you. Oh guess you got lucky you didn’t have one of the team quitters on your team in leagues. Guess you were un lucky if you did?

You talk about luck and me not understanding pvp balance and you can’t even see the rng-like elements already in the game mode.

TL;DR

Anyone who wants to play 1v1 does not affect anyone who wants to play 5v5 3Way K.O.T.H. If the game mode was so fun or entertaining you have nothing to worry about massive amounts (of what little is left) of players switching over. I certainly would find it a lot more enjoyable to 1v1 an endless stream of players…no chat, fight ends after one player has been defeated, positions reset immediately upon victory. Next! Win or Lose.

I’d love to have instant matches with 0 B.S.
No extra kitten rage chat. Players are completely responsible for their own doings. No people just quitting….ugh….just for whatever B.S. reason they come up with.

Just me…and and my opponent.

Man…the more I think about it…dang…I’d really like that a lot.

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Posted by: Iain Ross.6903

Iain Ross.6903

1v1 matchups are rock paper scissors. Bad idea.

This!

Asking for a 1v1 arena just shows the lack of understanding how the game is balanced. Such a game mode would not be skill- but build-based.

Facing Power Rev? Switch to Condi Mes! Facing Scrapper? Switch to Reaper! …

(Btw.: I don’t like rock paper scissors and I would prefer balancing around 1v1.)

So by your logic every one should just play rock paper scissors and no one shoots they just keep switching around like musical chairs?
Can you be any more short-sighted?

This does not show a lack of understanding on how the game is balanced.
You literally just made that up.

The reason if there were one right now that would hinder 1v1 in anyway that I might imagine is for the exact reason we don’t have much build diversity. There is some but not as much as I would like.

You literally just accused someone of having sub par logic and then expressed that same type of logic.

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with 1v1.

Your comment does not make any sense. I don’t know if it is your (obvious) lack of understanding my previous comment or something else…

Winning a 1v1 a.t.m. would be just a matter of luck what build you face and not whether or not you are better than your opponent. Is that so hard to understand?

I play an Interrupt Berserk Chronomancer. No it’s not the Stealth Burst classic Mesmer.
There is nothing lucky about repeatedly interrupting another player. Please note the reason I use the word interrupt and not STUN. I can unload 8-10 consecutive interrupts not just stuns….Meaning I watch your character for every movement you are “about” to cast.
I am not the best Mesmer but I am darn good at what I do. And I am THE ONLY one playing Chronomancer this way. This I am sure.

You can pick all the traits in the word and still not be able to play that build well.
Hence…why ANYONE plays the build(s) they do…becasue they do better with them.

Repeatedly saying I don’t understand something doesn’t mean anything.
You certainly can’t prove that either with that practice. Protesting in the forums and you don’t even know why. Did you vote Hillary? Jk…maybe. No just kidding. I swear.

Winning a 5v5 in dysfunctional king of the hill (casually) is extremely luck based.
If you aren’t dependent on anyone but yourself (1v1) and your skill there is an incredible smaller amount of luck to do with the outcome of the battle.

Oh you didn’t bring Condition cleanse? Guess you WONT be getting lucky some other player got you covered. You got downed cause you missed clicked? Guess you wont get lucky with that thief passing by stealth rezzing you. Oh guess you got lucky you didn’t have one of the team quitters on your team in leagues. Guess you were un lucky if you did?

You talk about luck and me not understanding pvp balance and you can’t even see the rng-like elements already in the game mode.

TL;DR

Anyone who wants to play 1v1 does not affect anyone who wants to play 5v5 3Way K.O.T.H. If the game mode was so fun or entertaining you have nothing to worry about massive amounts (of what little is left) of players switching over. I certainly would find it a lot more enjoyable to 1v1 an endless stream of players…no chat, fight ends after one player has been defeated, positions reset immediately upon victory. Next! Win or Lose.

I’d love to have instant matches with 0 B.S.
No extra kitten rage chat. Players are completely responsible for their own doings. No people just quitting….ugh….just for whatever B.S. reason they come up with.

Just me…and and my opponent.

Man…the more I think about it…dang…I’d really like that a lot.

Only read first lines and he doesn’t mean that there’s no skill with the players and only luck, he means that it’s luck as in you’re lucky if you get a favoured matchup as it is a major prerequisite and given equal skill (/performance) you should win, same goes for loosing a loosing matchup the other way around.

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Posted by: flow.6043

flow.6043

I don’t think the game needs a 1v1 mode.

However, the “there’s no 1v1 balance” argument is really weak here.
Because by that logic there shouldn’t be any PvP at all. After all, certain team compositions are better than others, just like certain 1v1 matchups work like rock-paper-scissors.
So queuing for some hypothetical 1v1 arena against some random opponent would actually be pretty much the same as queuing for a 5v5 match with 9 other people, except maybe there would evolve a different build meta for that 1v1 game mode.
You’d win some, you’d lose some, whatever. Same difference.

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Posted by: eyesrutherford.1357

eyesrutherford.1357

Hello all. Well to be honest the only way a 1v1 on this game could work would be through adding a system that diminishes heals throughout the match. This is the same for matches that are 2v2. There are too many builds that could be built around just sheer sustain which would just be a result of a match ending by a time out instead of anyone winning.

Now just adding diminish to the mode wouldnt be the only fix needed. there are probably still classes that are stupid to fight 1v1 “I have been gone since like start of hot so i have no idea what has been fixed yet”
But anywho. This has been a common thread made along with the 2v2 threads and there is just things that would have to be done to ensure that these modes would have stability without messing up other game modes which anet wants to promote for esports and what not.
Which being that. they still could do it but it would require creating a full new system for arena matchups in order to integrate diminish and such into them without effecting their other game modes with this same feature. which yea it dont sound too hard but also you all wouldnt be the ones having to do the work.

Dont think im against 2s or 1v1 in any way. All im saying is. Anet probably feels that their domination game mode still isnt finished so taking on yet another project while releasing content to the players would just be that much extra stress on the team which could end up with them neglecting balance or other stuff.

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