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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

Let’s make this happen even if it’s just in Custom Arenas.

You can keep your tPvP, SoloQ, and HotJoins. I just think this will open the door to a wonderful new opportunity in GW2 PvP.

No Ascended Gear, No 20v20, and Certainly No sPvP build only game play.

Please let us have this so we can further enjoy GW2 PvP

Lots of PvP’rs will prolly flame/kitten/moan/etc about this idea. Heck I might even get a WvW nub comment or 2

BUT

This won’t effect your gameplay in any way shape or form. Infact it may just bring some more ppl to actually click on that PvP icon in the upper left corner of their screen.

So feel free to discuss, flame, or just +1

Thx

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Posted by: Brando.1374

Brando.1374

I think most of the wvw players who love to fight have been asking for this since launch but I doubt it will ever happen.

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

I think most of the wvw players who love to fight have been asking for this since launch but I doubt it will ever happen.

Well it just makes sense to have this.

With the new locker system and PvP build system it’s VERY VERY VERY feasible to allow this to happen. I think it would pretty much give a great new avenue for PvP.

And if it don’t work out….You don’t lose anything but save face as a company giving players more options.

But it will work out

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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

@OP:

I think this would be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, we will only be able to do it with PvP stats which are too simplistic compared to the combinations available in PvE/WvW.

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

@OP:

I think this would be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, we will only be able to do it with PvP stats which are too simplistic compared to the combinations available in PvE/WvW.

Reason i said with exotics only.

Also how they are doing the whole wardrobe thing shows me this would be viable

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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

I do like the idea of it being an option in custom arenas. PvP gear or PvE gear.

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

@OP:

I think this would be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, we will only be able to do it with PvP stats which are too simplistic compared to the combinations available in PvE/WvW.

enemy would have same limitations or whats the problem?
all i see in your post is you need your Gear + buff food + wvw buffs and all the other stuff to PLAY and WIN a GvG
tactic – strategie – skill and all this stuff doessnt matter its all about gear

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Posted by: RustyEyeballs.8927

RustyEyeballs.8927

I do like the idea of it being an option in custom arenas. PvP gear or PvE gear.

This would be interesting and bring a lot of PvE’ers in imo.

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Posted by: Decrypter.1785

Decrypter.1785

i think 10 v 10 TDM would make GVG awsome but anet run gvg with in game ladders like gw1

[WM]give us in game ladder

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

@OP:

I think this would be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, we will only be able to do it with PvP stats which are too simplistic compared to the combinations available in PvE/WvW.

enemy would have same limitations or whats the problem?
all i see in your post is you need your Gear + buff food + wvw buffs and all the other stuff to PLAY and WIN a GvG
tactic – strategie – skill and all this stuff doessnt matter its all about gear

The problem is that PvP builds are too simplistic. The only variety comes in form of trait allocation. In exotic armor/trinkets only format the armor/trinkets become a part of your build. You can achieve much more variety in builds.

Truth of the matter is simple. Under my suggested format builds the theory crafters are rewarded much more than currently in PvP. You can build a character with 3k attack 3k armor over 50 crit damage and a decent chance to crit w/out fury.

Can’t do that in PvP currently.

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Posted by: OlrunTheBlade.1486

OlrunTheBlade.1486

More build variety → less balance

That’s literally what it comes down to. That’s why PvP builds are more simplistic. In WvW it doesn’t matter because the game mode is designed to be unbalanced PvP. However, implementing such a system in sPvP would go against the design philosophies that ArenaNet has for PvP.

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Posted by: Proven.2854

Proven.2854

With the new map, and setting a point limit (since teams still get 5 points per kill), can’t you do this anyway with the PvP gearset once April 15th rolls around?

Call me Smith.

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

More build variety -> less balance

That’s literally what it comes down to. That’s why PvP builds are more simplistic. In WvW it doesn’t matter because the game mode is designed to be unbalanced PvP. However, implementing such a system in sPvP would go against the design philosophies that ArenaNet has for PvP.

Actually it would be more balanced than current PvP is right now.

But I already stated this would be separate from sPvP, tPvP, and Hot Joins. So literally there is no impact on the game play you like to play

p.s. Simple is not always better btw

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

With the new map, and setting a point limit (since teams still get 5 points per kill), can’t you do this anyway with the PvP gearset once April 15th rolls around?

That’s the problem right there. I’m sure people will attempt to do this w/ the PvP gearset but it is inherently flawed for TDM. No versatility in builds or proper team support ones available.

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Posted by: Proven.2854

Proven.2854

Won’t touch the versatility argument, but what are the requirements of a proper team support build?

Call me Smith.

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

Won’t touch the versatility argument, but what are the requirements of a proper team support build?

A build that will not only provide great support for your team (heals, blast finishers, CC, boons, etc.) but it will have good damage AND survivability.

Using the equipment way that is used in PvE allows for better customization and give/take power to the build makers.

For instance lets just take a thief.

You can build a thief to have over 3k attack, 2.8k armor, over 15k hps, 40% chance to crit, and 100 crit damage.

You can do this with ANY class btw

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Posted by: EverythingEnds.4261

EverythingEnds.4261

Why only Exotics?

There is NO place where “only exotics” are used.

I personally don’t care about WvW. But I can understand that WvW players would like to have some training ground.
So, give them their WvW Custom Arena or sth like this. But please don’t call it sPvP.

But this wont happen due to a simple reason:

If there will be PvP-Arenas with PvE gear, a big part of the WvW players might switch to those Arenas and stop playing WvW.

Why bothering with keeps and long distances to run, when you also can join the “WvW Arena”?

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Posted by: bobomb.5209

bobomb.5209

Why only Exotics?

There is NO place where “only exotics” are used.

I personally don’t care about WvW. But I can understand that WvW players would like to have some training ground.
So, give them their WvW Custom Arena or sth like this. But please don’t call it sPvP.

But this wont happen due to a simple reason:

If there will be PvP-Arenas with PvE gear, a big part of the WvW players might switch to those Arenas and stop playing WvW.

Why bothering with keeps and long distances to run, when you also can join the “WvW Arena”?

There is a place where “only Exotics” are used. It’s called sPvP

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

Why only Exotics?

There is NO place where “only exotics” are used.

I personally don’t care about WvW. But I can understand that WvW players would like to have some training ground.
So, give them their WvW Custom Arena or sth like this. But please don’t call it sPvP.

But this wont happen due to a simple reason:

If there will be PvP-Arenas with PvE gear, a big part of the WvW players might switch to those Arenas and stop playing WvW.

Why bothering with keeps and long distances to run, when you also can join the “WvW Arena”?

Why only exotics is to ask yourself the question why is ferocity being introduced???

Yet that being said I’m not against using ascended either as long as everyone can use ascended w/out grinding/time sinks. Also because no one can stop the ferocity debacle that is coming on the 15th.

As for people stopping playing WvW to play this game type. No it won’t kill WvW just like sPvP hasn’t killed WvW. Believe it or not people play WvW for the game type alone and not for the build diversity. Guilds upon Guilds dedicate their entire time unto that Game Type. In fact you’d be hard pressed to counter the argument that WvW is an enormous reason this game is as successful as it is; while, sPvP is far from the reason for this game’s success.

Besides this isn’t a WvW vs PvP vs PvE debate. It is simply an awesome idea to promote more diversity in the play modes of this game, and I don’t care who you are you can’t deny a more diverse option base is good for the game.

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Posted by: EverythingEnds.4261

EverythingEnds.4261

I’ve the feeling, I missed sth.
So what the Op wants is simply sPvP but instead of amuletts having all stats, being able to have stats on all armor parts?

Might be interesting, but what would be the point of this?
So you can make even glassier getting ripped in pieces even faster by thieves and to get even tougher bunkers and dire-condi builds.

But those are only my thoughts.
I still would welcome anything new to spvp.

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

I’ve the feeling, I missed sth.
So what the Op wants is simply sPvP but instead of amuletts having all stats, being able to have stats on all armor parts?

Might be interesting, but what would be the point of this?
So you can make even glassier getting ripped in pieces even faster by thieves and to get even tougher bunkers and dire-condi builds.

But those are only my thoughts.
I still would welcome anything new to spvp.

PvP would remained untouched and only allow Custom Arenas to have the option to use exotics/etc. along w/ TDM.

The PvP you all know will not be touched.

And yes you can build glassier but you can also make more hybrid/balanced builds

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

Can we get a post from a dev to give us some insight on maybe possibly getting something like this??

thx

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Posted by: ThaOwner.7560

ThaOwner.7560

seeing as they’re further dumbing down pvp with only allowing you to chose your amulet and not a jewel, i highly doubt this would happen. dont get me wrong i would love this, might actually get me playing pvp again but its just not gonna happen

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

i would love this, might actually get me playing pvp again

Another testament!!!

Though I heard EP is a lil weak on the 10 v 10 front :P

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

Yes if simply could add option to allow PvE gear stats into our custom arenas would be able to get a lot more people to come into the custom arena and duel etc. Then it’s a hop, skip, and a jump away from converting them to competitive PvP.

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

Yes if simply could add option to allow PvE gear stats into our custom arenas would be able to get a lot more people to come into the custom arena and duel etc. Then it’s a hop, skip, and a jump away from converting them to competitive PvP.

Good point

I don’t understand the lack of support from the dev’s on this tbh.