Guild Wars 2

Really? for a start its hard enough to figure out that you need to pay to unlock these champions, and then when you do you are asked for 15g, lol you must be crazy, there is no way I’m paying that, not because I can’t afford it, cos honestly I could easily, it’s just a principle thing, I think its disgusting that you even try to put this gold sink in there, there is nothing FUN about paying for an unlock, they should have been unlocked via completing the reward tracks, that is what I was expecting.

I would love to see your metrics on how many people are not paying for these champions, and I’m just going to wait until you finally realise this was a terrible idea and let us unlock them in a more FUN manner.

Just check the cost of all spvp sigils/necks/champ.

3g each sigil
5g each rune
10 each rune
15 each champ
think over 300g
hard to get for a spvper

You pay the gold to get the reward track that unlocks them.

NeXeD.3042:

You pay the gold to get the reward track that unlocks them.

I know and I’m against paying for the initial unlock, finishing a reward track is all that should be needed, not paying to unlock a reward track and then finish it to unlock the champ, the gold aspect is not needed here and is not welcome, at least by me.

If sPvP is all you do, what exactly else is there for you to spend the money on besides cosmetics? It’s not that surprising that they would introduce a gold sink into a game mode that basically does nothing but make money.

I don’t like that they locked sigils and stuff behind a pay wall either, because the whole point of sPvP is that everyone is on equal footing, but there should be a gold sink somewhere. Would have been better to put it on sPvP exclusive skins though, or something like that.

Teevell.1684:

If sPvP is all you do, what exactly else is there for you to spend the money on besides cosmetics? It’s not that surprising that they would introduce a gold sink into a game mode that basically does nothing but make money.

sPvP is not all I do, I play every game mode, but I would imagine for the guys that do only play sPvP then a gold sink would be the last thing they need since they are not exactly rolling in gold are they…

P.S cosmetics are expensive. (legendarys, BL skins)

I’m solely not buying them for the same reason as OP. I have the money, but I refuse to pay 15g for the OPPORTUNITY to unlock a new champ. Turai Ossa is my friend for the foreseeable future.

I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now…

Sad people.. No comment.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now…

Sad people.. No comment.

If I wanted it all I would pay the 15g and unlock the tracks, I already stated the 15g is actually nothing to me, this is about principles, I refuse to pay it because I think having a gold sink as an unlock is just not FUN, I remember Colin once said “when designing content we ask ourselves, is it fun?” so I guess Colin wasn’t involved in this decision because it surely is not fun.

Vavume.8065:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now…

Sad people.. No comment.

I refuse to pay it because I think having a gold sink as an unlock is just not FUN

And in my opinion giving everything for free to everyone is not fun either.

Not to mention that referring to 15g as a gold sink is so laughable…

Its pvp, gating makes it unfair. You should be better in pvp because you invested time in training, not in buying amulets/runes/sigils/heroes.

roelvanesch.2817:

Its pvp, gating makes it unfair. You should be better in pvp because you invested time in training, not in buying amulets/runes/sigils/heroes.

The invested time in training will give more than double the amount of gold to unlock every singe item…

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

roelvanesch.2817:

Its pvp, gating makes it unfair. You should be better in pvp because you invested time in training, not in buying amulets/runes/sigils/heroes.

The invested time in training will give more than double the amount of gold to unlock every singe item…

And what if I invest that gold in pve stuff, does that make me worse at pvp for doing so?

Vavume.8065:

Teevell.1684:

If sPvP is all you do, what exactly else is there for you to spend the money on besides cosmetics? It’s not that surprising that they would introduce a gold sink into a game mode that basically does nothing but make money.

sPvP is not all I do, I play every game mode, but I would imagine for the guys that do only play sPvP then a gold sink would be the last thing they need since they are not exactly rolling in gold are they…

P.S cosmetics are expensive. (legendarys, BL skins)

All I do is pvp, but I have no interest in legendaries. I typically use pretty basic weapons on an asura so it’s harder to see my attacks.

Vavume.8065:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now…

Sad people.. No comment.

If I wanted it all I would pay the 15g and unlock the tracks, I already stated the 15g is actually nothing to me, this is about principles, I refuse to pay it because I think having a gold sink as an unlock is just not FUN, I remember Colin once said “when designing content we ask ourselves, is it fun?” so I guess Colin wasn’t involved in this decision because it surely is not fun.

So you agree the 15g isn’t that much and if you wanted it you’d get it so then basically you don’t want it and since you don’t have to buy it to do anything I don’t really see the problem here. Also how is it a gold sink? You pay for it once and get it forever, isn’t that how most products tend to work?

roelvanesch.2817:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

roelvanesch.2817:

Its pvp, gating makes it unfair. You should be better in pvp because you invested time in training, not in buying amulets/runes/sigils/heroes.

The invested time in training will give more than double the amount of gold to unlock every singe item…

And what if I invest that gold in pve stuff, does that make me worse at pvp for doing so?

The game gives you the currency to unlock everything you need. How you chose to spend it is your problem. You all just cry because you can’t have everything for free and unlocked, the exact moment you bought HoT.

The Queen song I posted above ^

15g is pocket change though. Even if you literally do no content other than PvP you’ll get 15g by winning a mere 45~ matches anyway.

Have fun paying for your unlocks then guys, you are giving them the green flag to continue doing it, good luck with that.

Vavume.8065:

Have fun paying for your unlocks then guys, you are giving them the green flag to continue doing it, good luck with that.

What we want couldn’t matter less to John Smith.

Vavume.8065:

Have fun paying for your unlocks then guys, you are giving them the green flag to continue doing it, good luck with that.

Anything is better than giving everything to everyone for free. Because once you do, they go with the attitude that they should not work for anything on an MMO and with the first sight of progress, they create whiny threads on the forums.

Honestly, it’s not even that I find ti too expensive, its just, why bother ? Stronghold is a casual mode, I’m not paying gold to unlock a slightly custom side objective in a game mode I don’t even play much of.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

roelvanesch.2817:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

roelvanesch.2817:

Its pvp, gating makes it unfair. You should be better in pvp because you invested time in training, not in buying amulets/runes/sigils/heroes.

The invested time in training will give more than double the amount of gold to unlock every singe item…

And what if I invest that gold in pve stuff, does that make me worse at pvp for doing so?

The game gives you the currency to unlock everything you need. How you chose to spend it is your problem. You all just cry because you can’t have everything for free and unlocked, the exact moment you bought HoT.

The Queen song I posted above ^

It’s like the philosophy difference between League of Legends and Dota 2. Originally gw2 worked exactly like dota regarding pvp; everyone was equal. If some kind of advantage is hard to unlock, its unfair. If it is easy to do so, it is not necessary to do so. In short, there is no point in gating this content, even if the gate is easy to unlock. I understand League’s method of locking content, because they need the money. This is a different matter.

i know i’m not paying.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Vavume.8065:

Have fun paying for your unlocks then guys, you are giving them the green flag to continue doing it, good luck with that.

Anything is better than giving everything to everyone for free. Because once you do, they go with the attitude that they should not work for anything on an MMO and with the first sight of progress, they create whiny threads on the forums.

Except, this is PvP. It is meant to have everything to be accessible.

When the new healing skills came out, it was priced at 25 skillpoints. This was extremely annoying for PvPers. Many people called for it to be removed.

But that was character bound.

Nika/Grymm/Runes/sigils are account bound and they aren’t as annoying as back then. I am not up and arms over this but I do agree with the OP. It would be a nice thing to have.

PvP sinks more money than it generates. +1

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Vavume.8065:

Have fun paying for your unlocks then guys, you are giving them the green flag to continue doing it, good luck with that.

Anything is better than giving everything to everyone for free. Because once you do, they go with the attitude that they should not work for anything on an MMO and with the first sight of progress, they create whiny threads on the forums.

You’d be a lot happier in PvE. Go there. You can grind as much as you want. In PvP, what you really seem to want is a pay to win advantage. That’s not the basis of this game. Everyone should have access to all of the same items in PvP.

You do get Gold (read: Silver) for playing sPvP; so over time, you can easily afford these things purely through playing sPvP and sPvP alone. You don’t need to unlock everything all at once, do you? Do you even want all the weapon upgrades and Mist Champions? Do you really?

Maan…

15 gold is nothing, you win gold in pvp.

Also for the people who are ill informed:

Finishing the champion reward track once, will unlock a bonus reward track. The final prize will be a mini of the unlocked hero.

I agree with the OP, it is not about gold but principle the game started with which they have time and again ignored.

IMHO The gold sink is pvp is just plain dumb and un-fun and thus should be taken out.

Oslaf Beinir.5842:

I agree with the OP, it is not about gold but principle the game started with which they have time and again ignored.

IMHO The gold sink is pvp is just plain dumb and un-fun and thus should be taken out.

From a market perspective there has to be a gold sink in content in which you can earn liquid gold. PvP on launch was completely separated from the main game and had no rewards that affected the economy. Disregarding gem rewards from paids, which were promptly removed while gems were getting less cheap, 15 gems wasn’t much in the days when 80 silver was enough to get you 800 gems.

Anyway, with reward tracks giving materials and loot as well as match rewards PvP is now a source of income, though a bad one it still needs a gold sink by default. So it has a minor one in unlockable Amulets, Runes, Sigils and Tracks. Fun is not a factor, the well-being of the economy is and it is better to err on the side of caution.

a) 15g is really not that much, just win few games
b) turai ossa is good enough anyways, you don’t need other ones so much unless you play premade with some Super clever tactics.

jalmari.3906:

a) 15g is really not that much, just win few games
b) turai ossa is good enough anyways, you don’t need other ones so much unless you play premade with some Super clever tactics.

Win few games?!!

In 2 weeks of PvP-ing … I’ve done only 30g ! Are you saying that we win 1g per win?