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Posted by: RaynStargaze.6510

RaynStargaze.6510

The current system is kitten for any matchmaking system and map variety – here`s the solution:

Copy the system from SC2!!!

In SC2 you always play “1v1” (in gw2 terms 1 team vs 1 team). Before starting the game you can choose a small number of maps from the map pool which you dont want to play on! (GW2 has only 5 (4) maps so let the players exclude 1)

After signing up for a game a map is chosen randomly from the map pool.

This would also allow to completely remove the kitten waiting times before games – if you got to take a dump – do it BEFORE signing up!

It would also allow for easy matchmaking because the system wouldnt have to find kitten 8 teams with the same QP or whatever points you are going to introduce.

^there is NO REASON not to do it this way!

Also as some personal wishes: Introduce more game modes especially 2v2 and 3v3 arena! I am aware that Anet doesnt like the idea of multiple game modes due to balancing issues
DOESNT MATTER! Balancing as it currently is is broken as kitten! WHO CARES! You can reroll any class any time! So what if everyone plays 2 Ele + Guard + Mesmer You still gotta play your imba comp better than the other team. (3v3 RMP kitten)

Balancing in an mmo will NEVER be perfect so what?`At least keep the game interesting

And last but not least – FIX MY ENGINEER for christs sake I`m sick of having 1 viable build (NO – SD builds are NOT viable!). I even use the MISSTHROWER in my build. WAHT TEH kittenC one of my best attacks goes straight into the ground 50% of the time THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE! Turrets are useless – elixirs have horrible rng and most gadgets are simply useless!

(ohh and downed state pisses me off because you cant win 1v2 at all – but apparently there are enough noobs who enjoy zerging and not getting killed by players who are clearly better than they are – GOD)

so says r40 kitten zerg4maxpoints faceroll noob

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Posted by: Dsquaredcri.9421

Dsquaredcri.9421

Sorry, i don’t like your suggestion.

Anet is doing it right.

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

What you brought up here is nearly the same as the new mode that will come in feb/march. Where you 5v5 just for one map (in gw2 case it’s temple). The other modes 2v2 /3v3 will mabye come later.
The thing with the map pool… well as you said 5 maps where 1 is not tournament playable (raid of cap), is not enough to bring that feature out.
The waiting time will be fixed in these one-match tournaments.

About the engineer: True, atm just too weak to compete with other classes.

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Posted by: RaynStargaze.6510

RaynStargaze.6510

Sorry, i don’t like your suggestion.

Anet is doing it right.

You are aware that matchmaking is simply impossible with the system that is currently in place and that Anet said specifically that rewards for 1v1 team tpvp are going to be smaller than the ones for 4v4 team tpvp. And not only that – in the coming “event” there will only be 1! Map being played which is Temple of the silent storm!

Hardly anyone plays paid now (with regard to playerbase) and its not going to get any better if matchmaking will even increase waiting times / will have no effect at all because there arent enough teams signing up in the 1st place for 4v4 team

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

I think it needs some time with the matchmaking. But if ppl start to get grps on the same level, the playerbase will increase. Well, that’s what I hope.
For this we need ppl who are willing to give the coming updates a chance instead of beating it down, when they can’t even know how it will be.

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Posted by: RaynStargaze.6510

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ohh and late response.. i dont think that enginner is necessairily underpowered! (see my 1st post concerning class balance)The issue simply is that our skills are riddled with game breaking! bugs

I really dont see anything good coming up in this next big patch for pvp! The only good thing for gw2 is that it has no monthly fee so the devs dont really have any time pressure – ppl will come back once fixes are in place but atm there is nothing on the horizon that makes pvp in gw2 more enjoyable (imho at least..)

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

In no way underpowered. Just not fit in the team setups and the actual gameplay. As he can’t play bunker becaus the guard is way-better, he can’t play roamer because the ele is way better, his burst compared to a thief is not enough, his conditions compared to a necro is a joke and in 1v1 a ranger still can do more pressure.
Sure the engineer has lot of knocks, support, conditions. depends how you play.

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

they do have some sort of matchmaking system planned. ill be curious to see how it works, i have feeling it wont be a proper elo rating, but will be based of player ranks. Which, is sad for players who are casual but have obtained high ranks over a long time, they will simply be stomped continensiously by high ranked hardcore players.

And wha thappens if ur bringing a friend whos new tot he game into your team? how does that effect matchmaking? its going to be interesting to see.
Matchmaking is good when it works, but terrible if it gets you trapped into fighting competition you cant beat ever.

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

Matchmaking is based on ranks and QP, to avoid your scenario with the hardcore-player-stomp.

We can’t do more then wait and see how it will be going.

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

Matchmaking is based on ranks and QP, to avoid your scenario with the hardcore-player-stomp.

We can’t do more then wait and see how it will be going.

Where did you read that? i havnt heard anything official on how it will be organized.

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Posted by: Dsquaredcri.9421

Dsquaredcri.9421

Sorry, i don’t like your suggestion.

Anet is doing it right.

You are aware that matchmaking is simply impossible with the system that is currently in place and that Anet said specifically that rewards for 1v1 team tpvp are going to be smaller than the ones for 4v4 team tpvp. And not only that – in the coming “event” there will only be 1! Map being played which is Temple of the silent storm!

Hardly anyone plays paid now (with regard to playerbase) and its not going to get any better if matchmaking will even increase waiting times / will have no effect at all because there arent enough teams signing up in the 1st place for 4v4 team

I think the matchmaking they are gonna introduce soon is a must and well worked on.
I don t wanna always wait 45 mins for a tourney. So matchmaking is a must.

And the 1v1 2v2 3v3 you asked, ok, go play 1v1 with an ele bunker, can u kitten use your brain to understand that it’s just a brainless mode for a competitive mmorpg????

Moorpg like this are not made for solo play, but for team play!
You do not understand a s***

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

1on1 as a duel system is great.
1on1 as a ladder system is idiotic. Even wow doesnt do that.

And remember this change to the map next week is only for one week, its a trial guys, nothing carved in stone.

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

1v1 just work with massive restrictions to not allow bunker play (ele, guard) and other annoying stuff. Pretty boring, as you can join an empty server to do things like this.

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Posted by: RaynStargaze.6510

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I have never been talking about REAL 1Player vs 1Player . Please understand that when i wrote 1v1 i meant to say 1 team vs 1 team but im too lazy to spell it out. I also pointed this out in the FIRST 5 LINES of my first post!

I can simply see no reason why Anet would force games to only start with 8 teams (4v4) instead of 2 Teams (1 team vs 1 team) It makes no sense and is a massive hinderance for any matchmaking system.

I would however enjoy 2v2 3v3 arena like wow.

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

in that case we argree rayn, they need to make it as easy as possible for competitive pvp to grow.

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

Same opinion here. Let’s see how this 7 days will change pvp.

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Posted by: Dsquaredcri.9421

Dsquaredcri.9421

I have never been talking about REAL 1Player vs 1Player . Please understand that when i wrote 1v1 i meant to say 1 team vs 1 team but im too lazy to spell it out. I also pointed this out in the FIRST 5 LINES of my first post!

I can simply see no reason why Anet would force games to only start with 8 teams (4v4) instead of 2 Teams (1 team vs 1 team) It makes no sense and is a massive hinderance for any matchmaking system.

I would however enjoy 2v2 3v3 arena like wow.

1 team vs 1 team is just one of the best modes ever..

and 2 players vs 2 players or 3, you sayd right, it’s WOW. So go for it

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