Guild Wars 2

no words needed….stack prevention failure from the start

Working as intended mate. What the update does is it will now spend longer to find you a game that will be stacked anyways.

that q poped in 30 seconds

Eddbopkins.2630:

that q poped in 30 seconds

And before the update, a game of a similar quality might’ve popped instantly! Hows that for an improvement?

There’s only so much the matchmaker can do when faced with a very low population, and class specific dailies that ensure a much larger than usual proportion of players are running the same 4 classes.

Seriously, removing class specific dailies would already help immensely. And to help with the population ANet just needs a reason to convince people to do PvP

I don’t see anything problematic here. 2 DHs in the opposite team is nothing to worry about, 2 revenants in yours could be hard but one of them should reroll.

All that “class stacking” is not a matchmaking problem, it is just low skill of the players that cannot play/don’t want to switch.

Class stacks usually happens with classes that are on dailies achievement. In my opinion, players should get the good habit of reroll if needed. Or, maybe, Ranked Matches shouldn’t be counted for dailies.

yes ist mostly related on dailes and “Class of the Month”. The system no will prefer non stacked matches. But it´s PREFER. If a class is overrepresented it will come to the point where stacking happens.
Per class MMR or removing dailies from ranked matches will further reduce stacking.
But i can say i encounter low stacks. Yes sometiems there are doubles. What i see more is a global class affinity like low revenant and ele “Population”

Archangel.9481:

Or, maybe, Ranked Matches shouldn’t be counted for dailies.

I applaud and sincerely appreciate ArenaNet’s effort in trying to alleviate the matchmaking class-stacking as someone who’s brought up that issue on multiple occasions, but I also cannot help but agree that this would only serve to aid that effort even as an individual who also makes his initial pick based on PvP dailies (I’ll swap if it nets me a bad team-comp or if I’m individually countered by the enemy team’s comp).

I personaly don´t force a class in ranked for dailies. I take the daily if it´s ele or warrior and fits the match. I won´t try any other class in ranked just for a reward. I will drag down myself and my team and so won´t do it… If i can´t get three daily in PvP then i get it in five minutes in WvW …

Class stacking is mainly the result of most people playing what are percieved (rightly or wrongly) as the strongest classes. Stuff like class dailies are a part of it but not the driver. When I play its the same classes that are stacked most of the time namely DH and Warrior. Those are the most popular stacks followed by thief.

Even then though, the amount of DHs skyrocket when its a guard daily, way higher than they normally are. Which indicates that class specific dailies are in fact a big problem.

Unfortunately I think the low population is to blame here, they are trying to get it to not stack classes at first but after time it has to lengthen out if it can’t find any matches without stacking.

It may be your pop was so low it just didnt have a choice. A shame if it is. Or it could be that the current Daily was guards and the system is flooded with Guardians lol which wouldnt surprise me one bit.

It may not even be a daily.

lmao I still cant believe anet listen to people about “profession stacking”. It literally doesn’t matter at all. The amount of posts:

“zomg i was vs 3 warriors and lost QQ”

It is hilarious to me. Profession stacking is not a factor in almost every game played. The fact people think it is shows how bad they are. The fact anet listens to bad people on the forums shows how bad their dev process is.

Eddbopkins.2630:

that q poped in 30 seconds

Which means the other 6 or so players where waiting a long time, over 5 minutes or so to get you a queue that short.

Basically, the system puts people in a queue and the longer they wait the worse the MMR gets. As soon as you queued, you were a fit for that team and it made your queue shorter because no one else was available for that rating.

In other words, the faster your queue is the worse the match quality is. Same thing goes with the longer the queue is, the worse the match quality gets.

On a related note the new system is actually pretty great. You’ll be getting 2-2 teams instead of teams of 5 dragon hunters like before.

Lordrosicky.5813:

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it happens enough for it to be a problem, apparently.

Eddbopkins.2630:

that q poped in 30 seconds

What time do you play? I haven’t had a ranked match pop in less than 2:30 since this kitten began.

Stand The Wall.6987:

Lordrosicky.5813:

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it happens enough for it to be a problem, apparently.

Oh it happens. Profession stacking happens but it doesnt matter at all. Games are decided by skill and team work not comps, pretty much always.

Making the system stop against profession stacking will just lead to less balanced match ups. Its a zero sum game. If you have restrictions against profession stacking then you will get worse matchmaking in terms of skill.

The quality of games will go down as a result.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Stand The Wall.6987:

Lordrosicky.5813:

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it happens enough for it to be a problem, apparently.

Oh it happens. Profession stacking happens but it doesnt matter at all. Games are decided by skill and team work not comps, pretty much always.

Making the system stop against profession stacking will just lead to less balanced match ups. Its a zero sum game. If you have restrictions against profession stacking then you will get worse matchmaking in terms of skill.

The quality of games will go down as a result.

I highly disagree with this.

Sorry but if you have 3 druids and an engineer against a full condition team… The enemy team would have to be several hundred points down in rating to lose.

I consistently see people stick on hard counters and it’s no surprise that we end up losing because it’s like a 4v5 at that point.

People voted to swap so they can change against hard counters but no one does it and still loses anyway.

Worrying about profession stacking is pointless. If the queue get long people will just queue as a class that is under represented and then switch to what they want to play. Also, who queues high level ranked on a profession the don’t normally play because it is a daily? Even then, you only need 1 win.

Hey it’s not worse than coming in to play a decay game with/against bronze level players, only to find that the other thief that didn’t want to switch is p/p.

And teamfights while standing in the middle of the node… Sorry that was just a painful moment for me

Lordrosicky.5813:

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I don’t understand your reasoning at all. maybe there is none.

Game is being improved… for 4.5 years. Wait for it to become better like we all do, or move on like others did.

Don’t forget you can play with a friend in a 5v5 match, thus obtaining a whopping 40% control of match (assuming every player has 20% value from 100% team value).