Guild Wars 2

Dear Anet,
pls take the Arena from Crab Toss Minigame ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pFjVonB0T4 ) and Add a simple Deathmatch System for 1 and 2 PlayerTeams.
How much work did u have to spend on that?
I think u Guys have a exra Team for sPVP?
What did they do? Drawing new Minimaps?

EDIT: Think on the Gamers who only play GW2 with 1 or 2 Friends… They dont want to create 5Man Teams!

Even if it provided no Glory or reward I, for one would absolutely love a 1v1/2v2 arena.

I’d imagine some very fun innovative team compositions, and also some very potent exploitations but if the Arena field is properly designed with decent line of site and generous terrain than I feel it would be fun regardless.

Perhaps mildly rewarding all players for competing but giving the winner(s) a PvP specific buff that increases the gain of Glory or Honor by a small percentage for X amount of time or until you leave the Mists. This buff could stack with the Already existing glory booster’s but also on each successful victory in 1v1 or 2v2 up to a Pre-determined amount. Losing a Dueling Arena however, will cause you to lose your previously acquired victory buff stacks. This (I feel) would encourage partaking in this Duel like Arena for a chance at getting a buff to your allocation of Glory or preferably your Rank Experience gain.

I am aware Currently Glory has no real use or application aside from buying Unidentified Dyes. (-shrug-) But perhaps in the future that may change and Anet will make Glory an actual valued currency but I digress. This Victory buff would also add to the “ascetic” of your character, allowing other players to see the unique buff and how many stacks they have acquired thus telegraphing their prowess or luck in the Arena’s.

These Dueling Arenas could be completely optional and simply be done as a quick filler in between Hotjoins or Tournaments. But competing and winning in succession would compliment the other modes of play in the mists by persisting in all aspects of the mists (Hotjoins, Solo Tourneys and Group Tourneys). But also would provide incentive to continue competing in the Duel Arena’s.

In conclusion: If you can’t tell I am an avid supporter of Dueling in general. In PvE,WvW or sPvP. But I feel adding this mechanic would help provide some Synergistic rewards which currently the PvP rewards in general are.. Lackluster to say the least..

Copied from what I posted in another thread with a similar topic:
What they need to do is lose hotjoin and make:
Ranked TPvP Require rank 15. 50 glory for a loss, 250 for a win.
Unranked TPvP (this is where you go if you’re a nublet) 0 glory for a loss, 150 for a win.
2v2 Arena
1v1 Arena (Because solo play should always be an option, and it’d be highly popular since every class has 1v1 builds.)

Outcome: The pvp crowd is more together, and there are more options/modes, not 3 copies of the same thing (hotjoin, solo q, team que)

a rankingsystem like in WoW for 2v2 Teams would be very nice….
U can Create your Team and start with a Teamranking 0…..
+10points for win -10points for loss….

easy to made

ronpierce.2760:

(Because solo play should always be an option, and it’d be highly popular since every class has 1v1 builds.)

Yeah, you can see it on all that usermade 1on1 Servers.

ronpierce.2760:

Outcome: The pvp crowd is more together, and there are more options/modes, not 3 copies of the same thing (hotjoin, solo q, team que)

Dont know why… it makes no difference what mode i actually play… The reward is some useless Items or any Rankinglist in the Webbrowser?… Hmm

Really wish Anet would try and experiment with more game modes like this, don’t balance for it, don’t care about it, just let it be.

If people enjoy it even just as a break from conquest… fantastic.

If people enjoy it so much they play it more than conquest.. great.

If people enjoy it so much it starts to become competitive, embrace it and let it grow.

flat arena for deathmatch in this game? hell no! you need to provide terrain variety to allow more play styles and give melee some disadvantage for their higher dmg

Yeah, ou can build in some Terrain… Or make some more DM Arenas…

We need a petition to make!

Lets use this Thread as Petition! ANet will notice this

They should really add this. People are afraid this pvp thing will be chaotic but with a maximum of 2 v 2 it should really be possible.

And funny as well! Every Class has a good 1v1 Build! So there are no Balance tweaks needed! And think on that 2on2 Matches…. Pls ANet^^

Don’t petition, they close petitions.

Secondly: I know for a FACT (for my opinion and many others) 1v1 and 2v2 battles are far more enjoyable to watch than conquest pvp matches. Literally, you see whats going on, it can be cutting edge, people pull cool tricks. Conquest its okay people are fighting on nodes. Lots of colors… Someone killed a beast… And someone lost. Cool.

It makes the Conquest Mode more playable…because all Player who only want to Fight are in Deathmatch!

Adding pretty much anything to SPvP to create mode options would be great.

I think 1v1 and 2v2 would work because there are a lot of people who are fans okitten g of the hill servers(for some reason it filters to kitten) and I know my guild has created a few 1v1 2v2 events that made PvErs come and have fun.
Anything that can break the mold of conquest would really boost the SPvP part of the game and more people would have a reason to come and enjoy it.

Nothing special and spectacular is needed, just throw some small arenas with a little bit of terrain and let people have fun fighting others in a combination of 2 or solo. It is just great and we need it.

Oh, there is no question that almost everyone would enjoy new modes. But Anet appears to be totally against it currently.

Where did you find that anet is against such pvp mode? Why would they? :O

Adding arena would be freaking amazing

let’s do it like this
2v2 deathmatch arena
enter solo or with friend
no matchmaking, no leaderboards
continue after winning
5 min countdown
small arena maps
minimal amount of glory
chest after every 5 wins
new achievement title rank increases each win

+1,

BUT DON’T ADD RATING. PLEASE. Make it like Random Arenas in GW1: random, and not group que. That would be too WoW-like.

rimpak.8529:

Where did you find that anet is against such pvp mode? Why would they? :O

Because they tested deathmatch, but neither of the teams wanted to start the fight, so they move forward to conquest.

Gandarel.5091:

rimpak.8529:

Where did you find that anet is against such pvp mode? Why would they? :O

Because they tested deathmatch, but neither of the teams wanted to start the fight, so they move forward to conquest.

I call this bull!@#$.
We want deathmatch arenas. NOA!

rimpak.8529:

Gandarel.5091:

rimpak.8529:

Where did you find that anet is against such pvp mode? Why would they? :O

Because they tested deathmatch, but neither of the teams wanted to start the fight, so they move forward to conquest.

I call this bull!@#$.
We want deathmatch arenas. NOA!

Imagine the effort they put into coming up with a solution. Like.. 0 seconds.

Gandarel.5091:

rimpak.8529:

Where did you find that anet is against such pvp mode? Why would they? :O

Because they tested deathmatch, but neither of the teams wanted to start the fight, so they move forward to conquest.

That’s why skirmishes never happen in WvW… right.

rimpak.8529:

Where did you find that anet is against such pvp mode? Why would they? :O

I really have no idea… maybe they think the class balance in 1v1 or 2v2 would be embarrassing. Again, no clue… >.>

Personally I think MORE modes would automatically help different builds and classes be more balanced! I mean, the reason condi AoE spam is so prevalent in tourney games right now is because you are forced to stand on a point to defend it. Deathmatch would promote all sorts of cool builds and tactics and be quite enjoyable to watch imo.

Something like this would be amazing…think about it. People who quit pvp would come back and try it out

bump! i made the same petition! 1v1 up to 25v25 including the GvG community!

Gandarel.5091:

+1,

BUT DON’T ADD RATING. PLEASE. Make it like Random Arenas in GW1: random, and not group que. That would be too WoW-like.

And WoW totally didn’t have skirmishes before Cataclysm.
Trying to be a 100% GW1 copy isn’t going to help this game.
Also stop the pointless hate on WoW. Let’s not have a LFG tool because WoW had that, right?

Wryog.5073:

Gandarel.5091:

+1,

BUT DON’T ADD RATING. PLEASE. Make it like Random Arenas in GW1: random, and not group que. That would be too WoW-like.

And WoW totally didn’t have skirmishes before Cataclysm.
Trying to be a 100% GW1 copy isn’t going to help this game.
Also stop the pointless hate on WoW. Let’s not have a LFG tool because WoW had that, right?

You are such an arrogant prick. If this game would be a 100% GW1 copy Pvp wise with new engine, e-sport wouldn’t be a silly dream that much.

Currently it has nothing to do with GW1, not even 1%.

And skirmishes were totally pointless in WoW. I’m just talking about adding a Deathmatch arena where you don’t get mad if your braindead teammates make YOU lose rating. Because there would be no rating. Basically a place where you can just have fun and still feel that you get some reward, (glory, rank points, or something), not like WoW skirmishes.

And not at a so shameful level as hotjoin.

Btw who has his PvE character level in his signature means his business isn’t in PvP.

AND there is a pointless dev-hate towards GW1, because if GW1 had something done right, they just totally refuse to use that. Even if we just look at the birthday presents.

Gandarel.5091:

Wryog.5073:

Gandarel.5091:

+1,

BUT DON’T ADD RATING. PLEASE. Make it like Random Arenas in GW1: random, and not group que. That would be too WoW-like.

And WoW totally didn’t have skirmishes before Cataclysm.
Trying to be a 100% GW1 copy isn’t going to help this game.
Also stop the pointless hate on WoW. Let’s not have a LFG tool because WoW had that, right?

You are such an arrogant prick. If this game would be a 100% GW1 copy Pvp wise with new engine, e-sport wouldn’t be a silly dream that much.

Currently it has nothing to do with GW1, not even 1%.

And skirmishes were totally pointless in WoW. I’m just talking about adding a Deathmatch arena where you don’t get mad if your braindead teammates make YOU lose rating. Because there would be no rating. Basically a place where you can just have fun and still feel that you get some reward, (glory, rank points, or something), not like WoW skirmishes.

And not at a so shameful level as hotjoin.

Btw who has his PvE character level in his signature means his business isn’t in PvP.

AND there is a pointless dev-hate towards GW1, because if GW1 had something done right, they just totally refuse to use that. Even if we just look at the birthday presents.

Riiiight… I’m going to ignore the insult part.
As long as there’s random matchmaking you’ll have the chance of getting “brain dead teammates”. It’s definitely not a WoW-only thing and your completely random matchmaking idea just increases the possible skill difference between the players in a match. I’ve always hated easy stomps, even when I’m doing them.
The Guild Wars 2 devs wanted this game to be unique and new. Did all of you GW1 players miss that part? And what’s your problem with birthday presents? I agree that they’re pretty much useless but most games don’t even give anything. Just be happy that they even recognized your character creation date and stop whining about free stuff.
Also I have a “PvE” signature(it’s for WvW actually but I get your point) because my business in sPvP was done a long time ago. Nothing short of a death match mode is really going to get me to play that again.

i dont mind an option for unrated death matches for training and quickly finding opponents, but what competitive players want is of course a rated version where you can match yourself against the best if you climb the ladder. also in 1v1 you dont have to rely on any team mates, just your build and skills.

same as Wryog btw, nothing short of death matches will make me play any part of this game in a competitive fashion. conquest isnt my thing and my only option is joining a competitive tpvp team – too much work for a gamemode i dont even like and im not much of a team player anyways, hence my craving for rated 1v1.

It’s just amazing how the GW1 Pvp population was 100 times larger and we only had rating in 1 gamemode (after the removel of HB).

Lack of gamemodes and forcing competitive play with broken matchmaking is what will kill this game.

guys, you dont know what you are asking for….

this is big can of worms.

They implement 1vs1 → all will find that some classes are better 1vs1 than others → players start to ask for balance, → and then we find we play classes that all are almost the same, normalized to ground, and game is ruined…

this will start ballance wars… you want that?! you know, “that game” is that way →

Who said anything about forcing rating? Internal MMR would be enough for random matches IMO.

dude we already know what classes and builds are better in 1v1 then others. instead of wanting it fixed you are scared of all classes being the same? no. adjust the classes power levels and tools, not their design philosophy, any developer/designer must strive for that or quit his job.

Or even better – make 1v1 same class only. Also a 10 min timer for bunkers with some condition for winning those duels(damage?).

same class only? no thx how boring. work on class balance instead! and yeah some anti-bunker mechanic is needed.

Umm i’d pass on 1v1, this can already be set up easily and we might get duels some time perhaps, but 2v2 and 3v3 would be amazing.

Would it work without healers? Probably not, although resses from downed state are somewhat like heals and help against burst. Is the game too spammy and sort of lacking in reaction requirements? Sure. But that doesnt matter to me as deathmatches would be the only thing to make me even try this game again. And most of the worst issues are happening everyday in conquest to begin with so to compare them and say ‘wont work/we got conq already’ is just a bad argument.

Sure Anet you tried to make Deathmatches work, but you werent actually trying, you were just seeing a game trying to do something it wasnt yet designed to do. You have to start somewhere dont you. If you would actually try then we might see some balance (lol) changes to better facilitate another game mode after its been added.

Gandarel.5091:

rimpak.8529:

Where did you find that anet is against such pvp mode? Why would they? :O

Because they tested deathmatch, but neither of the teams wanted to start the fight, so they move forward to conquest.

So? Then you make an Arena where the players start close to eachother.

My god Arenanet

Change your company to Arenanot already

janka.2156:

guys, you dont know what you are asking for….

this is big can of worms.

They implement 1vs1 -> all will find that some classes are better 1vs1 than others -> players start to ask for balance, -> and then we find we play classes that all are almost the same, normalized to ground, and game is ruined…

this will start ballance wars… you want that?! you know, “that game” is that way ->

“That game” doesn’t even have 1v1 so get off it, jesus Christ. Boo hoo, the devs have to do their jobs and balance. Games with better 1v1 balance are better off in the long run anyways. I’ve played games where you’re useless 1v1 but if not targeted you can take out 20 guys because of aoe/cleave. Its not a good niche… Situational class usage is bad… Situational BUILD usage is okay. Plus every class can 1v1 already, moa is about the only concern…

janka.2156:

guys, you dont know what you are asking for….

this is big can of worms.

They implement 1vs1 -> all will find that some classes are better 1vs1 than others -> players start to ask for balance, -> and then we find we play classes that all are almost the same, normalized to ground, and game is ruined…

this will start ballance wars… you want that?! you know, “that game” is that way ->

Balance Wars? Dude everyone who asked for Balance cant play his class right…. EVERY Class has any Build to win against other Classes…

I’d give arena net tens of twenties! Of dollars for a 2v2 deatchmatch

I would pay monthly if the add a Arena System like in WoW… And dont cry because we want something from WoW… ^^

Deathmatch with leader boards, watch how fast conquest dies as a fun game mode is picked by the player.

Yes please, add such arena.

It seems alot of players want this option, me included.
for all those players who don’t want this stick to conquest.

this game needs this and as for balancing changes well i guess everyone in the meta knows that balance isn’t in a great place at the moment AOE condi builds will be less powerful but there is alot of decent 1v1 specs for each class. although i reakon a 2v2 or 3v3 ( yes wow format sorry) would be better numbers so tanky control build can be taken down with more ease where as 1v1 you may struggle obviously after time certain debuffs could be placed making tankier specs effective such as armour reduced 10% stacking after 8 mins or something wont effect glass cannons so much anyway!

just some thoughts try and keep this thread updated to be viewed after all any game mode added would bring more variety conquest is getting a little tedious time to time! and DM is the most talked about option!

Please anet, stop your pve update and make us a arena 1v1 or 2v2 ! Please !!!!!!!!!!

alot of guilds are doing this idea atm with custom arena’s and alot are interested there is so much pve content we need more pvp !

1v1 and 2v2 hell even 3v3 and i would play the game for a month without sleeping… they need to add arena like games to the game to add more variety. It makes it so much more better than solo q leader board and such because in thoes you depend on 4 other players. it is much more fun to have you and a friend battling it out for ranks than you and 4 randoms

agree totally also 4v5 literally every game sucks! conquest is old even a new game mode like LOL will be better at this point !