2 engis on opposing team: insta lose?

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Posted by: Bunschii.2918

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im pretty sure im not the only one feeling like this

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Posted by: ThunderCat.8395

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not if you have 2 necros on your team.

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Posted by: Meglobob.8620

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Facing 2 engineers moving as one is a truly AWFUL experience.

Happened to me a few days ago on sky hammer, they stuck together like glue, spent 70% of the game on the floor, 20% falling to the ground and 10% running to a point, only to bump into 2 said engineers again…

Nightmare…logged out after that game…

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Posted by: Locuz.2651

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What type of engineers are you talking about? Condi, rifle, turrets? And what class are you playing?

I can imagine you feel like that on skyhammer due to all the pulls and pushes. On other maps they are fine.

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Posted by: Slininstien.7546

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The only engi to counter a necro is a decap engi on skyhammer. Seriously. Run a condi necro which you can get almost anywhere the build that is good, an you can OWN them. I, being that i’ve been playing necro, own the heck outta them and yea. Whoever says engi is the best condi class doesnt know necro. And if they’re zerker turrets, try to dodge them as much as you can, use fear to CC the engi. Not sure if you know this but an engi has 1 form of stability and i dont think it’s accessed via the turret build.

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Posted by: vincecontix.1264

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More like bunkers on the other team while you have none=insta lose. Also other team having a bunker/support guard while you have none a lot of the time will result in a loss for your team.

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Posted by: Stimulant.3970

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The only engi to counter a necro is a decap engi on skyhammer. Seriously. Run a condi necro which you can get almost anywhere the build that is good, an you can OWN them. I, being that i’ve been playing necro, own the heck outta them and yea. Whoever says engi is the best condi class doesnt know necro. And if they’re zerker turrets, try to dodge them as much as you can, use fear to CC the engi. Not sure if you know this but an engi has 1 form of stability and i dont think it’s accessed via the turret build.

Only bad engis lose to condi necros. or any necro…

but only bad engis play turret builds anyways. they are one dimensional and once turrets get aoed they go down too quick. they are only good for solo holding a home point from 1 person. more than that they are terrible.

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Posted by: Benjamin.8237

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Only bad engis lose to condi necros. or any necro…

False. Condition Necro counters Engineer in lots of ways, an Engineer should only engage a Necro if the Necro is already low, a flat out 1v1 will most of the time result in a Necro win.

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Posted by: vincecontix.1264

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The only engi to counter a necro is a decap engi on skyhammer. Seriously. Run a condi necro which you can get almost anywhere the build that is good, an you can OWN them. I, being that i’ve been playing necro, own the heck outta them and yea. Whoever says engi is the best condi class doesnt know necro. And if they’re zerker turrets, try to dodge them as much as you can, use fear to CC the engi. Not sure if you know this but an engi has 1 form of stability and i dont think it’s accessed via the turret build.

Only bad engis lose to condi necros. or any necro…

but only bad engis play turret builds anyways. they are one dimensional and once turrets get aoed they go down too quick. they are only good for solo holding a home point from 1 person. more than that they are terrible.

I think you have it the other way around if necro loss to engine he/she is a bad necro (turret build maybe the exclusion).

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Posted by: Penguin.5197

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If two engies are insta win then 5 should get us tol2. But we all now the players know how to counter them there and theyll just roflstomp us

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

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If two engies are insta win then 5 should get us tol2. But we all now the players know how to counter them there and theyll just roflstomp us

5 engies on a team would be pretty much impossible to beat for the simple reason that you would never actually be able to get to them through the sheer number of turrets. You could get 15+ turrets on a point. with an AOE limit of 5, the turrets would kill you before you could even hit all of them.

Also can someone explain how a condi necro can beat a turret engineer? I have no method of killing their turrets, I only have 3 condition transfers/cleanses 2 of which are limited to 5 conditions and the engineer can apply 8 conditions every 3 seconds indefinitely. I cleanse the first 8 conditions with my heal. I cleanse the next application with my transfer, do it once more with my other transfer and then I have them all again 2 seconds later and then I die.

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Posted by: Romek.4201

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2+ necro in your team = insta lose

cause 95% necroplayers can´t play and throw everythign on floor and f1 + when not everything on staff is on cd they are not happy

and they all think they are THE Imba roamer while walking like a duck

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Posted by: Benjamin.8237

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If two engies are insta win then 5 should get us tol2. But we all now the players know how to counter them there and theyll just roflstomp us

5 engies on a team would be pretty much impossible to beat for the simple reason that you would never actually be able to get to them through the sheer number of turrets. You could get 15+ turrets on a point. with an AOE limit of 5, the turrets would kill you before you could even hit all of them.

Also can someone explain how a condi necro can beat a turret engineer? I have no method of killing their turrets, I only have 3 condition transfers/cleanses 2 of which are limited to 5 conditions and the engineer can apply 8 conditions every 3 seconds indefinitely. I cleanse the first 8 conditions with my heal. I cleanse the next application with my transfer, do it once more with my other transfer and then I have them all again 2 seconds later and then I die.

Except the Turret build sucks and is only good at beating scrubs. A 3 kit Engineer or Celestial Engineer brings so much more to a team. Also I think you are doing something wrong, Signet of Spite + a few sceptre autos will kill an Engineer. Engineers have the worst (or at least second worst) condition cleanse in the game, they have sustained cleanse…burst them and watch them die. Also the rocket turrets shot can be dodged by strafing left to right. Secondly if the Engineer is using a turret build, their condition application sucks, at most they use 1 kit (bomb or grenade) as turret Engineers require Rocket + Rifle. Rocket also has a 50s cd if you kill it, but you are a necro so I can see you struggling there.

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