2 to 1 cheating needs to be reduced

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Posted by: Milferd.3780

Milferd.3780

What I call 2 to 1 cheating is when a bunch of people Q together for solo or even worse on hot join. What happens is which ever side has more people from the group on it will win because the lower number of group members side will deliberately not fight well. 2to one is named as all it requires is 2 members of the group on one side and one on the other. Lazy or crude uses of this is by DC when they have not done it enough to get dishonorable. I should have kept records but I have had people on my side dc way more often than the other side going a person short. But you can do this cheat without dishonorable simple by having your members on the smaller side do stupid stuff like only fighting off the points and being slow getting to the fights.

I noticed at it’s worse the few days before the change to the current pvp system when I lost a huge number of matches in a row while leading in capturing points most of the time. It seamed like I was always outnumbered yet the other side kept 2 or all 3 of the points.

I know it will be hard to monitor and fix this. But it should be possible to use pattern matching tools to note win ratios varying by which players are on a players team combined with players who seam to change in performance greatly to often.

My last match I was on with three idiots that ran by an enemy controlled home to fight enemy, yes totally possible just happens it seams way more to me than other side, or 4 or 5 on the other sides team were members of the same group as the “idiots” Yes there were other idiot things and I seamed to always be outnumbered 2, 3 and 4 to one even when all three points were enemy controlled. I know some of this luck but cheating this way is to temping I’m sure to some.

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Posted by: Shockwave.1230

Shockwave.1230

Not cheating bro, sync queuing.

Sometimes the people syncing fight each other by the way. Probably a 50-50 shot they’ll be on opposite teams.

It’s something you do when you want to play with people you know while in solo queue.

Doesn’t matter come next patch though, so no point in complaining.

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Posted by: risenlord.2035

risenlord.2035

lol team stacking in hotjoins is not cheating, either join the stacked team, or play well.

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Posted by: GOSU.9574

GOSU.9574

join the stacked team

Oh? Really? How do you join the 4 man team when you are on the 3 man team? What if it is 5v4? Think.

Hey dude you are walking into a wall.

smack..Wut?…smack…smack…

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Posted by: risenlord.2035

risenlord.2035

hmm that’s a difficult question, there’s absolutely no way to join on a stacked team. oh except autobalance and friggin waiting until a spot opens.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

It’s quite easy to put yourself on a stacked team in Hotjoin. Just join the understrength team to equalise numbers, and almost immediately one of the spectators will hop back onto the stacked team, making it 4v5. Now go back into Spectate and make it 3v5, wait for Autobalance to kick in, join the stacked team. Done. :P

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Posted by: cheese.4739

cheese.4739

It’s quite easy to put yourself on a stacked team in Hotjoin. Just join the understrength team to equalise numbers, and almost immediately one of the spectators will hop back onto the stacked team, making it 4v5. Now go back into Spectate and make it 3v5, wait for Autobalance to kick in, join the stacked team. Done. :P

And this works pretty well to force those dafties who camp in spectate mode to just get into the match rather than wait-and-see.

Usually there’ll be one ‘preferred’ team, that starts 2v1 or 3v2. Say people are trying to stack on red:
- join blue
- spectate, to force AB, when someone immediately joins red
- after autobalance kicks in, if there are any spectators left they’ve probably landed on red
- rinse, repeat until it’s 5v5
- maybe actually enjoy a fair match, or at least a match where everything isn’t purely decided by 5v4

Doesn’t work if there aren’t any spectate-campers, sadly – in that case, I recommend just forcing AB to get onto the higher-numbers team and just hoping that the poor sods on the other team either get a fifth or know to do the same.

I’m really looking forward to the end of hotjoins.

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Posted by: Rothem.8174

Rothem.8174

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I think yall missed the point.

He’s talking about match fixing.

Go figure