(edited by Pride N Greed.8106)
3 months have not played. Spvp/tpvp fixed?
Firstly ranking and stuff for sPvP should not be added, its for fun scrims and testing things of that nature or tournaments. If you want Rating based pvp you go in tournaments.
Killing players has always been important in the meta it helps create odd man rushes soto speak.
Warriors are not good right now but I think that is more about other classes being over powered then warriors being bad.
They make changes basically every 2 weeks in balance, sometimes it is smaller then others but there are changes for sure.
So can anyone fill me in on whats been going on gw2. Last time i seriously played the game was in december-january. I left due to the poor quality of pvp and lack of support from the devs to improve upon it. So here is a couple of questions if anyone can answer.
1. Has rankings been implemented or ratings(elo)? I don’t care if you played 10000x hour in the game. That does not gauge skill. It just shows me you have more free time to play than i do.
2. Is the meta still about holding points and not actually killing players? Just dot kitten up and leave people in the downed state?
3. Do warrior still suck some serious donkey kitten? It has been like that since launch.
4. Does a net still add more pve content than pvp? Pve is serious business after all.
5. How is the class balancing? Are they still on the snail pace of fixing classes?
Lastly, is it worth coming back at this point or is it just a waste of time and just wait till it becomes e-sport like they promised?
That is all thanks!
They’re still snail-paced with the PvP spectrum of this game because as you asked if they add more PvE content than PvP, that is still the truth of the matter. More PvE focus in their “PvP oriented game”. I’ve found Arenanet likes to say things to appease players, and … pretty much leave it at that … there’s really very little follow through with what they preach.
As far as ranking goes … from what I’ve read, and even personally witnessed, I will have to say that the hidden player ratings they use is a botched joke. Most likely the biggest contributing factor here is how absurdly stupid Arenanet was by merging Premade teams vs Solo queue pugs, why that was ever an idea baffles me (perhaps laziness / lack of … gasp … development!?). Many claim with the most recent patch it’s broken, and who knows, maybe it really is. But if you read the forums enough, or even dabble a little in it, I’m sure you’ll find it’s nothing but a frustrating waste of time and I won’t personally recommend it to you.
Getting rid of the premade tournaments was a need, past like 10pm there was no more tournaments because there was not enough teams.
I’d also say when they come out with pvp rewards there should be none for solo q, it will always be more popular, the insentive should be to play in a group.
Why should the incentive be to play only in a group? Also, that isn’t going to help with one of the large problems with this game, and that is a dwindling playerbase.
Maybe not in PvE, but most noticably in sPvP. If you cater only to the elite few, the groups who play together, instead of casual players, you can simply expect more of a decline in the game.
Perhaps if this game were more casual friendly and actually fun for them and they had a reason to play, there would be a growing number rather than a decline, which realistically could promote more teams to form. Another way of saying this is, you aren’t going to get more teams out of less players.
Edit: Also … felt the random need to put this out there. SoloQ and TeamQ should have separate leader boards. But I don’t think either should receive any less reward than the other, at least on a cosmetic level.
Naturally teams are what’s going to be focused on if this game ever some crazy how makes it to esports level, and thus, team play HAS built in incentive. But to punish people for SoloQ simply because they’re casual by not giving similar rewards is only going to drive more people away from the game.
(edited by Jesiah.2457)
On more reflection I take back no reward for solo q, however the team q should have a much greater reward, to ideally encourage people to form teams. The rewards can not be the same level, because it will be the same as it was before. Everyone would solo q and the extremely small group would do team tournaments.
Then everyones dream of esports fails, not that I care about esports.
you should delete everyones in “Then everyones dream of esports fails, not that I care about esports.”
thx^^
So can anyone fill me in on whats been going on gw2. Last time i seriously played the game was in december-january. I left due to the poor quality of pvp and lack of support from the devs to improve upon it. So here is a couple of questions if anyone can answer.
1. Has rankings been implemented or ratings(elo)? I don’t care if you played 10000x hour in the game. That does not gauge skill. It just shows me you have more free time to play than i do.
2. Is the meta still about holding points and not actually killing players? Just dot kitten up and leave people in the downed state?
3. Do warrior still suck some serious donkey kitten? It has been like that since launch.
4. Does a net still add more pve content than pvp? Pve is serious business after all.
5. How is the class balancing? Are they still on the snail pace of fixing classes?
Lastly, is it worth coming back at this point or is it just a waste of time and just wait till it becomes e-sport like they promised?
That is all thanks!
They’re still snail-paced with the PvP spectrum of this game because as you asked if they add more PvE content than PvP, that is still the truth of the matter. More PvE focus in their “PvP oriented game”. I’ve found Arenanet likes to say things to appease players, and … pretty much leave it at that … there’s really very little follow through with what they preach.
As far as ranking goes … from what I’ve read, and even personally witnessed, I will have to say that the hidden player ratings they use is a botched joke. Most likely the biggest contributing factor here is how absurdly stupid Arenanet was by merging Premade teams vs Solo queue pugs, why that was ever an idea baffles me (perhaps laziness / lack of … gasp … development!?). Many claim with the most recent patch it’s broken, and who knows, maybe it really is. But if you read the forums enough, or even dabble a little in it, I’m sure you’ll find it’s nothing but a frustrating waste of time and I won’t personally recommend it to you.
Thanks for being honest. Coming from gw1 and waiting since 07 on how amazing the pvp was going to be. I am really disappointed by the lack of development anet has put towards pvp. I feel like I was lied too :*(
The game has almost been out 1 year officially and maybe 5-6 years of development and the pvp definitely does not reflect the refinement or quality imo. I am not a developer so maybe I shouldn’t judge. But I can see anets intention and its not pvp.
Regardless, from what you stated hiding ratings seems very fishy to me. Why hide them maybe there is none lol. They just said it to get people to lay off that subject.
They WERE hidden → https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/
Other than that, Jesiah sums sPvP up nicely. I’m a returning GW1 player too and the PvP in this game is no where close to as fun as the original.
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They WERE hidden -> https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/
and STILL are.
Thanks for being honest. Coming from gw1 and waiting since 07 on how amazing the pvp was going to be. I am really disappointed by the lack of development anet has put towards pvp. I feel like I was lied too :*(
The game has almost been out 1 year officially and maybe 5-6 years of development and the pvp definitely does not reflect the refinement or quality imo. I am not a developer so maybe I shouldn’t judge. But I can see anets intention and its not pvp.
Regardless, from what you stated hiding ratings seems very fishy to me. Why hide them maybe there is none lol. They just said it to get people to lay off that subject.
Just because you aren’t a developer doesn’t take away from the fact that you can simply compare and contrast. And in your case, coming from GW1, you are more entitled to do so than myself. (But that sure doesn’t stop me! ;p)
I too feel like I’ve been lied to. I have little to no respect for Arenanet as I feel like I bought this game and invested a few months hardcoring this game on the premises that it was going to be a “PvP oriented game” and that they’re “Serious about making it esports quality” and whatnot else they spewed out about PvP. All these expectations set in place, all this hype, made me think that the PvP would receive a great deal of care and focus. Sadly, this is not the case, as you can plainly see that their front page is always always PvE centric and updates consistently, where as PvP does not receive anything near that kind of focus.
Truthfully I dropped off the face of the game for about 7 months and came back to almost exactly the same game, but with spectator mode. Then experienced the last two patches, and the most recent is just … sad … unless you’re a necro. Might be needless to say, but I’m planning on taking another couple months break from this game as I’m already bored stiff of their conquest mode and one additional map that I hadn’t played yet. That’s quite honestly a pathetic amount of production they’ve put into their “PvP oriented game”. Not to mention … I honestly feel like the damage a single player can dish out is just ridiculously high … I don’t appreciate any kind of fight, especially 1v1 situations, where it’s literally over in 2-3 seconds. :/
Also, I wouldn’t be looking forward to their newest map which will include little jump jet mechanics to ‘boost’ you up to platforms that are built in around the map. Players have reported that with high latency, those jump panel things are a nightmare. Even some of my friends who only chill at about 100-200 MS struggled with those or couldn’t get enough height to get out of the Dragon Ball starting room. And Arenanet expects this unpolished mechanic (like how much else of sPvP?) to actually be accepted and appreciated, of course without actually getting player feedback first. Because they obviously care, right?
Also, it’s still conquest mode. Woop-dee-doo … same game, different and infinitely more annoying map with a super laz0r cannon! Interesting … laz0r is apparently not misspelled in any way or form. I love these forums which are full of kittens, all day, every day.
They WERE hidden -> https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/
and STILL are.
Oh really? I see leaderboards (and assumed that’s what Op wanted), so what’s still hidden? Serious question since I want to know :-)
That Cloaked One / That Phantom Memser / That Dark One
ThatShortGuy.com
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They WERE hidden -> https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/
and STILL are.
Oh really? I see leaderboards (and assumed that’s what Op wanted), so what’s still hidden? Serious question since I want to know :-)
The rating is hidden, which leaves us clueless how the rating is affected.
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They WERE hidden -> https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/
Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up!
and STILL are.
Oh really? I see leaderboards (and assumed that’s what Op wanted), so what’s still hidden? Serious question since I want to know :-)
The rating is hidden, which leaves us clueless how the rating is affected.
Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up!
That Cloaked One / That Phantom Memser / That Dark One
ThatShortGuy.com
ThatShortGuy.com
Thanks for being honest. Coming from gw1 and waiting since 07 on how amazing the pvp was going to be. I am really disappointed by the lack of development anet has put towards pvp. I feel like I was lied too :*(
The game has almost been out 1 year officially and maybe 5-6 years of development and the pvp definitely does not reflect the refinement or quality imo. I am not a developer so maybe I shouldn’t judge. But I can see anets intention and its not pvp.
Regardless, from what you stated hiding ratings seems very fishy to me. Why hide them maybe there is none lol. They just said it to get people to lay off that subject.
Just because you aren’t a developer doesn’t take away from the fact that you can simply compare and contrast. And in your case, coming from GW1, you are more entitled to do so than myself. (But that sure doesn’t stop me! ;p)
I too feel like I’ve been lied to. I have little to no respect for Arenanet as I feel like I bought this game and invested a few months hardcoring this game on the premises that it was going to be a “PvP oriented game” and that they’re “Serious about making it esports quality” and whatnot else they spewed out about PvP. All these expectations set in place, all this hype, made me think that the PvP would receive a great deal of care and focus. Sadly, this is not the case, as you can plainly see that their front page is always always PvE centric and updates consistently, where as PvP does not receive anything near that kind of focus.
Truthfully I dropped off the face of the game for about 7 months and came back to almost exactly the same game, but with spectator mode. Then experienced the last two patches, and the most recent is just … sad … unless you’re a necro. Might be needless to say, but I’m planning on taking another couple months break from this game as I’m already bored stiff of their conquest mode and one additional map that I hadn’t played yet. That’s quite honestly a pathetic amount of production they’ve put into their “PvP oriented game”. Not to mention … I honestly feel like the damage a single player can dish out is just ridiculously high … I don’t appreciate any kind of fight, especially 1v1 situations, where it’s literally over in 2-3 seconds. :/
Also, I wouldn’t be looking forward to their newest map which will include little jump jet mechanics to ‘boost’ you up to platforms that are built in around the map. Players have reported that with high latency, those jump panel things are a nightmare. Even some of my friends who only chill at about 100-200 MS struggled with those or couldn’t get enough height to get out of the Dragon Ball starting room. And Arenanet expects this unpolished mechanic (like how much else of sPvP?) to actually be accepted and appreciated, of course without actually getting player feedback first. Because they obviously care, right?
Also, it’s still conquest mode. Woop-dee-doo … same game, different and infinitely more annoying map with a super laz0r cannon! Interesting … laz0r is apparently not misspelled in any way or form. I love these forums which are full of kittens, all day, every day.
Sad to hear buddy! I guess I will stay away from the game until they start taking pvp more serious. If they don’t than oh well anet sure suckered me this time around :P
P.S. I think its silly to hide the rating what reason do they have. I honestly think they don’t have one set and might just go off w-l ratio or something simple.