Guild Wars 2

Just played a tpvp where there was just 4 guardians with constant stability and knockbacks. Really kills the joy in pvp when to win = bunker. Anet should seriously look into nerfing guardian bunkers right now they are ridiculous

did you not have a necro or engi in the team?

I’ve played with my friends just for fun as 2 support staff eles + 2 bunker guardians + backtab glass-cannon thief.
Scores?
Forest – 500:25
Legacy – 500:10
Khylo – 500:0.
No one could die here, and if there was a bunker v two from the opposing team, our thief simply went to help and one-shotted one of the enemies. Simple.
This is not any kind of flaming or smth, just saying that bunkers must be nerfed and the glass cannon builds can’t be left as they are.

Reikou.7068:

did you not have a necro or engi in the team?

One of these would pretty much have just crushed them.
I would Much more want to meet a bunch of guardian bunkers (they are quite easy to counter, and when the whole team is based upon them..) than for example a bunch of thiefs, or warriors or mesmers.

without bunker glass cannons will become useless and ppl will change builds to something more self sufficient… bunkers need nerfing=problem solved

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

without bunker glass cannons will become useless and ppl will change builds to something more self sufficient… bunkers need nerfing=problem solved

without glass cannons bunkers will become useless and ppl will change builds to something more self sufficient… glass cannons need nerfing=problem solved

Rythgar.2896:

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

without bunker glass cannons will become useless and ppl will change builds to something more self sufficient… bunkers need nerfing=problem solved

without glass cannons bunkers will become useless and ppl will change builds to something more self sufficient… glass cannons need nerfing=problem solved

not really, because bunkers are not here as reaction to glass cannons, but because of cap point mode of the game. glass cannons are here as reaction to bunkers or as suport to bunkers, so it all started with bunkers

Ammandril.9150:

I’ve played with my friends just for fun as 2 support staff eles + 2 bunker guardians + backtab glass-cannon thief.
Scores?
Forest – 500:25
Legacy – 500:10
Khylo – 500:0.
No one could die here, and if there was a bunker v two from the opposing team, our thief simply went to help and one-shotted one of the enemies. Simple.
This is not any kind of flaming or smth, just saying that bunkers must be nerfed and the glass cannon builds can’t be left as they are.

i guess you played vs randoms

what to nerf? knockback? lol guardians are the most nerfed class if they nerf it more guardians would rename its profession to guinea pigs .
ill just quote one of thieves best word: l2p

(instead of qq ing about 4 guardians you could concentrate to burst down one by one not all at once, thats the difference between 5 skype players and random noob group)

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

Rythgar.2896:

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

without bunker glass cannons will become useless and ppl will change builds to something more self sufficient… bunkers need nerfing=problem solved

without glass cannons bunkers will become useless and ppl will change builds to something more self sufficient… glass cannons need nerfing=problem solved

not really, because bunkers are not here as reaction to glass cannons, but because of cap point mode of the game. glass cannons are here as reaction to bunkers or as suport to bunkers, so it all started with bunkers

And you know this how? Which one came first? The hen or the egg? My post was not to say you were wrong, just saying that there is always two sides to the same coin. Remove bunkers and glass cannons Will stay in the game, probably even increase in numbers since alot will use them to even easier roflstomp the “balanced classes”. Remove glass cannons and people will just CC or negate bunkers in other ways.

In my eyes bunkers might need some tweaks (and have gotten plenty, shout guards are much weaker now for example) and are kind of necessary at the moment (just like, for example, the mesmer). But glass cannons is not just a balance issue, but in my eyes a flawed concept all in all.

Bunkers= A class that can outlive 1-2 players (skill being a huge factor here) and being considered so strong at the moment due to conquest being the only PvP format.
Glass cannons= A class that will instant gibb everything, even bunkers (skill is a much lesser factor here) but still fills no other role than to..instant gibb people.