4v5 still suppose to give pip loss?(Resolved)

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Posted by: ZilentNight.5089

ZilentNight.5089

So this happened to us last night, a player on our team quit the game mid match leaving us 4v5 while we were only 50 points behind….this quickly snowballed and we lost by a huge margin at the end and still gave us a pip loss..

It was clearly stated in the patch notes that this would not result in a pip loss…

“If a player from your team deserts the match, and your team is then defeated, you’ll lose no pips for that match (and the match won’t count as a loss should you be on a win streak).”

Here is the link to the original post:
https://competitive.guildwars2.com/en/news/upcoming-changes-for-pvp-league-season-two

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Posted by: Supreme.3164

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On the other side even a DC is counted as desertion and even if you reconnect, you still get the dishonour and pip loss, in my case I DC at the start and reconnect to win the game regardless…I get dishonour and pip loss…it’s BS absolute crap.
I don’t get it if somebody DC and then come back before game it’s over…not even mid game, the game barely started…why I get dishonour?

It takes forever to reload GW2, you need to get past 5 loading screens before getting into the game again and that can take up to 5m

The problem is still on anet side with their bad servers as usual because everything else run perfectly fine except random DC from gw2

Why are DC treated like ragequit? it makes no bloody sense, if the guy who DCed come back why he gets treated like a ragequitter?

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Posted by: Teutos.8620

Teutos.8620

I had the same. Teammate didn’t play since the middle of the match, at the end of the match two of your teammates have already left the match. (I was SoloQing) Still counted as a lost.

System still bugged – as if I had expected something else

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

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If the guy who drops was in a party with you, then you get to lose a pip.

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Posted by: Evan Lesh

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Was the teammate that left in your party?

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Posted by: Nikola.3841

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Real problem here is probably how to differentiate between real DC and fake one

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Posted by: Jourdelune.7456

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Real problem here is probably how to differentiate between real DC and fake one

The real problem here, is person in your party or in your team but not your party have two different solutions.

If you invite a guy in your party and he left (DCed or ragequit) the party is penalized. While a random soloq will not penalized your party.

But more than often, it’s a connection issues from some server… so, it’s bad to have two differents solutions for the same collectivity problem.

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Posted by: Crell.6401

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But more than often, it’s a connection issues from some server… so, it’s bad to have two differents solutions for the same collectivity problem.

Nope. Because one is a solution for gaming the system, the other is not.

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Posted by: ZilentNight.5089

ZilentNight.5089

Yes the player was in our party, obviously they are not going to be re-invited in future games, this makes a lot more sense now, thanks for the quick reply!

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Posted by: Gaile Gray

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Zilent — if you’re the one who updated the thread title to add “resolved” I want to give you a huge “thank you!” It really helps forum members to see those notes, so kudos for the helpful update.

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Posted by: Pyriall.1683

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Zilent — if you’re the one who updated the thread title to add “resolved” I want to give you a huge “thank you!” It really helps forum members to see those notes, so kudos for the helpful update.

Do you see how great two way communication is? Now, can you imagine if your team did the same back to the community for hot topics? It would be so great!!!

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Posted by: Teutos.8620

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My teammate who left the game was NOT a part member.

Still lost a pip. Problem NOT solved.

Edit: Next time the problem happens again, I will make my own thread (with the exact documentation which match it was), seems posting in the same thread get’s you completely ignored.

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Posted by: Erik Waananen

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My teammate who left the game was NOT a part member.

Still lost a pip. Problem NOT solved.

Edit: Next time the problem happens again, I will make my own thread (with the exact documentation which match it was), seems posting in the same thread get’s you completely ignored.

If this is still happening to you, and it turns out that your situation isn’t the same as ZilentNight’s (where the player that disconnected in your match was also a party member), then I encourage to please either return here or definitely make another post so that we can continue to investigate things further. While ZilentNight’s situation was resolved by getting additional information pertaining to that specific match, if you find that this is still happening to you (or anyone else for that matter), then please don’t hesitate to let us know, as we have no intention of ignoring players if this seems to be an actual recurring issue with Season 2.

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Posted by: Teutos.8620

Teutos.8620

I’ll do that

BTW: I have found other bugs:

Killerassel.2197 posted at 22:06 CET in the map chat, the he got a queue pop, the match didn’t start and he got deserter.

Another players answered, that he got a queue pop in the second match and he had to fight with the ‘map select’-screen the whole match.

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Posted by: ZilentNight.5089

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Zilent — if you’re the one who updated the thread title to add “resolved” I want to give you a huge “thank you!” It really helps forum members to see those notes, so kudos for the helpful update.

I did update the title, you’re welcome and thank you for the quick response

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Posted by: Brent.1580

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I solo queued on my elementalist tonight and we started out pulling ahead with a solid 50-100 point lead. About halfway through or a little less, the other team started a comeback and I noticed that one of our team appeared afk. Then we noticed that he was dc’d. The other team just snowballed us after that. He was not, nor was ever, in my party. I lost a pip at the end of the match.