5 man teams required in ranked
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Maybe you prefer the old system, I don’t know. You seem to think nothing has changed. Personally though, I love what they have done with pvp for the most part and many others seem to feel the same way. This is why I say it’s not a good comparison to say “well we had a split queue back then and it didn’t work so therefore it will never work again”.
You love what they have done to pvp? What do you love? What is better now compared to then?
While the system itself got more polished the pvp itself is arguably worse, more spammy and less skillbased.
Engi for example whent from a highly skill and timing dependant prof during the rabid engi days till the spammy “I run around and just rotate all my stuff on CD” prof it is today.
The game itself became a lot more about “just spamming your (aoe) spells on cd and on point”. Think reaper vs old school necro. DH vs old school guard. Chrono vs old school mesmer.
Name one class that became more skillbased now if compared to just before HOT?
And ooh ye. The matchmaking is better if compared to the old days when ladders where split?
The system itself might be better. But due to the limited size of GW2 pvp community the matchmaking is pretty much the same. To avoid super long queues ppl will get matched up vs and with eachother, even if theyre far apart in rating.
“many others seem to feel the same way”.
Within my circle of in game friends/contacts ppl think the direct opposite. They feel the game whent from bad to worse.
Most of the time when i check GW2 on twitch, i dont even see a single pvp streamer with more than 10 viewers. All big names quited or just logg on to cash in during the bigger tournaments.
You must be the biggest optimist ever to think that adding another ladder to GW2 pvp will be succesfull.
What do I love? Why ask this again when I already mentioned this? I said I love what they have done for pvp for the most part. Earlier in my post I specifically mentioned the positive changes such as matchmaking changes, the new leaderboard system, visible ratings, and better rewards and what not.
Never said a thing about class balance so not sure why you went off on a rant about that.
And yes, I said many others feel as I do about the changes I mentioned. The fact that your friends hate the game as much as you does not invalidate that.
The fact that pro league players have moved on to other games is simply because Anet has not announced any future pro league plans, and it is not the end of the world nor will it destroy the game.
I don’t have to be the biggest optimist in the world to think there is a way to properly implement a successful team queue. Sorry if my lack of pessimism bothers you.
5 man teams make people look and feel better than they are, farming solos. Sorry, I guess that must feel good, but I’m not willing to play punching bag for someone else’s jollies.
Yes, I just play just for that. Farming solos. No fun playing with friends. No at all… Just want to ruin your lives.
Ranked is for getting a personal rank, 5-man teams hides your true personal rank behind team skill, there is a need of some team game mode, but its not the actual ranked ,no ofseason or in season
Whatever, just let me play with my friends and be rewarded for it. (Same end reward as in ranked. Can be distributed otherwise.)
With all the BS that came with solo/duo que I just have no wish to return to ranked. Some of my friends not even to game.
As players, we voted solo-duo. This boat has shipped away long ago, to never return again.
Yes, and now we players vote: solo queue and separately 2,3,5 man queue for season 6.
Check this link. (I’m fine with every option including possibility of 5 man que. Poll is still open and everyone can vote.)
While the system itself got more polished the pvp itself is arguably worse, more spammy and less skillbased.
Engi for example whent from a highly skill and timing dependant prof during the rabid engi days till the spammy “I run around and just rotate all my stuff on CD” prof it is today.
The game itself became a lot more about “just spamming your (aoe) spells on cd and on point”. Think reaper vs old school necro. DH vs old school guard. Chrono vs old school mesmer.
You must be the biggest optimist ever to think that adding another ladder to GW2 pvp will be succesfull.
I agree with you regarding HoT and new builds.
I don’t agree about not wishing to try at least.
Players don’t want the “freedom” to queue as a team. They want the “freedom” to exclude. Raids are proof enough of that.
Pretty soon we’d have dps trials to get on a PvP team. NO THANKS. Go exclude somewhere else.
Wow, just wow!
I enjoy the 2’s queues. Don’t listen to the angrys, please.
We are more sad than angry. It looks to me people who are against 5 man queue are the angry and bitter ones.
We are more sad than angry. It looks to me people who are against 5 man queue are the angry and bitter ones.
Noone in this thread is against it… in fact we wish it was possible/sustainable.
I dont think pvp in GW2 (or MMOs in general) is popular enough to fill up a 5v5 ladder. Its a lot harder to keep the games flowing if you look at ladders with bigger groups in MMO pvp. Last implementation meant you could queueu but wouldnt get a pop within a reasonable timeframe 80% of the time (this meant having to wait 45 minutes most of the time).
Lets compare it with wow 5v5 arena. Good solid MMR system, really good incentives and a massive pvp community when compared to GW2s. Yet the same issue occured as with 5 man queues in Guild Wars 2. Played games during peak hours one day… and didnt get queues to pop the days after.
Its a bigger hassle to organize a playing session for your 5v5 team. This leads to inconsistant playing sessions. One moment a lot of ppl will play and the next moment no team will play. If ppl dont get queues they will stop playing that ladder.
To get back to that wow example. I played some 5v5 in that game on multiple chars spread across my 2 accounts. Every single time i tried to 5v5 we got games the first few days. Did well, had fun and wanted to play the next day or the day after. No queue pop.
Same applied to RBGs…..and same applied to 5v5 in GW2.
(edited by Locuz.2651)
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