A Game Isn't Built in a Day
It ain’t built in a year either by the looks of it.
And that’s cute, whipping out the high horse to berate people for being cynical and bitter, despite the fact that people have given tons of feedback, but when the game has stagnated for so long you can only be so hopeful…. so..
Not this high-horse idiocy again.
Lastly, there are several different teams in Anet regarding different kinds of content. PVP development team, Event development team… Just because a patch came out that you don’t like because it’s PVE doesn’t mean they just ignored you and stopped working on PVP. It just means that the PVE team hit their mark, while the PVP team is still working on changes.
A patch? As in, ONE SINGLE, patch? Do you not realize that PVE gets new content every fourteen days? PVP is a side note, an after-thought. If they cared about PVP they would do fast small patches, fixing the extremely broken things like stunlock warrior support builds and Necro’s. Remember before PAX? How they were waiting for THAT to finish before ‘patching’ the game? Oh that’s funny. Only thing they nerf’d was the petting zoo.
Lastly, there are several different teams in Anet regarding different kinds of content. PVP development team, Event development team… Just because a patch came out that you don’t like because it’s PVE doesn’t mean they just ignored you and stopped working on PVP. It just means that the PVE team hit their mark, while the PVP team is still working on changes.
A patch? As in, ONE SINGLE, patch? Do you not realize that PVE gets new content every fourteen days? PVP is a side note, an after-thought. If they cared about PVP they would do fast small patches, fixing the extremely broken things like stunlock warrior support builds and Necro’s. Remember before PAX? How they were waiting for THAT to finish before ‘patching’ the game? Oh that’s funny. Only thing they nerf’d was the petting zoo.
They have an entire separate team for PvP. Did you not even read the post? Whining about PvE content is pointless, because it’s a separate team.
Not this high-horse idiocy again.
Very constructive of you.
It ain’t built in a year either by the looks of it.
And that’s cute, whipping out the high horse to berate people for being cynical and bitter, despite the fact that people have given tons of feedback, but when the game has stagnated for so long you can only be so hopeful…. so..
Really? For a year, they haven’t done anything?
I can give you the list of changes they have made to PvP in the past year, if that helps. The Meta changes. It keeps changing. They make changes based on how the meta changes.
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Seriously.
How about, as a community, you come together with positive suggestions, critical feedback regarding what, specifically, is the issue with the meta at the moment, and what they can do to change it.
The constant bickering and crying and complaining by the players, those players who simply play the game instead of develop the game, needs to end, and although it won’t, you all should at least realize that what you’re doing is wrong and it isn’t helping.
Mostly, what I’m noticing is a bunch of keyboard warriors who don’t know the first thing about programming, those of you who don’t have a job developing a video game, complaining about the rate of changes that they are making.
You don’t know the first thing about developing a game. They are working hard. They play the game after work, too. They know what’s wrong with it. They know what they need to change, they hear you when you say you want X changed.
Lastly, there are several different teams in Anet regarding different kinds of content. PVP development team, Event development team… Just because a patch came out that you don’t like because it’s PVE doesn’t mean they just ignored you and stopped working on PVP. It just means that the PVE team hit their mark, while the PVP team is still working on changes.
They are working on game modes.
They are looking into the lag, which one of the forum mods said they would talk to the team on monday…. today.
They are working on more skills.
They are working on balance.
It took other MMO’s years to balance their game, and yet, no game is perfectly balanced. The meta will change every patch. There will always be a mass influx of one profession in PvP when it gets buffed. That’s the price you have to pay when you can go into Spvp starting from level 1.
You guys don’t know how to develop a game. Give constructive feedback, and chill the kitten out.
- I agree its not build in a day. I agree its not build in a year.
- But they should have made more then 50% of the game , before releasing it.
- I agree sometimes people are to hostile in games for almost nothing. I agree sometimes they behave like little kids.
- But after a year of failed patches, i cant blame them.
Every1 has a limit.
Anet should be glad there playerbase gave them a year. To bad they didn’t use it wisely.
Lastly, there are several different teams in Anet regarding different kinds of content. PVP development team, Event development team… Just because a patch came out that you don’t like because it’s PVE doesn’t mean they just ignored you and stopped working on PVP. It just means that the PVE team hit their mark, while the PVP team is still working on changes.
A patch? As in, ONE SINGLE, patch? Do you not realize that PVE gets new content every fourteen days? PVP is a side note, an after-thought. If they cared about PVP they would do fast small patches, fixing the extremely broken things like stunlock warrior support builds and Necro’s. Remember before PAX? How they were waiting for THAT to finish before ‘patching’ the game? Oh that’s funny. Only thing they nerf’d was the petting zoo.
They have an entire separate team for PvP. Did you not even read the post? Whining about PvE content is pointless, because it’s a separate team.
Not this high-horse idiocy again.
Very constructive of you.
It ain’t built in a year either by the looks of it.
And that’s cute, whipping out the high horse to berate people for being cynical and bitter, despite the fact that people have given tons of feedback, but when the game has stagnated for so long you can only be so hopeful…. so..
Really? For a year, they haven’t done anything?
I can give you the list of changes they have made to PvP in the past year, if that helps. The Meta changes. It keeps changing. They make changes based on how the meta changes.
Whining? It’s not whining. It’s simple fact. PVE is the main focus of GW2. It makes the most money. PVP makes no money on gem sales bar the finishers, which are the ONLY thing PVP’ers would be interested in buying.
The game is stale because unlike PVE, we get no refresh. We’re stuck with the same meta for months now. Petting zoo got nerf. Great! Ele’s still suck, Mesmer’s are low-tier support and Warriors, Necro, Thief, Guards and Engi’s are what make up most teams now. It’s overly common to meet teams composed of
2-3 wars or necro’s
1-2 thief or guard
sometimes an engi.
Taking a Mesmer/Ele is a handicap.
What does this have to do with PVE? Well it gets all the attention. Major updates every two weeks. PVP gets what? A side note. An after thought. A single ‘here you go, some fixes, now run along and let us make money off gems.’
I agree that the PvP community has been disappointing recently. Hopefully we can get our act together, because for some reason, the dev team keeps listening to our suggestions.
I also tried to say similar stuff, with moderate success, but eventually got shouted down. Thanks for making this effort. Walk a fine line between enabling QQ and fighting it.
Seriously.
How about, as a community, you come together with positive suggestions, critical feedback regarding what, specifically, is the issue with the meta at the moment, and what they can do to change it.
The constant bickering and crying and complaining by the players, those players who simply play the game instead of develop the game, needs to end, and although it won’t, you all should at least realize that what you’re doing is wrong and it isn’t helping.
Mostly, what I’m noticing is a bunch of keyboard warriors who don’t know the first thing about programming, those of you who don’t have a job developing a video game, complaining about the rate of changes that they are making.
You don’t know the first thing about developing a game. They are working hard. They play the game after work, too. They know what’s wrong with it. They know what they need to change, they hear you when you say you want X changed.
Lastly, there are several different teams in Anet regarding different kinds of content. PVP development team, Event development team… Just because a patch came out that you don’t like because it’s PVE doesn’t mean they just ignored you and stopped working on PVP. It just means that the PVE team hit their mark, while the PVP team is still working on changes.
They are working on game modes.
They are looking into the lag, which one of the forum mods said they would talk to the team on monday…. today.
They are working on more skills.
They are working on balance.
It took other MMO’s years to balance their game, and yet, no game is perfectly balanced. The meta will change every patch. There will always be a mass influx of one profession in PvP when it gets buffed. That’s the price you have to pay when you can go into Spvp starting from level 1.
You guys don’t know how to develop a game. Give constructive feedback, and chill the kitten out.
- I agree its not build in a day. I agree its not build in a year.
- But they should have made more then 50% of the game , before releasing it.
- I agree sometimes people are to hostile in games for almost nothing. I agree sometimes they behave like little kids.
- But after a year of failed patches, i cant blame them.
Every1 has a limit.Anet should be glad there playerbase gave them a year. To bad they didn’t use it wisely.
Solo Arenas were a step in the right direction, and yet, all that did was incite more crying.
Whenever you do something right, and you’re taken for granted for it, it’s a blow to your self-esteem.
It reminds me of a post from the devs awhile back, that stated something along the lines of “We made all this PvE content and these events for you guys… for you to simply waste your time grinding or abusing the content”
It’s hard to please a playerbase that wants a game built instantly. It took WoW a few years to get on its feet, work out the bugs, start balancing. WoW didn’t even have battleground PvP until a later patch. Each patch brought a crap ton of more problems. You all seem to ignore that every MMO that starts, starts rough, starts with bugs, and small patches that slowly get them in the right direction.
All of you who claim that they aren’t doing enough are just using a game that has had a decade of practice as an example. A game that still has a subscription, even after a decade.
Arena Net doesn’t make as much money as Blizzard does. They can’t afford teams of 100+ on every project, sorry.
I agree that the PvP community has been disappointing recently. Hopefully we can get our act together, because for some reason, the dev team keeps listening to our suggestions.
I also tried to say similar stuff, with moderate success, but eventually got shouted down. Thanks for making this effort. Walk a fine line between enabling QQ and fighting it.
Thank you. Eventually, I’ll quit trying to reason. I’ll wait it out, because ultimately, it’s a free game and I have fun playing it.
I agree that the PvP community has been disappointing recently. Hopefully we can get our act together, because for some reason, the dev team keeps listening to our suggestions.
I also tried to say similar stuff, with moderate success, but eventually got shouted down. Thanks for making this effort. Walk a fine line between enabling QQ and fighting it.
Thank you. Eventually, I’ll quit trying to reason. I’ll wait it out, because ultimately, it’s a free game and I have fun playing it.
Exactly.
Lastly, there are several different teams in Anet regarding different kinds of content. PVP development team, Event development team… Just because a patch came out that you don’t like because it’s PVE doesn’t mean they just ignored you and stopped working on PVP. It just means that the PVE team hit their mark, while the PVP team is still working on changes.
A patch? As in, ONE SINGLE, patch? Do you not realize that PVE gets new content every fourteen days? PVP is a side note, an after-thought. If they cared about PVP they would do fast small patches, fixing the extremely broken things like stunlock warrior support builds and Necro’s. Remember before PAX? How they were waiting for THAT to finish before ‘patching’ the game? Oh that’s funny. Only thing they nerf’d was the petting zoo.
They have an entire separate team for PvP. Did you not even read the post? Whining about PvE content is pointless, because it’s a separate team.
Not this high-horse idiocy again.
Very constructive of you.
It ain’t built in a year either by the looks of it.
And that’s cute, whipping out the high horse to berate people for being cynical and bitter, despite the fact that people have given tons of feedback, but when the game has stagnated for so long you can only be so hopeful…. so..
Really? For a year, they haven’t done anything?
I can give you the list of changes they have made to PvP in the past year, if that helps. The Meta changes. It keeps changing. They make changes based on how the meta changes.
Whining? It’s not whining. It’s simple fact. PVE is the main focus of GW2. It makes the most money. PVP makes no money on gem sales bar the finishers, which are the ONLY thing PVP’ers would be interested in buying.
The game is stale because unlike PVE, we get no refresh. We’re stuck with the same meta for months now. Petting zoo got nerf. Great! Ele’s still suck, Mesmer’s are low-tier support and Warriors, Necro, Thief, Guards and Engi’s are what make up most teams now. It’s overly common to meet teams composed of
2-3 wars or necro’s
1-2 thief or guard
sometimes an engi.Taking a Mesmer/Ele is a handicap.
What does this have to do with PVE? Well it gets all the attention. Major updates every two weeks. PVP gets what? A side note. An after thought. A single ‘here you go, some fixes, now run along and let us make money off gems.’
So, then the proposed fix would be to add more pvp-oriented gem items. Go post a suggestion. Use that same logic you used with me, and get people to back you up.
I actually agree with you, that if players interested in PvP had more things to spend gems on, maybe they would start patching PvP more often. More income = bigger teams, after all.
Not this high-horse idiocy again.
Very constructive of you.
About as constructive as yet another one of these threads, I’m just putting the correct amount of effort into these posts.
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Not this high-horse idiocy again.
Very constructive of you.
About as constructive as yet another one of these threads, don’t get kitteny.
Except my post is constructive, and states exactly what I want done. It gets to the point, it gives feedback that can be taken positively or negatively. You choose to take it negatively, get up in arms, and start trolling. What does this mean? It means you’re part of the problem, and not the solution.
Congratulations on being a worthless imbecile!
I’m not gonna use the T word, but constructive my kitten , you’re here to just stir the hornets nest.
Where are the Mods when you need em.
It’s been suggested. Tons of ideas have been suggested. And you know what we get every time?
Hey guys,
We agree with you. This has been something that has been greatly discussed and is definitely on our radar. There isn’t a time frame set yet, but I just just wanted to let you know it is something we are looking to change for the future. Sorry I can’t give more details at this time.
That is the basic ANet reply to every suggestion we’ve given them.
Not this high-horse idiocy again.
Very constructive of you.
About as constructive as yet another one of these threads, don’t get kitteny.
Except my post is constructive, and states exactly what I want done. It gets to the point, it gives feedback that can be taken positively or negatively. You choose to take it negatively, get up in arms, and start trolling. What does this mean? It means you’re part of the problem, and not the solution.
Congratulations on being a worthless imbecile!
I’m not gonna use the T word, but constructive my kitten , you’re here to just stir the hornets nest.
Where are the Mods when you need em.
I agree, posts like yours add nothing to the discussion.
It’s becoming a huge circle of giving feedback seeing little to no result, angry comments, then people saying we should calm down and give productive feedback and it starts over again.
I want to be positive, but I don’t think ANET will act on anything big in pvp until it hits rock bottom. So I say we keep giving our angry feedback and throw keep speaking out till we see some action or real effort on their part equal to Tequatl and Super Adventure Box. I think it’s complement to see angry posts because it means that people love the game, and would like to see it head in the right direction.
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Not this high-horse idiocy again.
Very constructive of you.
About as constructive as yet another one of these threads, don’t get kitteny.
Except my post is constructive, and states exactly what I want done. It gets to the point, it gives feedback that can be taken positively or negatively. You choose to take it negatively, get up in arms, and start trolling. What does this mean? It means you’re part of the problem, and not the solution.
Congratulations on being a worthless imbecile!
I’ll take that as a frustrated outing of defeat.
The sPvP community are nothing but a ship, sinking into oblivion with every balance patch. Most of the players on this forum, have given a lot of critical feedback and for what? Nothing really gets done. Instead we get more balance problems, like the petting zoo, op stun locked warriors/bunkers with a passive healing signet that keeps their HP above 90% consistently, and condition dmg from the necro is actually stronger than burst. AI covering your whole screen, making it a lot harder to find a little asura.
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Failementalist was nerfed in a day, so your point is MOOOOOOOOOOT.
All it took was 1 bwe to start the complete destruction of the elementalist class. So there. PvP content takes a while, whatever, but balancing can be done at anytime and with little to no programming, it is just that they choose not to.
Instead of having more devs work on balance, they had on balance dev working on trait symbols.
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This is an mmo forum, if someone isn’t whining chances are the game is dead.
This is an mmo forum, if someone isn’t whining chances are the game is dead.
What is their method? Is there a test server somewhere? How many people have access to it?
This is getting more and more of the feeling of a sinking ship. The most productive thing I could see is to show how spvp could make anet money and then change will probably happen.
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What is their method? Is there a test server somewhere? How many people have access to it?
This is getting more and more of the feeling of a sinking ship. The most productive thing I could see is to show how spvp could make anet money and then change will probably happen.
People love giving test servers too much credit, but the are hardly ever used for their intended purpose, mainly to get a head up on everybody else.
As u know im pro. ~Tomonobu Itagaki
This is an mmo forum, if someone isn’t whining chances are the game is dead.
This is an mmo forum, if someone isn’t whining chances are the game is dead.
Congratulations on being a worthless imbecile!
My hopes have been dashed. Stuff like this will make the thread a magnet for whining and intensify the giant shouting match, exactly what you claimed to be against. If you really want to improve the community, you’ll step away from the thread (or more likely, it will be closed by mods).
Congratulations on being a worthless imbecile!
My hopes have been dashed. Stuff like this will make the thread a magnet for whining and intensify the giant shouting match, exactly what you claimed to be against. If you really want to improve the community, you’ll step away from the thread (or more likely, it will be closed by mods).
Show me a post that has improved the community and has had a real result in change of anykind for spvp.
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Honestly, I can’t blame people for becoming frustrated. There have not been many changes at all to pvp in the past year, they have stated things that they plan to do recently which should have been in at launch.
I’m not saying that the team deserves to be berated for this, not at all, but if anyone plays Marvel Heroes and reads the forums [stick with me here], you’ll see that the Gazillion team have almost constant interaction with people on the forums, make very significant updates almost weekly, constantly aim to make their game grow a little more fun every time they touch it. I can’t say the same happens here, tiny changes to gameplay take months to happen, when it really shouldn’t.
there have been thousand of topics regarding suggestions but they have been completely ignored till now, and now it’s too late and everyone (seriously, EVERYONE) left the game. so don’t say we should give suggestions or feedback because we did it millions of times.
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there have been thousand of topics regarding suggestions but they have been completely ignored till now, and now it’s too late and everyone (seriously, EVERYONE) left the game. so don’t say we should give suggestions or feedback because we did it millions of times.
I want the failementalist fix, but if they were to take some of the ideas from this forum, it will wreck the game.m (same reason why the elementalist got warp into the failementalist).
Just because an idea seems good due to your limited experience with development doesn’t necessarily make a good idea. Just remember when you post comments like “people post idea=good”.
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This is an mmo forum, if someone isn’t whining chances are the game is dead.
This is an mmo forum, if someone isn’t whining chances are the game is dead.
Seriously.
How about, as a community, you come together with positive suggestions, critical feedback regarding what, specifically, is the issue with the meta at the moment, and what they can do to change it.
The constant bickering and crying and complaining by the players, those players who simply play the game instead of develop the game, needs to end, and although it won’t, you all should at least realize that what you’re doing is wrong and it isn’t helping.
Mostly, what I’m noticing is a bunch of keyboard warriors who don’t know the first thing about programming, those of you who don’t have a job developing a video game, complaining about the rate of changes that they are making.
You don’t know the first thing about developing a game. They are working hard. They play the game after work, too. They know what’s wrong with it. They know what they need to change, they hear you when you say you want X changed.
Lastly, there are several different teams in Anet regarding different kinds of content. PVP development team, Event development team… Just because a patch came out that you don’t like because it’s PVE doesn’t mean they just ignored you and stopped working on PVP. It just means that the PVE team hit their mark, while the PVP team is still working on changes.
They are working on game modes.
They are looking into the lag, which one of the forum mods said they would talk to the team on monday…. today.
They are working on more skills.
They are working on balance.
It took other MMO’s years to balance their game, and yet, no game is perfectly balanced. The meta will change every patch. There will always be a mass influx of one profession in PvP when it gets buffed. That’s the price you have to pay when you can go into Spvp starting from level 1.
You guys don’t know how to develop a game. Give constructive feedback, and chill the kitten out.
- I agree its not build in a day. I agree its not build in a year.
- But they should have made more then 50% of the game , before releasing it.
- I agree sometimes people are to hostile in games for almost nothing. I agree sometimes they behave like little kids.
- But after a year of failed patches, i cant blame them.
Every1 has a limit.Anet should be glad there playerbase gave them a year. To bad they didn’t use it wisely.
Solo Arenas were a step in the right direction, and yet, all that did was incite more crying.
Whenever you do something right, and you’re taken for granted for it, it’s a blow to your self-esteem.
It reminds me of a post from the devs awhile back, that stated something along the lines of “We made all this PvE content and these events for you guys… for you to simply waste your time grinding or abusing the content”
It’s hard to please a playerbase that wants a game built instantly. It took WoW a few years to get on its feet, work out the bugs, start balancing. WoW didn’t even have battleground PvP until a later patch. Each patch brought a crap ton of more problems. You all seem to ignore that every MMO that starts, starts rough, starts with bugs, and small patches that slowly get them in the right direction.
All of you who claim that they aren’t doing enough are just using a game that has had a decade of practice as an example. A game that still has a subscription, even after a decade.
Arena Net doesn’t make as much money as Blizzard does. They can’t afford teams of 100+ on every project, sorry.
Took them a year for solo arena , and they released it with matchmaking system that is totaly flawed.
you get matched with 5 people close to your ranking to fight either 5 stronger people or 5 weaker people ……… Does this look like a matchmaking system that makes balanced games ? Solo Queue was a fail since they didnt think twice of why folks wanted a solo Queue in the first place. ( syncing was possible , matchmaking didnt work , games that started with less then 10 people ).
Dont tell me no1 at Anet thought about these things while making the current system ? or what it would trigger in the pvp community ?
“Consider the consequences of what you add or change.” Should be first law when trying to balance a game.
Show me a post that has improved the community and has had a real result in change of anykind for spvp.
How about all the ones pushing for a dedicated solo queue? Many of them were well-reasoned and constructive—GW2 PvP has an emphasis on positioning so premades have a large advantage over pug, lack of meaningful leaderboard without solo/premade split, etc. A few of them became hateful or bitter, but most remained calm while making a good case for PvP dev priority.
Implementing a dedicated solo queue was a huge step in the right direction (I’m not afraid to be honest—yes, it should have been in at launch, but the game released a bit early for the PvP side). It was accomplished through reasonable people making reasonable posts about what would changes would be reasonable for the devs to focus on first. These days, it seems all we post is “re-design PvP from the ground up!” and “the devs hate my profession!” Both of those are unreasonable and unconstructive.
I play a lot of pvp games. And I can tell you this game has horrible rage on the forums due to the game not being near as polished or well handled as the other games I play.
Take smite, similar fantasy 3rd person pvp play style. was created in a fraction of the time. Is still in beta and has more game modes, larger pvp community (comparing to spvp community) and has more asked for pvp functions. And simply is funner. Go to their reddit forum and you’ll see people praising the hell out of the developers cause they constantly get ontop of crap and discuss with their community.
League of legends same deal. Went from never heard of tiny team and company to one of the top leaders in the Esport scene. Games funner to play better developed and developers constantly get on the forums and dicuss and debate pvp changes and updates with the community.
GW2 has only recently started to even acknowledge the fans. The things they added (spectator/matchmaking, examp) any game in development in the last 3 years already had pre-launch.
Like everyone says, the resources that could/should be used to expedite the spvp productivity and get it into a healthy state that would attract a player base…and make the CURRENT player base happy are not being used here, because the game is trying to split a team on 3 different game modes, SPVP being the least popular. Its ironicly least popular because its the least developed…but the team already has something working for them, so honestly does not care as much about spvp. Their pve/wvw is successful.
lets face it, anyone still playing spvp that is unhappy should stop supporting this game entirely theres far better games out there to be played. So if you want me to agree with you, then i’ll say …yes, stop bickering about this game..and while your at it, stop playing it entirely. Its free, you can come back in a year if they fixed things…though in all honesty I know 4 different titles with similar pvp that are FAR FAR advanced beyond this in development that will be launched long before this game ever reaches where they are already in beta. So, yea….learn to like pve/wvw or move on. Right there with ya OP.
You can’t compare PVP in an MMORPG to a solely-PVP game like Smite or League.
Period.
Are you really White Knighting sPvP on this forum. LOL.
A simple question to those who defend Anet, please name at least 10 things that working as INTENDED with no BUGS and FLAWS. The game has been out for more than 1 years plus so much time on Beta testing, if the Devs are working so hard, then I suppose it is not hard to answer my simple request. On the other hands, I can tell TONS of lame things that is working NOT INTENDED, BUGS AND MANY FLAWS.
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The funny thing is that… must of the changes brought by ArenaNet was, in fact, asked by the players base themselves.
Buff necro, too weak. Check
Buff ranger, too weak. Check
Buff warrior, too weak. Check
Nerf elem, too strong. Check
Nerf mesmer, too strong. Check
Engi are balanced. No gamebreaking change. Check
Buff Thief are weak. Check
Guardian are balanced. No gamebreaking change yet. Check
What is happening now? Nerf all those buffed classes listed above, and nerf all those nerfed classes listed above. Are you god kitten serious, tpvp community? Oh ya: Check.
More people were asking arenaNet to add solo queue instead of fixing the leaderboard/mmr. Check
(etc…)
I’m sorry guys, but it feels like arenaNet should simply stop listening to every single one of you.
Here a good suggestion for arenaNet. Make a blacklist. Time to blacklist every single one of you spamming the forum with melodramatic threads with lackluster, gamebreaking, risky suggestions praying that arenaNet will not read them.
I’ve had it.
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In 5 days it’ll be 13 months, THIRTEEN MONTHS. In 13 months all they’ve done is add hotjoin 2.0 (solo q) and and leaderboards that aren’t even in game rofl. I’m sorry but this is as pathetic as it gets even if your standards are extremely low. This would be acceptable if gw2 was just another korean f2p crappy mmo but its not, its a game that aims for esport LOLOLOL
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
In 5 days it’ll be 13 months, THIRTEEN MONTHS. In 13 months all they’ve done is add hotjoin 2.0 (solo q) and and leaderboards that aren’t even in game rofl. I’m sorry but this is as pathetic as it gets even if your standards are extremely low. This would be acceptable if gw2 was just another korean f2p crappy mmo but its not, its a game that aims for esport LOLOLOL
The good players have already left, the only ones left are trolls, whiners and little brats.
I should add to the list "people with troubles letting go that feel the need to comeback everyday to say the same "THIS GAME IS SO BAD LOL " everyday"
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Seriously.
How about, as a community, you come together with positive suggestions, critical feedback regarding what, specifically, is the issue with the meta at the moment, and what they can do to change it.
The constant bickering and crying and complaining by the players, those players who simply play the game instead of develop the game, needs to end, and although it won’t, you all should at least realize that what you’re doing is wrong and it isn’t helping.
Mostly, what I’m noticing is a bunch of keyboard warriors who don’t know the first thing about programming, those of you who don’t have a job developing a video game, complaining about the rate of changes that they are making.
You don’t know the first thing about developing a game. They are working hard. They play the game after work, too. They know what’s wrong with it. They know what they need to change, they hear you when you say you want X changed.
Lastly, there are several different teams in Anet regarding different kinds of content. PVP development team, Event development team… Just because a patch came out that you don’t like because it’s PVE doesn’t mean they just ignored you and stopped working on PVP. It just means that the PVE team hit their mark, while the PVP team is still working on changes.
They are working on game modes.
They are looking into the lag, which one of the forum mods said they would talk to the team on monday…. today.
They are working on more skills.
They are working on balance.
It took other MMO’s years to balance their game, and yet, no game is perfectly balanced. The meta will change every patch. There will always be a mass influx of one profession in PvP when it gets buffed. That’s the price you have to pay when you can go into Spvp starting from level 1.
You guys don’t know how to develop a game. Give constructive feedback, and chill the kitten out.
Well said.
Also on the balance front, this game is still more balanced than any other mmo I have played.
The feedback from the players on balance is good. From time to time different builds come up that are OP. The devs then look at the issue and adjust it. It seems to me that this feedback loop is working well, it is just that some players lose sight of the big picture or are under the assumption that the game well be totally “balanced” at some point. Its just not going to happen.
The game still has massive untapped potential, and I’m looking forward to how it evolves. Now that the devs have opened up to creating new game modes I expect a lot more content for spvpers.
In 5 days it’ll be 13 months, THIRTEEN MONTHS. In 13 months all they’ve done is add hotjoin 2.0 (solo q) and and leaderboards that aren’t even in game rofl. I’m sorry but this is as pathetic as it gets even if your standards are extremely low. This would be acceptable if gw2 was just another korean f2p crappy mmo but its not, its a game that aims for esport LOLOLOL
The good players have already left, the only ones left are trolls, whiners and little brats.
I should add to the list "people with troubles letting go that feel the need to comeback everyday to say the same "THIS GAME IS SO BAD LOL " everyday"
Just call them cretins.
You can’t compare PVP in an MMORPG to a solely-PVP game like Smite or League.
Period.
exactly. This game will never be a pvp game of the quality level that a game with an entire focused team on making it a success. It will always just be a gimmicky mode in a mmo that is more of a sidegame. If anyone is wanting a pvp game where the entire team is focused on making it good thus resulting in it being a successful pvp game. Then you are looking in the wrong place. Quit Gw2 and download said game.
The funny thing is that… must of the changes brought by ArenaNet was, in fact, asked by the players base themselves.
Buff necro, too weak. Check
Buff ranger, too weak. Check
Buff warrior, too weak. Check
Nerf elem, too strong. Check
Nerf mesmer, too strong. Check
Engi are balanced. No gamebreaking change. Check
Buff Thief are weak. Check
Guardian are balanced. No gamebreaking change yet. CheckWhat is happening now? Nerf all those buffed classes listed above, and nerf all those nerfed classes listed above. Are you god kitten serious, tpvp community? Oh ya: Check.
More people were asking arenaNet to add solo queue instead of fixing the leaderboard/mmr. Check
(etc…)
I’m sorry guys, but it feels like arenaNet should simply stop listening to every single one of you.
Here a good suggestion for arenaNet. Make a blacklist. Time to blacklist every single one of you spamming the forum with melodramatic threads with lackluster, gamebreaking, risky suggestions praying that arenaNet will not read them.
I’ve had it.
Yes and No
-Most people don’t want new condition: Torment add, more and more.
-Most Necro wanted buff on their offensive but their sustain: Fear last longer and Duhmfire is added.
-Most Ranger want to be played passively, rely on pet but do more things : Spirit Build is buff to OP and Devs refused to add more skills because they want noob-friendly.
-Most War don’t want a stupid 100% stun-lock Monster but Warrior want more sustain, easier way to disengage and stay in combat longer: Stun adds 1 extra second.
-Everyone want way back then to tone down Bunker Eles : Eles Dps build is being hit instead.
-Everyone want more Modes: New maps being made and broken.
-Everyone want leaderboard to be reset: No comment from Devs.
-Everyone want the fight does not start until it has 10 people: No comments
-Everyone want a game PvP oriented and Esport as PROMISED: No comments.
And many many mores….. So they SHOULD start to listen to our feedback.
Kaane Moka – Champion Magus. Loola Illuma – Champion Genius.
Proud player of : team [uA] – team [TGI]. Australia base, now recruiting.
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You can’t compare PVP in an MMORPG to a solely-PVP game like Smite or League.
Period.
exactly. This game will never be a pvp game of the quality level that a game with an entire focused team on making it a success. It will always just be a gimmicky mode in a mmo that is more of a sidegame. If anyone is wanting a pvp game where the entire team is focused on making it good thus resulting in it being a successful pvp game. Then you are looking in the wrong place. Quit Gw2 and download said game.
Maybe if we don’t get the promise GW2 is a PvP ORIENTED game and ESPORT, we maybe less kitten now.
Kaane Moka – Champion Magus. Loola Illuma – Champion Genius.
Proud player of : team [uA] – team [TGI]. Australia base, now recruiting.
Proud player of : team [uA] – team [TGI]. Australia base, now recruiting.
Wasn’t GW2 in development for 5 years? What happened during those 5 years if they weren’t building the game? How did it get to this point after 5 years of development?
I stopped reading the responses after I read the first few. So demoralizing how some people just don’t get it.
Be constructive as stated in the op, or there is no reason to be here. Thank you.
The funny thing is that… must of the changes brought by ArenaNet was, in fact, asked by the players base themselves.
Buff necro, too weak. Check
Buff ranger, too weak. Check
Buff warrior, too weak. Check
Nerf elem, too strong. Check
Nerf mesmer, too strong. Check
Engi are balanced. No gamebreaking change. Check
Buff Thief are weak. Check
Guardian are balanced. No gamebreaking change yet. CheckWhat is happening now? Nerf all those buffed classes listed above, and nerf all those nerfed classes listed above. Are you god kitten serious, tpvp community? Oh ya: Check.
More people were asking arenaNet to add solo queue instead of fixing the leaderboard/mmr. Check
(etc…)
I’m sorry guys, but it feels like arenaNet should simply stop listening to every single one of you.
Here a good suggestion for arenaNet. Make a blacklist. Time to blacklist every single one of you spamming the forum with melodramatic threads with lackluster, gamebreaking, risky suggestions praying that arenaNet will not read them.
I’ve had it.
Yes and No
-No one want new condition: Torment add, more and more.
-No Necro wanted buff on their offensive but their sustain: Fear last longer and Duhmfire is added.
-No Ranger want to be played passively, rely on pet but do more things : Spirit Build is buff to OP and Devs refused to add more skills because they want noob-friendly.
-No one want a stupid 100% stun-lock Monster but Warrior want more sustain, easier way to disengage and stay in combat longer: Stun adds 1 extra second.
-Everyone want way back then to tone down Bunker Eles : Eles Dps build is being hit instead.
-Everyone want more Modes: New maps being made and broken.
-Everyone want leaderboard to be reset: No comment from Devs.
-Everyone want the fight does not start until it has 10 people: No comments
-Everyone want a game PvP oriented and Esport as PROMISED: No comments.And many many mores….. So they SHOULD start to listen to our feedback.
I like how you (one single individual) can talk about “everyone”, “all necros” and “all rangers”. How can we doubt this guy?
k the specific issue:
1) They hyped PvP
2) They launched with their pvp missing necissary infastructure, unfun as gameplay, and full of terrible balancing.
3) They made the PvP team a skeletal crew on the argument that PvP evolves it’s own content.
4) They didnt reinforce their skeleton crew to get PvP the basics… like match making.
5 – 99999 ) They didn’t base gw2 PvP off GW1 PvP at all.
That would be a partial list of why gw2 pvp is so dissapointing people like me have more fun complaining on the forums than playing their game. Why continue telling them which parts of the game need changing when its obvious they lack the resources to impliment, and probably the wisdom to value any good advice they might receive.
No, it stands a far better use of time to simply ensure they know which things are broken and then let them devise their own solutions.
anyone remember paid tournaments? Hownthe forums told them over and over again that it wouldnt solve the problem, but anet blindly pushed ahead and actually wound up exasperbating the issue because farming randoms in unpaid earned tickets for paid, and the reward weight vs tickets earned ensured a permanent cycle?
Ya. Telling these devs what to do is a fools errand, they are too busy trying to prove theyre savants and no idea they dont have on their own is likely to be considered.
best we just tell them whats broken
You can’t compare PVP in an MMORPG to a solely-PVP game like Smite or League.
Period.
exactly. This game will never be a pvp game of the quality level that a game with an entire focused team on making it a success. It will always just be a gimmicky mode in a mmo that is more of a sidegame. If anyone is wanting a pvp game where the entire team is focused on making it good thus resulting in it being a successful pvp game. Then you are looking in the wrong place. Quit Gw2 and download said game.
On the other hand if you are looking for a fantasy mmo style pvp game then GW2 is the best on the market.
Smite is good, but its just not the same thing, it has no dodge mechanic, the “builds” are MOBA style, it also has balance issues, its has some good game modes but the normal MOBA lane-push is the only serious one.
You are very negative about it. What I see is that GW2 spvp has the closest gameplay (in terms of balance, fun, and level playing field) to a MOBA among all the mmos I have played.
You have the right to doubt me Ahuba. Tell me this, is there ever in the history there is a post that said Necro is too weak in Conditions and need buff? Or Ranger is so fun because it relies too much on AI to do things, let get more AI? We will talk afterward.
Kaane Moka – Champion Magus. Loola Illuma – Champion Genius.
Proud player of : team [uA] – team [TGI]. Australia base, now recruiting.
Proud player of : team [uA] – team [TGI]. Australia base, now recruiting.
You have the right to doubt me Ahuba. Tell me this, is there ever in the history there is a post that said Necro is too weak in Conditions and need buff? Or Ranger is so fun because it relies too much on AI to do things, let get more AI? We will talk afterward.
What, there were alot of necros telling that if engies have burning we should have it too. There were alot of threads about it. But whatever, you live in your own little world where only you are right, im not gonna bother anymore. Like 50% of what you say is complete nonsense and you act as if you are some kind of pvp wiseman. I dare people to go look your post history up and see how irrelevant what you say is lol
That is ok. The pot tell the kettle black. LoL. Oh well, we are doomed because Devs listen to those who want the class they play to be OP instead those who want true balance. No wonder we have a mess state at the moment.
Kaane Moka – Champion Magus. Loola Illuma – Champion Genius.
Proud player of : team [uA] – team [TGI]. Australia base, now recruiting.
Proud player of : team [uA] – team [TGI]. Australia base, now recruiting.
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