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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

SlayerSixx.5763

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/retiring-dominion

I get it. Some of you might not like league. Some of you are going to point out that league is not, in fact guild wars 2. That being said, give the article a quick read.

Now, I get that league has its own slew of problems that, for the most part, differ greatly from GW2’s, but I feel that if we draw a few parallels, we can find that GW2 needs a proper game mode and fast. People being matched with people far above their skill tier (or top tier players getting to enjoy hour long queues in the past) would be indicative of a dying game, but I won’t jump to conclusions. The new elites with incredible AoE potential of all kinds makes game modes like conquest incredibly frustrating and simply not to fun to play (or watch). If a game as large as league (being the single most played game in the world currently) is having issues with drawing a sizeable portion of their CURRENT players into an alternate game mode similar to our conquest, its only fair to assume that while people DO enjoy conquest, not enough players do.

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Posted by: Kycoo Grim.9463

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Part of the problem with Dominion (as a former LoL player) was that it was put in, than never balanced around. The entire time that it was in the game it was the neglected child that was laughed at and the few people that did play it slowly left because they were ignored. I actually worry more that Stronghold in GW2 will turn into that since the Meta is all based around Conquest.

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

Unlike conquest, almost Noone played dominions on lol. So you are is not only invalid, and very biased.

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Posted by: Vieux P.1238

Vieux P.1238

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

So are you insinuating that conquest don’t work?? 7+ millions people play thi game, and only the op and 10 others (less than 50 for sure) have complained about conquest. So, what are you getting at?

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Posted by: MasterD.4790

MasterD.4790

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

So are you insinuating that conquest don’t work?? 7+ millions people play thi game, and only the op and 10 others (less than 50 for sure) have complained about conquest. So, what are you getting at?

Conquest as a game mode sucks. Sure some people enjoy it. I still play PvP in this game because I enjoy the combat and fighting….I do not enjoy the conquest game mode. If they had a properly setup TDM in sPvP and (and not that court yard BS) it would be much more enjoyable.

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

So are you insinuating that conquest don’t work?? 7+ millions people play thi game, and only the op and 10 others (less than 50 for sure) have complained about conquest. So, what are you getting at?

Conquest as a game mode sucks. Sure some people enjoy it. I still play PvP in this game because I enjoy the combat and fighting….I do not enjoy the conquest game mode. If they had a properly setup TDM in sPvP and (and not that court yard BS) it would be much more enjoyable.

Have you tried stronghold?

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

SlayerSixx.5763

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

Exactly this.

People play conquest because its basically the only sPvP mode that partially makes sense. Stronghold is just terrible, at least in my opinion. A lot of the balance gripes that people have, a lot of the complaints of excessive aoes, complaints about necros, etc, wouldn’t apply or at least be taken as seriously if people were NOT forced to sit on a small node or lose the game. The meta over the past few years even enforces my belief. Bunkers and bruisers have dominated sPvP for the longest time. Now, people are complaining about necro and the like since one of necros biggest counters (mobility) doesn’t apply when you’re playing on that small circle. People want a game that rewards mechanical skill, but are OK with a game that punishes kiting and repositioning (foefire mid being the exception). I’m certain D/D cele ele wouldn’t have been gutted if people weren’t forced to stay on point or lose (you can see that ele is not that big of an issue in WvWvW). There’s a reason why ANet can’t buff or nerf in a timely (or sometimes effective) fashion and that is because, for the most part, the classes are (or were) relatively balanced.

Idk, the article just seemed to strike me as interesting.

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Posted by: Vieux P.1238

Vieux P.1238

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

So are you insinuating that conquest don’t work?? 7+ millions people play thi game, and only the op and 10 others (less than 50 for sure) have complained about conquest. So, what are you getting at?

+7million peeps playing Gw2? Oh my! this game is more popular then WoW.. the game is saved. (-Now whoes tha comedian?)

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

So are you insinuating that conquest don’t work?? 7+ millions people play thi game, and only the op and 10 others (less than 50 for sure) have complained about conquest. So, what are you getting at?

+7million peeps playing Gw2? Oh my! this game is more popular then WoW.. the game is saved. (-Now whoes tha comedian?)

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-journey-is-just-beginning/

Whoes da comeedian Noa? I know it hard not to jump on conclusion when you dont do your research.

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Posted by: Crinn.7864

Crinn.7864

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

So are you insinuating that conquest don’t work?? 7+ millions people play thi game, and only the op and 10 others (less than 50 for sure) have complained about conquest. So, what are you getting at?

+7million peeps playing Gw2? Oh my! this game is more popular then WoW.. the game is saved. (-Now whoes tha comedian?)

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-journey-is-just-beginning/

Whoes da comeedian Noa? I know it hard not to jump on conclusion when you dont do your research.

That’s accounts created, not the actual population of the game.

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

So are you insinuating that conquest don’t work?? 7+ millions people play thi game, and only the op and 10 others (less than 50 for sure) have complained about conquest. So, what are you getting at?

+7million peeps playing Gw2? Oh my! this game is more popular then WoW.. the game is saved. (-Now whoes tha comedian?)

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-journey-is-just-beginning/

Whoes da comeedian Noa? I know it hard not to jump on conclusion when you dont do your research.

That’s accounts created, not the actual population of the game.

Yeah but who is to say that 1 million+ folks left?? Correct me if I am wrong but doesn’t wow has like 3 million players?

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Posted by: Crinn.7864

Crinn.7864

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

So are you insinuating that conquest don’t work?? 7+ millions people play thi game, and only the op and 10 others (less than 50 for sure) have complained about conquest. So, what are you getting at?

+7million peeps playing Gw2? Oh my! this game is more popular then WoW.. the game is saved. (-Now whoes tha comedian?)

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-journey-is-just-beginning/

Whoes da comeedian Noa? I know it hard not to jump on conclusion when you dont do your research.

That’s accounts created, not the actual population of the game.

Yeah but who is to say that 1 million+ folks left?? Correct me if I am wrong but doesn’t wow has like 3 million players?

1million would put us ahead of SW:TOR which I find doubtful, WoW last I saw was still hovering around 5mil.

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Posted by: Vieux P.1238

Vieux P.1238

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

So are you insinuating that conquest don’t work?? 7+ millions people play thi game, and only the op and 10 others (less than 50 for sure) have complained about conquest. So, what are you getting at?

+7million peeps playing Gw2? Oh my! this game is more popular then WoW.. the game is saved. (-Now whoes tha comedian?)

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-journey-is-just-beginning/

Whoes da comeedian Noa? I know it hard not to jump on conclusion when you dont do your research.

Now that’s funny.. How cute, There’s still peeps that believe in tha hype. +7million..rolf.. Santa clause i believe in you to.

Fyi: you can post this + this link Cuz it must be true… Arenanet said so.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3v0x29/how_do_anet_expect_us_to_take_pvp_seriously_when/

Rolf!

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

So are you insinuating that conquest don’t work?? 7+ millions people play thi game, and only the op and 10 others (less than 50 for sure) have complained about conquest. So, what are you getting at?

+7million peeps playing Gw2? Oh my! this game is more popular then WoW.. the game is saved. (-Now whoes tha comedian?)

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-journey-is-just-beginning/

Whoes da comeedian Noa? I know it hard not to jump on conclusion when you dont do your research.

Now that’s funny.. How cute, There’s still peeps that believe in tha hype. +7million..rolf.. Santa clause i believe in you to.

Fyi: you can post this + this link Cuz it must be true… Arenanet said so.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3v0x29/how_do_anet_expect_us_to_take_pvp_seriously_when/

Rolf!

Well,I rather belive Anet than a random poster..

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Posted by: Vieux P.1238

Vieux P.1238

Not random, if you took time to to read rediit, you would of noticed that the OP is Colin from anet.. Dha!!!….you all sheeps.

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

Not random, if you took time to to read rediit, you would of noticed that the OP is Colin from anet.. Dha!!!….you all sheeps.

Well, not only am I at work, but if op means original poster, and the dude who posted the thread is _Ev4l and Colin only replied to clarify/ emphasize a point?? How did you make that corrolation? ? I am confused , or maybe I am not sheep after all.

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Posted by: Vieux P.1238

Vieux P.1238

True.. he did reply to a post. I give you that. But my original point still stands cuz Colin did make a statement that there was 400k twitch viewers during the event witch is fluff hype as we all know it. Well the none sheep followers i mean. & now you gonna have me believe that there’s actually 7million players playing Gw2 atm? Cuz that’s what being hyped in BOLD letters & point of your statement. If you cant figure out the coloration between does 2 points (HYPE) then your ….@.. as well as a sheep.

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

True.. he did reply to a post. I give you that. But my original point still stands cuz Colin did make a statement that there was 400k twitch viewers during the event witch is fluff hype as we all know it. Well the none sheep followers i mean. & now you gonna have me believe that there’s actually 7million players playing Gw2 atm? Cuz that’s what being hyped in BOLD letters & point of your statement. If you cant figure out the coloration between does 2 points (HYPE) then your ….@.. as well as a sheep.

Lmao dude you are all over the place, you keep on jumping onto conclusions without analyzing your statements. Time to take a break dude lmao. And my point still stands.

My point is there is nothing out there which proves that 1 million or 500 folks left the game. So we can pretty much jump around the issue but as long as 7 millions account were created and nothing/no data shows that 1 million folks left the game. Then why not believe that 7 millions people play the game?? It’s pretty much subjective at this point.

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Posted by: Vieux P.1238

Vieux P.1238

Oh plzz. you need to reflect back on your first statement & analyse your own. Cuz between your first point about the 7 million Gw2 players & then jumping on WoW stating as a question about having 3 million players? Your kinda confuse & of all over the place! *Rolling my eyes!

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

Oh plzz. you need to reflect back on your first statement & analyse your own. Cuz between your first point about the 7 million Gw2 players & then jumping on WoW stating as a question about having 3 million players? Your kinda confuse & of all over the place! *Rolling my eyes!

Lol and where did I change my stance ?

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Posted by: rchu.8945

rchu.8945

I guess the point that op’s is trying to make is that if a game mode dont work, dont be afraid to pull it out. Spending money to fix something that’s never gonna work is just wasteful.

So are you insinuating that conquest don’t work?? 7+ millions people play thi game, and only the op and 10 others (less than 50 for sure) have complained about conquest. So, what are you getting at?

+7million peeps playing Gw2? Oh my! this game is more popular then WoW.. the game is saved. (-Now whoes tha comedian?)

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-journey-is-just-beginning/

Whoes da comeedian Noa? I know it hard not to jump on conclusion when you dont do your research.

Now that’s funny.. How cute, There’s still peeps that believe in tha hype. +7million..rolf.. Santa clause i believe in you to.

Fyi: you can post this + this link Cuz it must be true… Arenanet said so.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3v0x29/how_do_anet_expect_us_to_take_pvp_seriously_when/

Rolf!

Well,I rather belive Anet than a random poster..

AND that’s the problem with this game, because gamer like you.

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Posted by: Vieux P.1238

Vieux P.1238

You stated
Fivedawgs.4267 : 7+ millions people play thi game,

Then Crinn.7864 responded:That’s accounts created, not the actual population of the game.

You changed your stance by not only responding YEAH to Crinn.7864 point, you also changed your toon as well as adding to it. DHA!

Fivedawgs.4267 :Yeah but who is to say that 1 million+ folks left?? Correct me if I am wrong but doesn’t wow has like 3 million players?

What am i not suppose to get from that?