Guild Wars 2

The current gameplay mode of simply holding capture points is getting stale. We really need something more objective based, similar to GW1 GvG. I’m not saying that capture points lacks strategy, but it’s very limited and I’m finding myself becoming bored very quickly. And what I mean by this is simply not wanting to play sPvP at all… Fighting for capture nodes does not feel like high end PvP.

If we can’t have GvG, a good start would be to have a sPvP game mode with no capture points, or maybe just a single node. But to be honest, as a GW1 vet, I would really love to see GvG appear in the game.

Did you really expect a game named Guild Wars would have anything to make guilds compete with each other in a way? hahha you naive!

But wait for first expansion, BUY it, then you can probably rent a guild hall with time token (gems!) to play GvG, probably.

Does GW2 have PVP? i still didn’t find it.. or sec.. is that map HOtM only a free passage to LA?

Sorry Anet little joke from a player who expected a lot from game and can’t find fun moment in game. Now I’m only checking for updates for PVP and nothing so far only PVE PVE PVE .. WvW, PVE, PVE and more PVE…. boring… lets play another game to the day when somthing BIG comes out for PVP to that day GW2 is dead game for me.

I’m not convinced that sPvP in GW2 will be good anytime soon.

First of all we’d need gamemodes other than the boring roam & bunker PvP that we have now. I dont think this will happen in the near future because Arenanet insists on their stupid gamemode someone decided to be “fun”.

They (well i guess most of the PvP crew from GW1 could have already left) created 2 really unique gamemodes (GvG & HA) and what are they coming up with in GW2?
Some random cap battles which unifies the worst of GW1 PvP (Hero battles just with players instead of heroes now).

There’s a reason why no top tier GW1 guild is seriously playing sPvP, because it’s just so much worse than GW1 PvP.

So don’t get your hopes up. As a die hard GW1 PvP fan I’ve just decided to switch to PvE and other serious (!!) PvP games like Dota2 or Stacraft.

just to be clear, they don’t have gvg or ha or even regular death-match style combat for the simple reason the combat system is bad for it. in order to have gvg or anything else you need the combat system to function well in sustained team fights — and we all know how that doesn’t really work. which is why we have only conquest which is the only game mode in the universe that tries its hardest to split a team up and discourage groups of people fighting for long.

so, when will we get gvg?
not for a long while (if ever).

It’s in WvW.

/15chars

GvG should not be structured pvp.

Should have the stats as WvWvW does.

Daecollo.9578:

GvG should not be structured pvp.

Should have the stats as WvWvW does.

what…

I just have no idea why this is in the structured pvp section, GvG shouldn’t be like SPvP.

well since you have no idea, let me help you out:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_versus_Guild

milo.6942:

well since you have no idea, let me help you out:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_versus_Guild

Sorry but this is not GW1.

It says it has NPCs, so it should be with PvE gear.

you’re right, it’s game for casuals
and your comment about npcs means nothing

Daecollo.9578:

milo.6942:

well since you have no idea, let me help you out:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_versus_Guild

Sorry but this is not GW1.

It says it has NPCs, so it should be with PvE gear.

Ladies and gentleman, for your consideration:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Forest_of_Niflhel
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legacy_of_the_Foefire

Might as well scrap those maps then.

Paradoxine.8192:

Daecollo.9578:

milo.6942:

well since you have no idea, let me help you out:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_versus_Guild

Sorry but this is not GW1.

It says it has NPCs, so it should be with PvE gear.

Ladies and gentleman, for your consideration:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Forest_of_Niflhel
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legacy_of_the_Foefire

Might as well scrap those maps then.

Those NPCs don’t even fight.

Up izzys bum is where its at

Daecollo.9578:

Paradoxine.8192:

Daecollo.9578:

milo.6942:

well since you have no idea, let me help you out:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_versus_Guild

Sorry but this is not GW1.

It says it has NPCs, so it should be with PvE gear.

Ladies and gentleman, for your consideration:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Forest_of_Niflhel
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legacy_of_the_Foefire

Might as well scrap those maps then.

Those NPCs don’t even fight.

You don’t know what you’re talking about do you?

GvG is spvp and not wvwvw because: Guild Wars. Lore.

devs said if u want gvg go back to gw1.

Juan Ignacio.8903:

devs said if u want gvg go back to gw1.

Source?

in an old sotg trust me they did say it lol

Juan Ignacio.8903:

in an old sotg trust me they did say it lol

If that is exactly what they said and you aren’t paraphrasing then that is a slap in the face to anyone who enjoyed GvG in GW1. An insult to be frank. I doubt they’d go as far as to insult their old players, so that’s why I want a source.

nop i remember that in an sotg they said “we see guild wars 2 more as a team game than a guild game blablablaba” but i also remember than in other 1 they say there will be no gvg becouse it doesnt work so if u want gvg u have gw1 for that.
u say its an insult ? what u expect of these devs that they have lol as the greatest game ever.

You know what’s amusing. Back when Guildwars 2 was in development, I believed wholeheartedly in the prospects of a good GW1 sequel. People kept saying, “Oh, look at what they’ve done, the pvp will be bad.” And I kept asserting that no, it will be good, it is Anet after all! Then I would write massive walls of text explaining how it might be possible, given certain mechanics, to make a good team oriented objective based combat.

Then one day, I found a video (which i searched high and low for, can’t find it) where an Anet dev essentially said (something along the lines of), “GW1 pvp was far too complex and hard for anyone to understand. blahblahblah” and essentially bashed all my years of playing their game. At that moment, it occurred to me that Arena Net never understood their own game and near all hope was lost.

Therefore, I descended into insanity as I wrote more and more pleading for some form of fair conversation from the Anet devs.

They continue to disappoint.

(For the record, I agree completely that GW1 was complex, but when the devs state they don’t understand their own game, it is evident to me they don’t truly understand WHY it was complex and how to fix it.)

Just to promote GW1 some more, here’s a neat compilation of recent gvg matches (well, the kills :P):

(choose 720p and maximize for max fun)

nice vid & nice music karla

nice vid & kittenty music karla

GvG and HA was beauty of Guildwars but the most i miss emotes (/fame /rank) tiger pheonix and a Golden Dragon there was actually some ppl that achieved rank 15