ANet, please explain MM formula

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Posted by: winterchillz.2564

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Hi there,

Not trying to flame, not trying to bash or anything, all I want is a simple explanation why MM seems to favor one team above the other, as well as why ludicrous parties are allowed to freely queue up for Ranked MM.

On the following couple of screen shots that are attached to this message, I’ve tried to capture examples where one team either gets utterly stomped or a ridiculous party MMR is in place. I’m not trying to find an excuse of my losses, I know I’m far from a good player, but I’m trying to become one and I’m trying hard to earn what I want, I continuously want to try and improve and when I make a costly mistake in-game I try to acknowledge it.

Wise person once told me “Don’t think of ranks and divisions, play for the fun of it”, I’ve tried to follow that advice but there’s no fun when you get a team of people who seem to be clueless of the encounters and what to do in general. Of course, I don’t try to judge – in some of my games I’ve been carried too, my team stomped hard as well, but this in no way would make me claim that MM is good, no team should get utterly stomped into the ground, regardless of whether I win or lose.

On Screenshot 1 – disregarding the fact that I was with a friend and we had another party of two against 4man stack, I’m rather more concerned why the other party was 2 guardians, with what would seem identical builds who just kept running mid trying to recapture it, only proceeding to die over and over again. How does a person who is in Diamond (assuming they perfectly well know what they are doing) would completely refuse to get some condi cleanse even though I exclusively mentioned it before the start of the game?

On Screenshot 2 – My only question is why is an Amber player in such a presumably high MMR party? I know they teamed up, I see that, but I don’t think that’s an excuse to allow people from all divisions to queue up and freely get matched with other people. I’m fine with people playing together, it’s a game and it’s for fun, but sometimes nonsense like this ruins the fun for the rest of the players.

On Screenshot 3 – This would be an example where one of the teams should presumably dominate the other one, or at least have a close game. However, as you can see, the result is way off any balance. So, are we too good for Ruby or the enemy team is too bad for Diamond? Or it’s neither of those but just players who were unlucky enough to be badly teamed up?

On Screenshot 4 – This is a follow-up to Screenshot 3 – one of the people in my team seemed completely clueless as where to go and what to do. I noticed that they multiple times ran to far into a 1v2 situation only to die and feed the enemy points. Another thing that happened not once but twice in that game is that the same person tried to kill their beast, the latter being at 100% hp, while two of the enemy players were obviously approaching from the point, of course proceeding to lose both the beast and their life.

I try to enjoy PvP and stay calm even in situations like those, I know I often get carried by my team myself, but when you get this happening in multiple games in a row, you start to wonder why does one of the teams always, or at least in most cases, seem to be much better than the other one?

Sorry for the wall of text, but I needed to vent this out and hopefully find some kind of an explanation beyond “omfg noob” that would actually make sense.

Thanks.

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Posted by: Mr Godlike.6098

Mr Godlike.6098

The 2 things that your screenshots lacks are team compositions and individual score.

Most builds are better in some teams and horrible with other ones. Example Bow DH and Condi Necro can’t do their job if there is no support around like ele, DH bunker or engi. Rev is weak against condi dealers like Mesmer. You might simply lose because somebody didn’t check enemy team and change to do something that could work well in that particular match.

We also can’t see how many points had your teammates. Some matches should be won but somebody didn’t do they role like thief who don’t roam and +1 on time. Ele fights away from team fights so no aoe heal for team OR FIGHTS ON ENEMY NODE WITH THIER ELE 1v1.

Most people here blame mmr and mm but fail to look ahead before match, check enemy team, change build little or change class to fit better and know what their role is and what is not.

I hope this little info will help. Sorry for horrible English.

Was depressed ele…now depressed druid
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Posted by: Kylden Ar.3724

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We’ve created a new matchmaker for Season 3 that will strike a balance between the two previous seasons, accomplishing the same goals of accuracy from Season 2 but doing so with the evenness of matches that players experienced in Season 1.

They clearly failed. Miserably.

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Posted by: DeathJester.3845

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Assuming that your a solo players your just getting screwed over filling holes for groups,
First one – At least Diamond Sapphire and Emerald
(In which case they should be going against Diamond – friends should be dragged up to highest level? but that doesn’t seem to be happening.)
2nd someones boosting a Amber.
3rd and 4th could be matches depending on your tiers but assume that there are certain group blocks – (Diamonds grouping together – Sapphire with 2 or 3 rubies).