Guild Wars 2

dimyzuka.7051:

Tyler Chapman.1832:

Mesmers are getting some nice stuff.

Stay tuned.

Last time you said this we waited 3 months and got a buff to 2 mantras which haven’t seen the light of day.

I’ll see it when i believe it.

yeah mantras is not what we need. we need non ai builds. give mes non ai aoe and a way to trait for non ai dmg. illusions and shatters are nice and everything, but it shouldnt be the only way to deal dmg.mantras are simply not working well in this game. having to recharge a skill over and over is stressful and not really optimal in a situtation where thieves gank u und there is aoe and condis everywhere. plus the cc spam and interrupt spams are making it nearly impossible to use mantras effecitvely. so change or remove and replace them.

Tyler Chapman.1832:

Mesmers are getting some nice stuff.

Stay tuned.

I bet you say that to every profession! ;P

Tyler Chapman.1832:

Mesmers are getting some nice stuff.

Stay tuned.

This is not the right way imho, adding stuff and nerfing at the same time risk to generate “new monsters”. We saw this with necro and warrior, and before that we had a super god ele for months and an incredible strong mesmer for months.

Tyler Chapman.1832:

Mesmers are getting some nice stuff.

Stay tuned.

oh ok, ok, ok
thats why one of the best teams in eu is allrdy running a mesmer.
and this team is carryed hard by the mesmer and thief combo, gg
and the mes dps is a pain, rly funny to get aoe shatter out of stealth.

i hope nice stuff means, buff mes to totaly op, its allrdy fun to fight a thief mes combo with all the time stealth, port, invulnerably and also ai spam on point.
mes is in rly good space atm, but ok.

just asking, have you start doing allrdy something for ranger profession, because i see much time ppls create the same topics like this for rangers and theres just zero answer from devs in the past.

im so sure the march meta will include ele and mes in teams.
the two professions most ppls wirte they are sooo weak, but they are not.

Mesmers > Thieves 1v1

If you are losing to thieves 1v1 on a mesmer than you need to reevaluate your gameplay

Azukas.1426:

Mesmers > Thieves 1v1

If you are losing to thieves 1v1 on a mesmer than you need to reevaluate your gameplay

and you should start playing this game thx
trust me when i say thief > mesmer
my experience > yours

Oidmetala.8426:

Tyler Chapman.1832:

Mesmers are getting some nice stuff.

Stay tuned.

oh ok, ok, ok
thats why one of the best teams in eu is allrdy running a mesmer.
and this team is carryed hard by the mesmer and thief combo, gg
and the mes dps is a pain, rly funny to get aoe shatter out of stealth.

i hope nice stuff means, buff mes to totaly op, its allrdy fun to fight a thief mes combo with all the time stealth, port, invulnerably and also ai spam on point.
mes is in rly good space atm, but ok.

just asking, have you start doing allrdy something for ranger profession, because i see much time ppls create the same topics like this for rangers and theres just zero answer from devs in the past.

im so sure the march meta will include ele and mes in teams.
the two professions most ppls wirte they are sooo weak, but they are not.

have you ever played mesmer in the high end area?

Sensotix.4106:

Oidmetala.8426:

Tyler Chapman.1832:

Mesmers are getting some nice stuff.

Stay tuned.

oh ok, ok, ok
thats why one of the best teams in eu is allrdy running a mesmer.
and this team is carryed hard by the mesmer and thief combo, gg
and the mes dps is a pain, rly funny to get aoe shatter out of stealth.

i hope nice stuff means, buff mes to totaly op, its allrdy fun to fight a thief mes combo with all the time stealth, port, invulnerably and also ai spam on point.
mes is in rly good space atm, but ok.

just asking, have you start doing allrdy something for ranger profession, because i see much time ppls create the same topics like this for rangers and theres just zero answer from devs in the past.

im so sure the march meta will include ele and mes in teams.
the two professions most ppls wirte they are sooo weak, but they are not.

have you ever played mesmer in the high end area?

Do you even need to ask? xD

do i need to play every profession in high end area before i can write what i think about it?

im not bad on my two main professions, should be enough.
but for sure i played all professions allrdy and i know the skills.

at least i think its enough to see what a main mesmer player can do in high end pvp.
just watch the esl games and you can always see the team with a mesmer and they dont lose because mesmer is to weak…
its more like mesmer and thief together are the reason why they win.

Oidmetala.8426:

do i need to play every profession in high end area before i can write what i think about it?

Well… yes, at least one profession anyway. Or else everything you say is simply a L2P issue…

Reikou.7068:

Oidmetala.8426:

do i need to play every profession in high end area before i can write what i think about it?

Well… yes, at least one profession anyway. Or else everything you say is simply a L2P issue…

what? :P
i know no single good player, maining all professions.
if you do that you are not rly strong on any one, just my mind about that

most of the top mesmers rerolled…don’t you think there is a reason
and cm wins most matchups vs shad

most of good players allrdy left the hole game, not only mesmers…
i also know much good rangers left, much eles left, much thiefs left, much engis left and much guardians left

but well this game is not worth to care to much, just look next patch and lets play the meta like always.
same procedure as every (3) month.

i just posted my mind about state of mesmer.

(last fight both teams was rly even.
the win for cm was rly close.)

Warlord of Chaos.7845:

If thieves and warriors could not train mesmers into obvilion, mesmers could be in a much better place. Until then, Idk when we will be better.

As a full time mesmer I agree that Warriors and Thief fair the best against me, that is to say I may lose a fight that I felt like I was the more skilled player but their abilities happen to counter mine out. That being said EVERY class has one or two others that match up well against them. Just the way it is, and I like it that way. Why is it bothersum for mesmers? Cause a LOT of people play warrior and thief so it may seem like you get shafted a lot.

Tyler Chapman.1832:

Mesmers are getting some nice stuff.

Stay tuned.

Please specifiy this more:

Is this stuff coming in 2015 or 2016?

And is it actually “nice stuff” or this the same kind of “nice stuff” you implemented the last patches which either was useless or kittened up the game?

biggest joke development i’ve ever seen . . . you have totally no idea what’s going on in PvP. Better leave the drowning ship before it’s too late.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

biggest joke development i’ve ever seen . . . you have totally no idea what’s going on in PvP. Better leave the drowning ship before it’s too late.

Drowning ship?

ANet would never admit that.
They’d rather pretend, it’s a submarine!

EverythingEnds.4261:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

biggest joke development i’ve ever seen . . . you have totally no idea what’s going on in PvP. Better leave the drowning ship before it’s too late.

Drowning ship?

ANet would never admit that.
They’d rather pretend, it’s a submarine!

This is pretty good lol.

Sensotix.4106:

Azukas.1426:

Mesmers > Thieves 1v1

If you are losing to thieves 1v1 on a mesmer than you need to reevaluate your gameplay

and you should start playing this game thx
trust me when i say thief > mesmer
my experience > yours

Obviously not since Mesmers > Thief in a 1v1

Azukas.1426:

Sensotix.4106:

Azukas.1426:

Mesmers > Thieves 1v1

If you are losing to thieves 1v1 on a mesmer than you need to reevaluate your gameplay

and you should start playing this game thx
trust me when i say thief > mesmer
my experience > yours

Obviously not since Mesmers > Thief in a 1v1

wow you know nothing

Mesmer player: “Thief Season!”
Thief player: “Mesmer Season!”

Mesmer player: “Thief Season!”
Thief player: “Mesmer Season!”

Mesmer player: “Mesmer Season!”
Thief player: “Thief Season! Nerf!”
Devs: “Ok” (buffs Warrior)

Oh good, one of the few threads that gets dev attention about pvp balance and here people are arguing over who is/isn’t a scrub [quite ironic since I’ve been personally yelled at in PM twice after beating Sensotix but hey].

Maybe instead of ‘you know nothing’ and ‘X > X’ garbage, you could post reasoning, suggestions and evidence that might actually help the Mesmer class, rather than turn the tiny dev spotlight into a cry fest

azuzephyr.7280:

Oh good, one of the few threads that gets dev attention about pvp balance and here people are arguing over who is/isn’t a scrub [quite ironic since I’ve been personally yelled at in PM twice after beating Sensotix but hey].

Maybe instead of ‘you know nothing’ and ‘X > X’ garbage, you could post reasoning, suggestions and evidence that might actually help the Mesmer class, rather than turn the tiny dev spotlight into a cry fest

hey scrub, if 1v1 means anything I guess we wont see so many top tier mesmer player quite their favorite profession. Have you ever been beaten? Well, please don’t answer this question, because we all know the answer, and I am just afraid you might be one of those that makes the bar even lower.
So, Do we need to post reason here? pretending as if it was the day 1 and we just realized there is problem with mesmer in spvp? Real mesmers like sensotix and other people including me are here just for answers. It has nothing to do with where you stand in leaderboard, or how many big name players you have personally beaten in game.
Today, mesmers deserve an answer that has been denied for too long. Our plea are well within reason, we didn’t ask for anything but a real feasible solution to our problem.

What I’d like is for there to be a net to catch mesmers if Lyssa gets changed in a way that loses the condi cleanse. Also our heal needs a look at I think, add a condi remove that doesnt require traiting there – every class in the meta is either a warrior (who have a heal which acts as a condi buffer and have the best controllable removal and an immunity to them anyway) or has a heal that deals with condis in some way (yes im definitely including the immob removal from thieves). Other classes get a 2 for 1 when they perform healing mesmer dont have that luxuary. (If we take the trait we lose shatters removing boons – kinda nullifying what we do better than other classes)

And I’m not sure what else to add because I dont want to make a monster. Oh I’d like thief sbow to get annihilated, or maybe split the evade arrow into 2 skills (1 cripples 2nd evades) so they cant get evade frames with no opening while moving away.

Mainly I’d rather have anet balance the other classes down than bump mesmers up too much. Maybe a wee trait rejiggle though.

I’d love to know exactly what qualifies you as a real Mesmer and not me.

azuzephyr.7280:

I’d love to know exactly what qualifies you as a real Mesmer and not me.

experience…5k tourny games on mesmer in team q
playing competetively in the top 50 since the leaderboards came out?

And I have played against you/experienced the rage and still see no reason why this thread turned into backhanded kittening when mesmers severely need help.

All that experience I’d expect more from you tbh but somehow remain unshocked at how you act when posting given how you act in game when you lose. You don’t speak for everyone, far from it

azuzephyr.7280:

And I have played against you/experienced the rage and still see no reason why this thread turned into backhanded kittening when mesmers severely need help.

All that experience I’d expect more from you tbh but somehow remain unshocked at how you act when posting given how you act in game when you lose. You don’t speak for everyone, far from it

ofc there is rage..look at the balance and look at how much they care about our feedback…i started nicely and with objective feedback but now i am just annoyed about newbies coming to the forums saying stuff like mesmer wins vs thief easily in duels and stuff and then the developers even listen to those