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CLASSES IN THIS BUILD GUIDE: MESMER, MESMER 2, GUARDIAN, NECROMANCER, RANGER

Hello guys, my name is Adrian, i am a good pvp player, but you wont find my name in spvp leaderboards since i never bother to make a team to raise ranks. Regardless of leaderboards i decided to make several useful builds from all the classes i use to pvp.

i have seen several builds, but none are really very effective, if anything they are a cheap knock-off of mine. My goal is to help you, and increase you’re possibility of winning a fight and hence help you have more fun in pvp. These are, in my opinion, the best possible builds for these classes.

now let’s begin….

1. “Illusionist Mesmer” Build:

(Greatsword and Sword/Pistol)

COMBAT
now for this build the strategy mainly revolves around always maintaining no less than 3 Illusions in the battlefield. A very effective approach (the one i usually take), is you start with sword/pistol, activate the phantasm from your pistol and the clone skill from your sword (dont use the sword clone to teleport at the beginning), then quickly daze your enemy with pistol, dodge to create 1 more clone and change to your greatsword (this must all be done within an average time of 5seconds). when you change to greatsword you use the phantasm from greatsword and the number 2 skillbar, afterwards you continue to attack and thats when u can become creative.

When the enemy becomes a bit dangerously close, thats when you use your clone teleport skill (it will have recharged by then), then use your sword’s number 2 skillbar move, you can also use the stealth skill to the right side of HP to maintain anonymity. YOUR ROLLING/DODGES CREATE CLONES, plus you also have the number 8 skillbar which creates 2 clones.

VS A THIEF
you may think its a disadvantage, but no, i find killing thieves easy unless i am not paying attention to them (AKA im killing other people and not focused on thief). Here is the main strategy….they mainly have 2 stealths, one is a short one that can easily be countered by creating clones and dodging, or using number 5 greatsword skillbar, then theres the refuge skill which makes them stay in the stealth circle until its done, this can easily be countered by a sword by slashing randomly within that circle, also by number 5 greatsword skillbar move and number 2 sword skillbar. Eventually you will see how easy killing a thief is.

SKILLS

Number 6: Ether Feast
Number 7: Mimic
Number 8: Mirror Images
Number 9: Decoy
Number 0: Time Warp

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TRAITS

Domination(20): III, V
Dueling(20): II, X
Inspiration(25): VI, V
Illusions(5): nothing

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+30% Phantasm damage

Main Conditions (most effective boons are bold): Vulnerability, Bleeding from clone crits, cripple from attacks and from enemies killing your clones.

Main Boons: Phantasms have fury, vigor, regeneration from phantasms, speed boost per active illusion, illusion skill recharge faster.

TRINKETS
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3 Sigils of accuracy = crit chance
2 Runes of lyssa/nightmare/lich = condition duration
Amulet of berserker = damage/crit/crit damage

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2. Mesmer Shatter Build:

COMBAT

(Staff and Sword/Pistol)

The main focus is to shatter clones on the enemy and only do close combat with sword/pistol with the combo i will describe below, then quickly going back into long range combat with shattering.
You mainly start off with a staff, with that staff you quickly press the number 2 skillbar move and the number 8 skillbar move at the same time, then shatter them, within that second cast the numbers 3, 4 and 5 (5 is an AOE targeting move, so aim it). Do not switch to gun/pistol yet, make sure to create more clones and keep distance from enemy and keep attacking, if needed use stealth and rolls/dodges. once u switch to gun/pistol you use the number 3 sword skillbar move which sends a clone to your enemy, then press it again wen the clone get to the enemy and teleport to them, quickly activate the number 2 skillbar move and shatter all your clone with F1 during that exact time, then dodge-roll away and daze with pistol and cast the pistol phantasm and switch back to staff and attack with combos.

VS A THIEF

Pretty much the same thing as with the Illusionist mesmer, except that you use the number 5 Staff skillbar to replace the greatsword’s number 5 skillbar and the tricks with the sword/pistol remain the same.

SKILLS

Number 6: Ether Feast
Number 7: Blink
Number 8: Mirror Images
Number 9: Decoy
Number 0: Time Warp

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TRAITS

Domination(20): V, I
Dueling(25): II, X
Illusions(25): III, I

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Good offensive Damage with high Crit and Crit damage.
Main Shatter Boons: Might, Vigor.
Main Shatter Conditions: Bleeds on Criticals from illusions, Confusion, more damage percent.
Mind Wrack: damage increase and crit perfect increase
Killing illusions make enemies Crippled and confused.
Phantasms have Fury.

TRINKETS

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4 Runes of eagle.
3 Runes of Divinity (1 goes for underwater mask).
Berserker Amulet.
3 Sigils of accuracy.

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3. “Holy Guardian” Build: (I AM CURRENTLY WORKING ON A DIFFERENT BUILD, I THOUGHT I STRUCK GOLD WITH THIS THE OTHER DAY, BUT IT HAS FLAWS, SO I WILL GET BACK TO U ON IT LATER :d)

COMBAT

(Greatsword and Mace/Shield)

Ok, your guardian has little HP, but a good amount of def, plus a surprisingly strong enough offense to deal sufficient damage. The holy guardian’s BEST attribute is its heals, AKA why its called “holy” guardian. Each and every heal raises your HP significantly and your dodge/rolls heal for over 1k HP each roll/dodge. You’re biggest focus is in close combat, VS a distance-type player you use your greatsword to rush to them with your number 3 skill and bind them with your number 5 skill. Anyways, here is the main game starter, you start with you greatsword and use you number 3 skillbar move, within that second activate your number 4 symbol move and number 5 move (you can press the number 5 skill moves to drag the enemy to you and drop them), if the enemy starts moving, drop them with the number 5 skill move and activate you number 2 greatsword mvoe and stay on them (you can move with the number 2 greatsword skill), then switch to hammer and use the hammer symbol skill and the number skill, you can start attacking with hammer and your hammer skills heal you. THE TRICK WHEN USING A HOLY GUARDIAN is to know how to use your F1, F2, and F3 skills and know how to manage swapping weapons regularly during combat. when you have your greatsword equipped, you have less heal and do more damage, but when you have you mace/shield you have more heals and less damage, so you have to know how to swap between both during combat. if necessary you use your shield moves to push away enemies and you get healed periodically at the same time…..most of all the skillbars you have heal you constantly when used. The other nice thing is your 6-0 skillbars, the number 7 skill creates a small shield that heals you and prevent enemies from attacking you, but you can attack enemies, and the number 8 skill turns all the Conditions you are suffering from into boons. You’re actual number 6 heal skill is OP (overpowered), it will heal you completely and its usually not even necessary during a fight since you are constantly being healed, its passive effect removes conditions and the other signet improves heals.

SKILLS

Number 6: Signet of Resolve
Number 7: Sanctuary
Number 8: Contemplation of Purity
Number 9: Signet of Mercy
Number 0: Tome of Courage

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TRAITS

Zeal(30): IV, III, XII
Honor(20): III, X
Virtues(20): II, X

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Like i said in combat description, everything is focused on heals and high defense with significantly high enough offense.

TRINKETS

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3 Runes of water/monk = focused on heals and boon duration.
3 Sigils of Superior force = focused on dealing higher damage (all other sigils are useless for this build).
Cleric’s Amulet.

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4. “Blood lord (or Vampire) Necromancer” build

(Staff and Scepter/Dagger)

COMBAT

As a Blood lord necromancer you will only use your staff for one thing and one thing only; setting up marks. After you’re marks are set up you will switch to scepter/dagger, but during combat remember to be flexible especially in a 1vs1, you might have to start with a scepter/dagger and then dodge away and set up marks with a staff (or you might not be able to witch to staff at all, but that’s ok). With this build you’re biggest focus is bleeds, on average during spvp you will inflict 12-15 (can raise with ease) stacks of bleeding per fight, then as backup you have strong defense plus 20k HP. the combat stay with this necro is quite simple, attack and use conditions on your foe while applying boons to yourself, movement-wise, it may vary, but mainly you focus on a stationary battle, if you have you’re marks set up (marks must always be set up in you’re area) and using aiming to cast AOE spells on your enemy, dodging/rolling creates a mark that causes bleeding.

SKILLS

Number 6 Skillbar: Well of Blood
Number 7: Well of Suffering
Number 8: Well of Darkness
Number 9: Signet of Spite
Number 0: Lich Form

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TRAITS

Curses (30): IV, II, XI
Deathmagic (20): II, IV
Bloodmagic (20): III, VIII

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45-65% increase in Bleeding duration + 20%. With scepter + 33% more bleeding duration increase.

All you’re wells grant you protection which is -33% incoming damage.
You also inflict Blindness with the number 8 and 9 skillbars.
Number 9 skillbar inflicts a lot of conditions, one which is bleeding (stacks a lot when you start attacking with scepter).
Dodging creates a mark that causes bleeding.
Critical attacks have a 66% to cause bleeding (you’re crit chance is 49% which is good enough).
Death Shroud Grants….Fury, Casts Enfeebling Blood ( causes bleeding).
2% increase in damage per condition (just a nice bonus).
Marks are unblockable and larger.
Wells recharge 20% faster (wells are prosauce).

TRINKETS

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2 Runes of Krait/Afflicted/Centaur = Bleed duration
3 Sigils of agony = Bleed duration
Rabid Amulet

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5. Ranger “Sniper” Build

(Shortbow and Longbow)

COMBAT

Well with this build, i promise you, you will hit harrrrddddd! Regardless of you’re high damage you are squishy (AKA low defense), so you’re biggest focus is to keep you’re enemy slowed while you do high damage to them from a distance. Even if the enemy is rather close, you can easily slow them and gain some distance rather fast. You’re pet does a lot of damage and slows down you’re enemy. Both you and you’re pet have high damage plus high crit chance and crit damage.

During a fight you will mainly start with you’re longbow. You will start with the longbow, then you will activate the F2 skill with you’re pet wolve while at the same time gaining distance from you’r target enemy, use the number number 5 longbow skill to cripple enemy and within that second use the number 4 (if you havent already) longbow skill to launch you’re enemy backwards, follow it up within that second with number 3 and then at the end number 2 skillbar move. Once the number 2 longbow skill move is finished quickly switch to the shortbow and quickly apply the skill numbers 2, 4, and 5 within a very short time, then activate the number 3 shortbow skill which pushes you away from enemy and grants you swiftness, also remember to switch pets if you’re pet dies (both you’re pets apply chill which slows the enemy). All the 6-0 skillbars are backup during battle, the traps slow the enemies and the elite skill gives you a significant boost, then you’re heal skill, heals you and you’re pet.

SKILLS

Number 6 skillbar: Heal as One
Number 7 Skillbar: Frost Trap
Number 8 Skillbar: Spike Trap
Number 9 Skillbar: Signet of the Hunt
Number 0 Skillbar: Rampage as One

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TRAITS

Marksmanship (20): III, X
Skirmishing (20): I, V
Beastmastery (30): V, I, IX

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60% Duration Increase for Chill.
Grant Might to you’re pet when you Crit.
Conditions Inflicted by you’re pet increase (chill).
Increased Longbow range.
Cause Vulnerability.
Swapping Weapons: Grants swiftness and Fury.
Pets do 30% more damage when they Crit.
Swapping Pets: Grants Quickness and Pet swapping recharges 20% faster.
Pet Skill: F2 Recharges faster, all pet skill Recharge 10% faster, F2 for canines causes cripple (wolf is a canine).

TRINKETS

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2 Runes of Svanir/Sanctuary/Ice = Chill Duration increase (frozen)
2 Sigils of Superior Ice = 30% to cast chill when you Crit an enemy
Berserker’s Amulet

PETS

(Owl and Alpine Wolf)

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i hope u all can benefit from this, i put all day today into this lol…..ENJOY AND HAVE FUN!

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Looks cool, but you might be better off if you used hyperlinks instead for all of the builds; the current format is just a bit clunky and awkward, to be honest.

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Looks cool, but you might be better off if you used hyperlinks instead for all of the builds; the current format is just a bit clunky and awkward, to be honest.

o thats fine, i linked pictures to the traits, skills, and trinkets…plus other stuff on the thread. all u really gotta do is click the picture if you dont wana kno the details from me.

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Looks cool, but you might be better off if you used hyperlinks instead for all of the builds; the current format is just a bit clunky and awkward, to be honest.

o thats fine, i linked pictures to the traits, skills, and trinkets…plus other stuff on the thread. all u really gotta do is click the picture if you dont wana kno the details from me.

No, I’m not sure you understood what I was getting at. The problem is that I look at this post and all I see is a wall of text that I can’t focus on for more than five seconds.

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Looks cool, but you might be better off if you used hyperlinks instead for all of the builds; the current format is just a bit clunky and awkward, to be honest.

o thats fine, i linked pictures to the traits, skills, and trinkets…plus other stuff on the thread. all u really gotta do is click the picture if you dont wana kno the details from me.

No, I’m not sure you understood what I was getting at. The problem is that I look at this post and all I see is a wall of text that I can’t focus on for more than five seconds.

o, i see lol. there is not much i can do about that XD

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You can always attach hyperlinks.

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Not trying to be a troll here or anything, but those builds aren’t very good.

Phatasm. Disechanter is miles worse then both null field and arcane thievery.

You don’t take illusionary persona in your shatter mesmer build either.

Your guardian build seems quite off too, especially if he’s trying to bunker mid. But i don’t play one of those often so i won’t critique that much.

Your necro build is terrible. Sig of spite is un-usuable. Traits are off by a ways too. Trying to do to many things at once.

Ranger build is prolly the worst of all. Longbow+shortbow is a terrible combo in pvp, they lack synergy, and leave you nearly defenseless when focused.

Apart from the builds being weak stand alone, they offer no team synergy, which kinda defeats the purpose of making a team composition.

But i do applaud the attempt, and encourage you to try again when your more familiar with the classes.

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Quick update on the situation…..all the builds are very good, except the guardian’s, it’s a pretty good build, but i saw a few flaws….after several tests (in pvp he is good, but depends on situations)….so PLZ disregard the guardian build i am currently reverting back to an old build and trying to make it as OP as possible.

and replace the illusionist mesmer’s number 6 skill with mimic.

thank you.

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Not trying to be a troll here or anything, but those builds aren’t very good.

Phatasm. Disechanter is miles worse then both null field and arcane thievery.

You don’t take illusionary persona in your shatter mesmer build either.

Your guardian build seems quite off too, especially if he’s trying to bunker mid. But i don’t play one of those often so i won’t critique that much.

Your necro build is terrible. Sig of spite is un-usuable. Traits are off by a ways too. Trying to do to many things at once.

Ranger build is prolly the worst of all. Longbow+shortbow is a terrible combo in pvp, they lack synergy, and leave you nearly defenseless when focused.

Apart from the builds being weak stand alone, they offer no team synergy, which kinda defeats the purpose of making a team composition.

But i do applaud the attempt, and encourage you to try again when your more familiar with the classes.

yea the disenchanter skill is a mb, i already fixed it in-game and took a pic i just gotta update it in thread. as for the rest of the illusionist build, it would destroy u with ease. i replaced the disenchanter with mimic.

yes i do take illusionary persona into my shatter build, it destroys my enemies and there is np with the shatter build. my shatter build is the best possible shatter build.

my guardian build is the only one i dont like, i am fixing it atm.

my necro build sits on every1 i fight and i stack easily 15+ bleeds and i dont die.

my ranger build is based off of me wanting to use a short and longbow and it is the best possible build for using those weapons, no other build would surpass it if they use a short and a long bow (they can rival it though….maybe).

but heyyyyy dont mind me, make a build urself, i doubt it will be any better than mine. ty for ur feedback i hope u liked my reply.

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But i do applaud the attempt, and encourage you to try again when your more familiar with the classes.

o and i do accept 1vs1 challenges, just dont expect me to let you choose wat class i use, but i will use an exact build from my guide to challenge you. like i said, ik i sit on every1 i fight, feel free to challenge me.

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TRAITS
Domination(20): V, I
Dueling(25): II, X
Illusions(25): III, I

Dunno how you take persona without 30. maybe it was just a typo. And im not trying to start a fight in game or otherwise. Just trying to give some tips. If you really want to 1v1 that’s fine i suppose although that really doesn’t prove much of anything.

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I’m only going to comment on the Guardian build, I know you’ve said it’s inferior to another build you have but you also said the build is very good. I would like to challenge that claim as I can see how this build would be extremely weak in both tpvp and hotjoin.

Obvious things you need to know:

  • Dodge rolls heal for ~half of your healing power not 1.5x (in pve it’s ~1x)
  • Your hp and armour are too low so you can be busted easily, you don’t have Renewed Focus or Shelter to deal with it either.
  • your damage is low and your secondary heals are low
  • The Zeal tree has no good traits above 10, except when spec’ing for spirit weapons and has no good GM traits.

Your Runes do not synergise well with eachother and they seem to go completley against the style of play you’re trying with the build.
Mercy isn’t useful because of its crazy recharge and they nerfed the stun break with 4s recharge it used to give. Sanctuary with ground target is much stronger than Signet of Mercy for resing allies. That being said you didn’t put any traits into strengthening your Sanctuary so its long CD and short duration with no ground target make it almost useless.
Contemplation is your only condition removal apart from the Resolve passive (technically you should be running shelter anyway so it ends up being your only condition removal) and you haven’t spec’d it either, sometimes it’s a good addition to Pure of Voice and Virtue of Resolve condition removals but you haven’t got them either.

Any decent player would be able to defeat this build and if you really want to 1v1 me with it go ahead.
I don’t want to dishearten you but you need a lot more practice =(

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Illusions(25): III, I

No reason to leave out one of the best shatter traits aka illusionary persona..

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Posted by: Psybunny.8906

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Have to be honest, these are kinda bad builds. For comparison here are some things I’ve used in tournas, they’ve worked for me and maybe you’ll get some ideas on how to improve your builds. This thread opens up a good discussion in build variety.

Shatter mesmer: http://tiny.cc/nlrcww
Bunker guardian: http://tiny.cc/4prcww
Roamer thief: http://tiny.cc/b3rcww
Terror necro: http://tiny.cc/m7rcww
Bunker ranger: http://tiny.cc/9gscww
Roamer warrior: http://tiny.cc/rkscww (outdated, but this is what I used to play, looking forward to patchnotes/new build options)

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I’m only going to comment on the Guardian build, I know you’ve said it’s inferior to another build you have but you also said the build is very good. I would like to challenge that claim as I can see how this build would be extremely weak in both tpvp and hotjoin.

Obvious things you need to know:

  • Dodge rolls heal for ~half of your healing power not 1.5x (in pve it’s ~1x)
  • Your hp and armour are too low so you can be busted easily, you don’t have Renewed Focus or Shelter to deal with it either.
  • your damage is low and your secondary heals are low
  • The Zeal tree has no good traits above 10, except when spec’ing for spirit weapons and has no good GM traits.

Your Runes do not synergise well with eachother and they seem to go completley against the style of play you’re trying with the build.
Mercy isn’t useful because of its crazy recharge and they nerfed the stun break with 4s recharge it used to give. Sanctuary with ground target is much stronger than Signet of Mercy for resing allies. That being said you didn’t put any traits into strengthening your Sanctuary so its long CD and short duration with no ground target make it almost useless.
Contemplation is your only condition removal apart from the Resolve passive (technically you should be running shelter anyway so it ends up being your only condition removal) and you haven’t spec’d it either, sometimes it’s a good addition to Pure of Voice and Virtue of Resolve condition removals but you haven’t got them either.

Any decent player would be able to defeat this build and if you really want to 1v1 me with it go ahead.
I don’t want to dishearten you but you need a lot more practice =(

no no, i said my builds r very good and will get u a lot of kills, but i said my guard build is pre good, but has too many flaws and u only win depending on a good situation, AKA its jsut a support class at best :< i dont like my guard build at all its floaws after experimenting with 2vs1 1vs1 3vs1, lol ik all its fauls, its not good, so im trying to make a new one. lol comment is right up there somewhere if u wana see. sorry about the guard build, i was very disapointed with it, i thought i ran into smetin similar to wat u guys might call a “monk” build from gw1, but it was a fail, too much of a support and not veryu effective in damage, BUT maybe if i make it a healing condition build, MAYBE….lol idk the guard’s best build thus far is an offensive condition build with crit and high power, with a greatsword and scepter/shield ORRRR a a different one i am experimenting with. idk ima keep testing cause the offensive build (not this one posted) is good, but its soooo simple :<.

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TRAITS
Domination(20): V, I
Dueling(25): II, X
Illusions(25): III, I

Dunno how you take persona without 30. maybe it was just a typo. And im not trying to start a fight in game or otherwise. Just trying to give some tips. If you really want to 1v1 that’s fine i suppose although that really doesn’t prove much of anything.

i take it sometimes, and sometimes i dont. personally i dont find persona all that useful for mt shatter build, i do have as a result a fourth shatter in my combo, but thats not my gameplan, it all depends on ur style, it is good though, i just dont ever find it necessary.

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Have to be honest, these are kinda bad builds. For comparison here are some things I’ve used in tournas, they’ve worked for me and maybe you’ll get some ideas on how to improve your builds. This thread opens up a good discussion in build variety.

Shatter mesmer: http://tiny.cc/nlrcww
Bunker guardian: http://tiny.cc/4prcww
Roamer thief: http://tiny.cc/b3rcww
Terror necro: http://tiny.cc/m7rcww
Bunker ranger: http://tiny.cc/9gscww
Roamer warrior: http://tiny.cc/rkscww (outdated, but this is what I used to play, looking forward to patchnotes/new build options)

nice nice, you’re builds look good, i just dont like them. maybe in a strategic team battle they r very useful, lol i can make a good team-based build, but my builds r like a lonewolf type of build, i destroy people with it and meh, i dont find persona all that useful, yes i have an extra shatter BUT, i like wat i replaced it with better, it works for my style of gameplay. about ur necro build, i like soulmarks as for everything else, its either the same i got and for the ones i read that werent like mine, i didnt like it, that prot from wells is guud i would never take that out..

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

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[snip]
VS A THIEF
[snip]….they mainly have 2 stealths, one is a short one that can easily be countered by creating clones and dodging, or using number 5 greatsword skillbar, then theres the refuge skill which makes them stay in the stealth circle until its done, this can easily be countered by a sword by slashing randomly within that circle, also by number 5 greatsword skillbar move and number 2 sword skillbar.

what???

You do know that thiefs have a lot more than just 2 stealths right? You also know that the number of stealths they have varies greatly depending on build, right?

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Jax.5261

I’m only going to comment on the Guardian build, I know you’ve said it’s inferior to another build you have but you also said the build is very good. I would like to challenge that claim as I can see how this build would be extremely weak in both tpvp and hotjoin.

Obvious things you need to know:

  • Dodge rolls heal for ~half of your healing power not 1.5x (in pve it’s ~1x)
  • Your hp and armour are too low so you can be busted easily, you don’t have Renewed Focus or Shelter to deal with it either.
  • your damage is low and your secondary heals are low
  • The Zeal tree has no good traits above 10, except when spec’ing for spirit weapons and has no good GM traits.

Your Runes do not synergise well with eachother and they seem to go completley against the style of play you’re trying with the build.
Mercy isn’t useful because of its crazy recharge and they nerfed the stun break with 4s recharge it used to give. Sanctuary with ground target is much stronger than Signet of Mercy for resing allies. That being said you didn’t put any traits into strengthening your Sanctuary so its long CD and short duration with no ground target make it almost useless.
Contemplation is your only condition removal apart from the Resolve passive (technically you should be running shelter anyway so it ends up being your only condition removal) and you haven’t spec’d it either, sometimes it’s a good addition to Pure of Voice and Virtue of Resolve condition removals but you haven’t got them either.

Any decent player would be able to defeat this build and if you really want to 1v1 me with it go ahead.
I don’t want to dishearten you but you need a lot more practice =(

no no, i said my builds r very good and will get u a lot of kills, but i said my guard build is pre good, but has too many flaws and u only win depending on a good situation, AKA its jsut a support class at best :< i dont like my guard build at all its floaws after experimenting with 2vs1 1vs1 3vs1, lol ik all its fauls, its not good, so im trying to make a new one. lol comment is right up there somewhere if u wana see. sorry about the guard build, i was very disapointed with it, i thought i ran into smetin similar to wat u guys might call a “monk” build from gw1, but it was a fail, too much of a support and not veryu effective in damage, BUT maybe if i make it a healing condition build, MAYBE….lol idk the guard’s best build thus far is an offensive condition build with crit and high power, with a greatsword and scepter/shield ORRRR a a different one i am experimenting with. idk ima keep testing cause the offensive build (not this one posted) is good, but its soooo simple :<.

Im starting to think you’re trolling now.

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Posted by: Adry.7512

Adry.7512

Im starting to think you’re trolling now.

lol my personality is naturally trolly. anyways, ya i see wat u mean and the guard build is bad, i really dont like it and liek i said i am goin to make a new one. anyways, the other builds work perfectly for me and it gets a lot of kills, i dont struggle ever even with my ranger, as for my necro lol its pre OP. regardless, i sugggest and even encourage you yo to make a guide of your own, please. this game lacks guides and stuff, so you would do some good by making a guide. as for any1 else who may comment on my build being bad, then they have never tried it, unless they talkin about the guard build. works great for me and i take any challenges to prove it. anyways all of you should try and make a guide for those who dont kno how to pvp, have fun.

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Adry.7512

oops….for the illusionist mesmer build i meant to put VI and V for insperation….so many typos -.-

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Posted by: Jax.5261

Jax.5261

Im starting to think you’re trolling now.

lol my personality is naturally trolly. anyways, ya i see wat u mean and the guard build is bad, i really dont like it and liek i said i am goin to make a new one. anyways, the other builds work perfectly for me and it gets a lot of kills, i dont struggle ever even with my ranger, as for my necro lol its pre OP. regardless, i sugggest and even encourage you yo to make a guide of your own, please. this game lacks guides and stuff, so you would do some good by making a guide. as for any1 else who may comment on my build being bad, then they have never tried it, unless they talkin about the guard build. works great for me and i take any challenges to prove it. anyways all of you should try and make a guide for those who dont kno how to pvp, have fun.

I do have several guides of my own…
And I’ve tried similar things and that’s why I can make small assumptions without trying your build specifically. Sometimes I don’t always see how somebody’s build works exactly and try it for myself, in this case I really don’t need to.
As I said I will definitely 1v1 your Guard build if you like.

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Adry.7512

Im starting to think you’re trolling now.

lol my personality is naturally trolly. anyways, ya i see wat u mean and the guard build is bad, i really dont like it and liek i said i am goin to make a new one. anyways, the other builds work perfectly for me and it gets a lot of kills, i dont struggle ever even with my ranger, as for my necro lol its pre OP. regardless, i sugggest and even encourage you yo to make a guide of your own, please. this game lacks guides and stuff, so you would do some good by making a guide. as for any1 else who may comment on my build being bad, then they have never tried it, unless they talkin about the guard build. works great for me and i take any challenges to prove it. anyways all of you should try and make a guide for those who dont kno how to pvp, have fun.

I do have several guides of my own…
And I’ve tried similar things and that’s why I can make small assumptions without trying your build specifically. Sometimes I don’t always see how somebody’s build works exactly and try it for myself, in this case I really don’t need to.
As I said I will definitely 1v1 your Guard build if you like.

LMAO! can u end ur fixation about my guardian already? wat part of that build is bad and its a mistake did u not comprehend hahahahaha. anyways u r allowed to vs my mesmers or my necro….my names are Vicious Calibre, Serpent Queen…..and i forgot my necro’s name, but yea i wont vs u with a messed up build that i clarified is bad, i will sit u on throughout 10rounds with either one of my mesmers or necro. anyways just whisper me n stuff wen u see me online

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Jax.5261

Im starting to think you’re trolling now.

lol my personality is naturally trolly. anyways, ya i see wat u mean and the guard build is bad, i really dont like it and liek i said i am goin to make a new one. anyways, the other builds work perfectly for me and it gets a lot of kills, i dont struggle ever even with my ranger, as for my necro lol its pre OP. regardless, i sugggest and even encourage you yo to make a guide of your own, please. this game lacks guides and stuff, so you would do some good by making a guide. as for any1 else who may comment on my build being bad, then they have never tried it, unless they talkin about the guard build. works great for me and i take any challenges to prove it. anyways all of you should try and make a guide for those who dont kno how to pvp, have fun.

I do have several guides of my own…
And I’ve tried similar things and that’s why I can make small assumptions without trying your build specifically. Sometimes I don’t always see how somebody’s build works exactly and try it for myself, in this case I really don’t need to.
As I said I will definitely 1v1 your Guard build if you like.

LMAO! can u end ur fixation about my guardian already? wat part of that build is bad and its a mistake did u not comprehend hahahahaha. anyways u r allowed to vs my mesmers or my necro….my names are Vicious Calibre, Serpent Queen…..and i forgot my necro’s name, but yea i wont vs u with a messed up build that i clarified is bad, i will sit u on throughout 10rounds with either one of my mesmers or necro. anyways just whisper me n stuff wen u see me online

Sigh, you aren’t even reading what I’m typing.