Guild Wars 2

So i am one of those players that basically solo q most of my matches with some duo q matches mixed in. I would love to have a full soloq pvp league and a separate team q pvp league but i understand that ANET doesnt want to do that due to increased Q times.

Currently they have said a full 5 Man premade will never face a full 5 solo q team but we all know that’s a worthless piece of coding since they can meet a 2,1,1,1 team and stomp them or as is more common , teams form a 4 man premade and avoid that issue entirely.

My suggestion

5 Man premade can only face teams with (3,2 team), 4 or 5 man premade teams
4 Man premade can only face teams with 3, 4 or 5 man premade teams
3 Man premade can only face teams with 2, 3, 4 or 5 man (only if the trio is paired witha duo) premade teams
2 Man premade can only face teams with 2 and 3 man premade teams or full solo teams
Full solo teams can only face teams with 2 man premade teams or full solo teams

Some examples to illustrate below

A 5 man premade can meet a 4,1, 3,2 or a full 5 man team.

A 4,1 team can meet another 4,1 or a 3,2 or a 3,1,1 or a 5 man team.

A 3,1,1 team can meet another 3,1,1 team or a 3,2 or a 2,1,1,1 or a 2,2,1 or a 4,1 team

A 3,2 team can face another 3,2 team, 3,1,1 team, 2,2,1 team or 4,1 team or 5 man team.

A 2,1,1,1 team can meet a 2,2,1 team and another 2,1,1,1 team or a 3,1,1 team or a 1,1,1,1,1 team

A full solo team 1,1,1,1,1 can only meet another full solo or a 2,1,1,1 team, NOT a 2,2,1 team.

Hopefully i didnt miss any obvious examples.

I think this will help increase the enjoyment for soloq players while not requiring the splitting of queues. Of course this means q times will go up from where they are but frankly from the posts im seeing Solo players or even duo players are not too happy and this method should make for closer matches.

This will prevent guild teams or premade 4 man teams abusing the matchmaking to farm solo pug teams.

Its not as comlicated as it looks and the Matchmaker can easily handle this. It woud require analysis and modeling to see the effect on Q times but i feel it would make a for better matches.

Id be fine with it. People would just find another reason to complain though. The current system is fine too I solo all the time I really don’t feel like facing premades too much is a real problem to me. Its a semi- imaginary (it happens but not nearly as often as people think) problem for the bads to grouse about like MMR hell. Im 5-20 in my last 25 games because of premades! That sort of thing.

could be fine but still i am worried about queue time.

I think it’s a reasonable suggestion. It seems like it could be implemented. However, I also find that there are fewer extreme matches, like 5 v 2,1,1,1 or 4,1 v full solo, than the forums would have you believe. That said, those matches for me have usually been blowouts, unless it’s the noob guild team that plays worse than a full solo.

Rigante.2470:

Id be fine with it. People would just find another reason to complain though. The current system is fine too I solo all the time I really don’t feel like facing premades too much is a real problem to me. Its a semi- imaginary (it happens but not nearly as often as people think) problem for the bads to grouse about like MMR hell. Im 5-20 in my last 25 games because of premades! That sort of thing.

I’m not a bad player Rigante. I resent you calling me that. I am stuck in very real mmr hell.

I am not a bad player Rigante. I don’t like it that u insult me.

How nice for u that u have high mmr (for w/e reason) and that solo q is fine for u. Solo q is not fine for ppl w/ low mmr.

I am not a bad player Rigante. I don’t need to get good. I need anet to step up to the plate and fix its game.

This is why I love gw1 pvp so much(well 1 of the many reasons) You don’t have pvp game modes where premades face non premades, the original anet knew that would be very bad because of how unfair it is, ofc the premade is gonna win most of the time unless they are just completely new or sumthin( most people would know that not sure why current anet doesn’t.. or maybe they do and just don’t care) It’s full premade teams vs full premade teams or all solo players vs all solo players there. Also we have many different pvp areas and modes in gw1 with unlimited build choices for each profession. I just wish people would go back and make that place active again, you won’t ever find another pvp game as fun and makes as much sense and as diverse as that 1 ever.

It would be nice if someone from ANET could get some stats to see how this suggestion would affect q times. Of course they would increase but by how much and is it enough to make it worthwhile?