At this point in last season, I couldn’t make progress in ruby+ while soloq, I was always stuck with a 45-50% win rate. The only way I could progress was to queue as a group of 2-5. Also, I would have a positive win ratio in a group even if some of the players in my premade were below my own skill level.
This season has been the exact opposite for me. I have around a 70%+ win ratio while soloq. Meanwhile when I queue as a premade, the matches are noticeably harder and I can only make progress if everyone in the group is at the same level. I can’t play ranked with anyone significantly below my level without losing more matches than I win (which is the opposite of last season). I would actually like to know how premade matchworking works this season, since it’s obviously been changed.
I’ve got a screenshot of yesterday’s match history. These matches were all soloq, I also never had a complete blowout and we even had a 500-500 win. I find it hard to believe that people are getting most of their games as blowout matches in soloq, I usually only get blowouts if premades are involved (often it’s actually a blowout in favor of the soloq’ers in this case).
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I think it really depends on what type of player you are.
If you are a good player but don’t play enough to be already in legendary, you’ll now have a way better time progressing than in last season.
My personal problem in legendary:
In legendary, there is no pip cut-off, therefore you are playing with and against everyone who has already progressed to legendary BUT the teams are still matched in regards of their MMR.
Every single time, a team is favored. It might be my team or the opponents team. (Ofc they also might be rather close, and the difference might not be relevant.) And sadly, you can feel the difference way too often, or in other words, there are again way too many one-sided matches.
EU – Multiple times #1 SoloQ pre Dec 2014 (pure MMR based ladder)
Primoridal (S1) & Exalted (S2) & Illustrious (S3) Legend
Depending on time of day, I had similar experiences on my legendary account, though not quite so consistent. My low(er) mmr account has only reached diamond t1 today, so I cant really compare it to situation in ruby.
In ruby/diamond I had quite a lot of blowouts on my legendary account while winstreaking my way through those divisions. Whereas my mainaccount only has a handful of blowouts (most of those a victory btw) and a lot of 400+ defeats.
Now here’s the thing though… my non-hot account has a lot of close wins, and nearly no blowouts.
I think blowouts happen, if either the teamcomp just makes you wanna afk (3 thieves etc) or the mmr difference is way too big …. or there’s really only five bad players on that team and nobody can carry.
Maybe cause last season was more competitive? On this one progression is pretty much garantee depending on which side of the MMR you end up on. High vs Low or low vs high or 5 vs 5. Trust me, we will get more legendary this season than we had in S1. Higher MMR = progression in S2.
Last season players could get legendary by fighting amber-level players the entire journey, because matchmaking always tried to favor an “even” matchup. So if you were bad, you fought only bad players and made the same progress as legendary players consistently fighting ESL opponents.
It goes without saying that this season is better for all involved. Bad players will disagree as they obviously don’t enjoy finding out how bad they actually are. Those players should be directed to unranked if they don’t enjoy being rated on a ladder.
I didnt think it was possible, but actually, players got so bad in ruby that I think, before season is over… quite a lot will be able to grind their way into legendary simply due to all those even worse that are pushing into ruby now.
Of course your not the only one. The unhappy people are going to post. The happy people, for the most part, are not going to post. I probably split my time 50/50 between small groups and solo and I like season 2 better overall for both. I was able to rank up faster and I feel like the general quality of my teammates has been better although obviously there is a limit based on whats in the queue at any given time I still get plenty of knobs but overall I feel the quality of team mate when I solo is higher then season 1.
Of course your not the only one. Its always the people that cry that post. The happier people are not going to post how much they like it for the most part.
well i did post that i was happy to finally reach ruby division XD
I recently started trying to finish my achievements, so I had to run something other than thief. I got this far with thief (tier 3 ruby), but I still need 3 wins with necro and 2 with ele before I can go back to thief only.
I also found that changing professions led me to having less balanced matches. Like the system didn’t know how to measure my changed skill. Most of my games as thief ended very close. Not sure, if that is due to the nature of thief, (being so mobile helps with bad games, to keep score closer) or due to me playing better with thief.
Either way, having better matches this season, although I think I enjoyed last season a little more. (Funny enough) I miss tanky amulets a bit. (hambow, best meta)
There is some thing wierd that happened to me several times. I would go on a win streak in diamond, reach a certain tier like t3,4,5. Then lose 1 close game. Then it seems like the MMR expected me to win that game and it punish me for losing a game I should have won by giving completly clueless teammates for the next 10 games until I lose most of my pips.
Makes no sense. And even if I reach a place where I " belong " then I’m supposed to have at least a 50% win rate. But it dosent happen. I reach a certain tier with a win streak then lose 10 in a row lol.
Most of these loses are also from having an inferior temp comp. Opposite team always has an ele, I dont. When there is a DC it’s always on my team , thieves and warriors are always on my team aswell.
I’m thinking of Qing with some one who is legend for better matches .
You’re not alone! I find this season overall much better. My only concern is that the early periods of players climbing the ladder results in too many losing streaks for the lower rated players. So many losses in a row is discouraging and could result in people just not playing at all. If they have a soft mmr reset (like only demoting down 2 divisions at the start of a new season), it would be a drastic improvement.
Besides that, this season has improved in every way over the last.
Ya, the season start was shameful. Worst release of a pvp season ever. The games kept getting more and more competitive as I moved up the divisions. Ruby has actually been a more variable environment, but I’m hoping diamond will be back to being a bit more balanced, since you can’t easily get there with willpower alone. (Ruby you can get into if you just play enough, although I’m proud of the number of games I played to get into Ruby)
I definitely like this season better. I breezed through the early games partly because less wins were needed and partly because I only lost maybe 3 legitimate (non-DC teammate) games up until I was halfway through ruby. However, when I hit the end of Ruby, I started getting some really intense, close games.
The reason I prefer this is because it’s taken me a lot less games to get to around the ranks where I should be having difficulty. I was a diamond last season and while I’m not sure if I’ll progress through diamond this season, I at least have enough time to try.
Overall, I’m happy with the matchmaking, even though I think that the class balance still needs work (but again, it’s better than S1 bunker rezzmer hell).
