Guild Wars 2

Hey everyone!
I was very disappointed when I saw the changes made to stronghold.
After the last and first public beta, players were eager to play and were hyped to leave a huge chunk of good feedback.
This thread provided a lot of thoughtful suggestions, and adressed problems/frustrations that a lot of people experienced.
Even I tried my best to explain flawed scenarios and leave feedback:

“When killing an enemy player or even wiping the whole team, it didn’t really affect the match. It didn’t create an opening for the team to make a strong push or even make a strong comeback.
Imagine being pushed all the way back to the lord. The enemy team pushes with all 5 players. Somehow you manage to wipe them all, and rally to their gates for a nice comeback. The intensity would rise, but then you notice that you can’t even make it through the map before the enemy team has all respawned.”

None of these changes were even adressed in the slightest, such changes include:

• No reward for killing players, too short respawn times.
• Matches ending prematurely due to short time limit
• Archers being weak, useless and easily distracted
• Simply doing a PvE-race (lordrush) seemed to be the most viable strategy

A beta shouldn’t simply be a demo to try a rather finished product, and that is what I feel Stronghold is. This second beta won’t bring any new useful feedback for the developers, since none of the previous issues were adressed. Players will once again come up with the same feedback, which means we’re not getting any nearer the goal of a fun and competitve gamemode.

In my opinion this is really disappointing. I thought these tests were used to gather feedback, and actually react/respond to it?
It seems like it’s just a bad way of trying to hype the upcoming expansion.
If you ship the gamemode like this, I can almost guarantee that it won’t be a success. There are too many obvious flaws within its design.

Listen to your playerbase. In the end you are creating the game for them. This is a business, and we’re your customers. We really want to help you and provide feedback, but when it’s obvious you do not listen, our support will quickly fade.

I think it’s safe to assume it won’t get its own queue at this point. When Anet has set their mind on something, they’re too stubborn and proud to change it.

I’d like to know that I’m not alone with this thought!

Yepp, I was very disappointed by that too….. I mean, at least on the Archers (and Guards) being too weak, the whole community seemed to fully agree.

I heard no1 being outraged about too few crates for LoS-ing or disapointed by the Lord not cheering though.

And yes; if they leave the game-mode like this, I would be hugely disappointed and I probably wouldn’t buy the expansion.

I think you are wrong about time. If it would go on for too long,then you’d be reading posts here,how this game mode is too long. And can you imagine,if game ends up 4vs5 or something and people being stuck in game for 20min+ ? Formus would crash from all the rage.
As it is now,it’s fast paced and I like this. There’s always something to do. And I think its fair (as fair as it can be),that if you wipe whole team or you get wiped,that it’s not insta over for one team. (depending,where fight took place and so on). NPC themselves should be as they are now. Make them too strong and again people will rage,how a NPC is too strong.

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Empty Sky.6354:

I think you are wrong about time. If it would go on for too long,then you’d be reading posts here,how this game mode is too long. And can you imagine,if game ends up 4vs5 or something and people being stuck in game for 20min+ ? Formus would crash from all the rage.
As it is now,it’s fast paced and I like this. There’s always something to do. And I think its fair (as fair as it can be),that if you wipe whole team or you get wiped,that it’s not insta over for one team. (depending,where fight took place and so on). NPC themselves should be as they are now. Make them too strong and again people will rage,how a NPC is too strong.

There are various opinions on that subject, and while I potentially had a lot of fights this beta that ended way too soon, that might not be the case for everyone.
However, I’m not discussing specific suggestions in this thread.